Re: [WISPA] RIP Vivato
Its always disappointing to hear news of a company in the wireless space shutting down. It reflects poorly on the industry, expecially when its a manufacture of a product that has many technical acheivements such as Vivato.I look at wireless gear, like people, each with their own personality and unique traits, and the world is better off with multiple product personalitiesas the world is with multiple people personalities.I wish Vivato and its affiliates the best in getting through this process. I guess that most likely, some big name brand wireless company will buy the assets and keep the technology alive, as it does have unique capabilty. I'll also say, its probably Vivatos own fault, based on their poor decission to over value their product and try and get $10,000 for a wifi AP, in a world full of tough competitors. The technology very well may survivebased on intellectual property that likely will get bought for a fraction of itsoriginal cost. At the end of the day, creditors get screwed, and it becomes an example that incourages investors in our wireless space to second guess their investment strategies. And I feel for WISPs that chose Vivato, who are likely going to be in a position of significant risk and cost moving forward.Does anyone else even make product that takes care of FCC new power rules? Other than maybe SkyPilot? I don't use Vivato, so it does not directly effect me, but indirectly when the industry is effected, it effects us all.For example, its Vivato that encourages manufacturers to start to make Smart antennas to compete with Vivato. That market pressure no longer exists without Vivato. Strategically it does buy more time for WiFi WISPs to consider what they will do on their networks to survive the potential candidates that would use equipment that supported the new higher power rules. This is also a lesson for us all. Its says that technology does not guarantee survival, a realisticbusiness plan and reachingits goals does. PS. Glad I chose Trango :-) Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: G.Villarini To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 'WISPA General List' Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 8:59 PM Subject: [WISPA] RIP Vivato Another one bytes the dust http://www.vivato.net/ Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] RIP Vivato
Does anyone else even make product that takes care of FCC new power rules? Navini, which has its own share of problems, for starters, dont believe everything their website tells you! Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP Vivato Its always disappointing to hear news of a company in the wireless space shutting down. It reflects poorly on the industry, expecially when its a manufacture of a product that has many technical acheivements such as Vivato.I look at wireless gear, like people, each with their own personality and unique traits, and the world is better off with multiple product personalitiesas the world is with multiple people personalities.I wish Vivato and its affiliates the best in getting through this process. I guess that most likely, some big name brand wireless company will buy the assets and keep the technology alive, as it does have unique capabilty. I'll also say, its probably Vivatos own fault, based on their poor decission to over value their product and try and get $10,000 for a wifi AP, in a world full of tough competitors. The technology very well may survivebased on intellectual property that likely will get bought for a fraction of itsoriginal cost. At the end of the day, creditors get screwed, and it becomes an example that incourages investors in our wireless space to second guess their investment strategies. And I feel for WISPs that chose Vivato, who are likely going to be in a position of significant risk and cost moving forward.Does anyone else even make product that takes care of FCC new power rules? Other than maybe SkyPilot? I don't use Vivato, so it does not directly effect me, but indirectly when the industry is effected, it effects us all.For example, its Vivato that encourages manufacturers to start to make Smart antennas to compete with Vivato. That market pressure no longer exists without Vivato. Strategically it does buy more time for WiFi WISPs to consider what they will do on their networks to survive the potential candidates that would use equipment that supported the new higher power rules. This is also a lesson for us all. Its says that technology does not guarantee survival, a realisticbusiