[WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Steve Barnes
I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is 
Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  I got an ATA 
to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and My home 
exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the office 
exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything more that 
can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can’t get 
the port to go I will have very few takers.

What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint with the FCC?

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/



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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Josh Luthman
The FCC has nothing to do with it.  The number isn't the problem, the
origination carrier.  That's like complaining to the FCC that you
(Steve) don't offer service in Canada.  If you didn't try Level3
before who did you try?

We had 20 or 30 origination carriers before we could port 99-100% of
numbers.  1 or 2 big ones cover 95% of numbers.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is
 Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  I got an
 ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and
 My home exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the
 office exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything
 more that can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if
 I can’t get the port to go I will have very few takers.



 What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint with the
 FCC?



 Steve Barnes

 General Manager

 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


 
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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Imtiaz

Hi Steve,

Here is a nice thread with a lot of good info related to LNP. 

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24697102-Rural-number-porting-
situation-is-geographic-LNP-live-

To get around this you will need to find a Carrier that is somehow 
connected to that exchange or has a switch in that lata to be able to 
port that number.

While it is more convenient for your VOIP provider to blame Frontier, 
the real issue is that your VOIP provider either directly or indirectly 
does not have any (interconnect) services in your local exchange area.

Faisal.

-- Original Message --
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 9 Nov 2011 09:10:02 -0500

I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is 
Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  I got 
an ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port 
process and My home exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is 
different than the office exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see 
if there is anything more that can be done. I want to start offering 
VoIP to that exchange but if I can’t get the port to go I will have 
very few takers.

What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint with 
the FCC?

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/






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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Steve Barnes
Josh the FCC has a complaint form for this issue.  Not sure it will do anything 
or would do any good.

www.fcc.gov/cib/consumerfacts/numbport.html


Steve Barnes
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PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

The FCC has nothing to do with it.  The number isn't the problem, the 
origination carrier.  That's like complaining to the FCC that you
(Steve) don't offer service in Canada.  If you didn't try Level3 before who did 
you try?

We had 20 or 30 origination carriers before we could port 99-100% of numbers.  
1 or 2 big ones cover 95% of numbers.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now 
 is Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  
 I got an ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started the 
 port process and My home exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It 
 is different than the office exchange. They are checking with Level3 
 to see if there is anything more that can be done. I want to start 
 offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can't get the port to go I will have 
 very few takers.



 What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint 
 with the FCC?



 Steve Barnes

 General Manager

 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread jchism
In some areas where there is only the ilec (usually small communities) you do 
not have the option to port numbers. I have ran into that a few times in small 
cities where centurytel is the only carrier (ilec). In this situation your only 
option is to use a different npa-nxx

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On Nov 9, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

 I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is 
 Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  I got an 
 ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and My 
 home exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the 
 office exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything 
 more that can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if 
 I can’t get the port to go I will have very few takers.
  
 What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint with the 
 FCC?
  
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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Josh Luthman
That form is if the LSP isn't being cooperative.  I never encountered
a reason to use that form over tons of numbers porting.  There is no
crime against stupidity or negligence, which accounts for all of the
issues in porting.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 Josh the FCC has a complaint form for this issue.  Not sure it will do 
 anything or would do any good.

 www.fcc.gov/cib/consumerfacts/numbport.html


 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:14 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

 The FCC has nothing to do with it.  The number isn't the problem, the 
 origination carrier.  That's like complaining to the FCC that you
 (Steve) don't offer service in Canada.  If you didn't try Level3 before who 
 did you try?

 We had 20 or 30 origination carriers before we could port 99-100% of numbers. 
  1 or 2 big ones cover 95% of numbers.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:
 I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now
 is Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.
 I got an ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started the
 port process and My home exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It
 is different than the office exchange. They are checking with Level3
 to see if there is anything more that can be done. I want to start
 offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can't get the port to go I will have 
 very few takers.



 What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint
 with the FCC?



 Steve Barnes

 General Manager

 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Steve Barnes
Faisal  Good link.  That makes a little more sense of why I am having this 
issue but I hope I can find a way around it through Level3.

Missed you at Wispapoloza

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Imtiaz
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP


Hi Steve,

Here is a nice thread with a lot of good info related to LNP. 

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24697102-Rural-number-porting-
situation-is-geographic-LNP-live-

To get around this you will need to find a Carrier that is somehow connected to 
that exchange or has a switch in that lata to be able to port that number.

While it is more convenient for your VOIP provider to blame Frontier, the real 
issue is that your VOIP provider either directly or indirectly does not have 
any (interconnect) services in your local exchange area.

Faisal.

-- Original Message --
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 9 Nov 2011 09:10:02 -0500

I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is
Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  I got an ATA 
to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and My home 
exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the office 
exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything more that 
can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can’t 
get the port to go I will have very few takers.

What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint with
the FCC?

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/






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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 11/9/2011 09:10 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 
boundary=_000_E0FAAC2954BAC6459A09C629880F395275A78F28DCVMBX102ihoste_

I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now 
is Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love 
it.  I got an ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started 
the port process and My home exchange cannot be ported by my 
provider. It is different than the office exchange. They are 
checking with Level3 to see if there is anything more that can be 
done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if I 
can’t get the port to go I will have very few takers.

What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint 
with the FCC?


As other have noted, there are potential complications.

Some small carriers have prefix codes that are not 
portable.  Frontier isn't one of them; they're too big.  However, 
there are prefix codes not yet made portable, so when a customer 
wants to port a number out of them, there can be up to a six month 
wait for portability to be implemented, after a bona fide request.

Porting requests are made by the incoming carrier. VoIP providers are 
usually not carriers; they typically go through Level 3 or Paetec 
(will Windstream still want to do this?) as the actual carrier who 
would request the port.  Sometimes the link between the VoIP provider 
and carrier is not so strong, so the carrier won't go out of their 
way if there's a hangup (pun intended) in the process.

I can check the portability status of the number block in question -- 
what's the number (NPA-NXX-D; I don't need your whole number, just 
the thousands-block) you're trying to port?


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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Andy Trimmell
I hear if you’re trying to port from a rural telephone company the porting 
process is pretty horrible. They make it almost impossible and drown you in 
paperwork and most people give up. That might be the same case here.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

 

I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is 
Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  I got an ATA 
to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and My home 
exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the office 
exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything more that 
can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can’t get 
the port to go I will have very few takers.

 

What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint with the FCC?

 

Steve Barnes

General Manager

PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ 




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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread jchism
Centurylink is especially bad here. Maybe it is because their corporate office 
is here but it took me 3 months to port a business that had 28 lines. They are 
a clec in this market. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote:

 I hear if you’re trying to port from a rural telephone company the porting 
 process is pretty horrible. They make it almost impossible and drown you in 
 paperwork and most people give up. That might be the same case here.
  
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:10 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP
  
 I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is 
 Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  I got an 
 ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and My 
 home exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the 
 office exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything 
 more that can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if 
 I can’t get the port to go I will have very few takers.
  
 What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint with the 
 FCC?
  
 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Christopher Hair
We run into the same scenario. Frontier bought Verizon and because of the rural 
area maintained ILEC status. No Portability. We were able to get around this in 
a few areas by partnering with a CLEC that had DID’s  portability  rights in 
these areas. Use this site to search  for providers. 

 

http://localcallingguide.com/

 

 

Hope this helps

 

Chris

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:48 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

 

I hear if you’re trying to port from a rural telephone company the porting 
process is pretty horrible. They make it almost impossible and drown you in 
paperwork and most people give up. That might be the same case here.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:10 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

 

I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is 
Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  I got an ATA 
to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and My home 
exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the office 
exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything more that 
can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can’t get 
the port to go I will have very few takers.

 

What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint with the FCC?

 

Steve Barnes

General Manager

PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/ 




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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Scott Reed

IURC might get quicker results if you have to file a complaint.

On 11/9/2011 9:10 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:


I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now 
is Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  
I got an ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started the 
port process and My home exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It 
is different than the office exchange. They are checking with Level3 
to see if there is anything more that can be done. I want to start 
offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can’t get the port to go I 
will have very few takers.


What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint 
with the FCC?


Steve Barnes

General Manager

PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/





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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Fred Goldstein

At 11/9/2011 04:21 PM, you wrote:

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary==_NextPart_000_0028_01CC9EFB.94DF64F0
Content-Language: en-us

We run into the same scenario. Frontier bought Verizon and because 
of the rural area maintained ILEC status. No Portability. We were 
able to get around this in a few areas by partnering with a CLEC 
that had DID’s  portability  rights in these areas. Use this 
site to search  for providers.


http://localcallingguide.com/http://localcallingguide.com/



Frontier-ex-GTE has no right to block portability. In Richmond, IN 
pseudo-LATA 937, for instance, every prefix code is portable.  Most 
codes are pooled.  Same in LATA 334 to its north.  The only 
non-portable codes are wireless, generally paging, which is an 
explicit exception to portability.


Some CLECs or VoIPos may not have good procedures in place for 
porting numbers, and some ILECs make it harder than it need be, but 
it's doable.


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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Mike Hammett

telcodata.us look for other CLECs off that same tandem switch.

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On 11/9/2011 8:10 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:


I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now 
is Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  
I got an ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started the 
port process and My home exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It 
is different than the office exchange. They are checking with Level3 
to see if there is anything more that can be done. I want to start 
offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can't get the port to go I 
will have very few takers.


What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint 
with the FCC?


Steve Barnes

General Manager

PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi http://www.rcwifi.com/





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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
The key is the rate center the NNX is in and who controls that center. 

You can go to VoIP.ms or vitelity.com and see if they can port. They both get 
their DIDs from the same carrier.

Leon

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On Nov 9, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:

 At 11/9/2011 09:10 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
 Content-Language: en-US
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 boundary=_000_E0FAAC2954BAC6459A09C629880F395275A78F28DCVMBX102ihoste_
 
 I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now 
 is Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love 
 it.  I got an ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started 
 the port process and My home exchange cannot be ported by my 
 provider. It is different than the office exchange. They are 
 checking with Level3 to see if there is anything more that can be 
 done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if I 
 can’t get the port to go I will have very few takers.
 
 What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint 
 with the FCC?
 
 
 As other have noted, there are potential complications.
 
 Some small carriers have prefix codes that are not 
 portable.  Frontier isn't one of them; they're too big.  However, 
 there are prefix codes not yet made portable, so when a customer 
 wants to port a number out of them, there can be up to a six month 
 wait for portability to be implemented, after a bona fide request.
 
 Porting requests are made by the incoming carrier. VoIP providers are 
 usually not carriers; they typically go through Level 3 or Paetec 
 (will Windstream still want to do this?) as the actual carrier who 
 would request the port.  Sometimes the link between the VoIP provider 
 and carrier is not so strong, so the carrier won't go out of their 
 way if there's a hangup (pun intended) in the process.
 
 I can check the portability status of the number block in question -- 
 what's the number (NPA-NXX-D; I don't need your whole number, just 
 the thousands-block) you're trying to port?
 
 
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  ionary Consulting  http://www.ionary.com/
  +1 617 795 2701 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

2011-11-09 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
One other thing is for example where I live is owned by frontier. So I got a 
DID out of the reading, pa rate center which is toll free from the Leesport 
rate center I am in. So you can offer DIDs from adjoining areas preferably with 
a larger calling area

Hth leon

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On Nov 9, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote:

 I hear if you’re trying to port from a rural telephone company the porting 
 process is pretty horrible. They make it almost impossible and drown you in 
 paperwork and most people give up. That might be the same case here.
  
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Steve Barnes
 Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:10 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP
  
 I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is 
 Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  I got an 
 ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and My 
 home exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the 
 office exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything 
 more that can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if 
 I can’t get the port to go I will have very few takers.
  
 What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint with the 
 FCC?
  
 Steve Barnes
 General Manager
 PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi
 
 
 
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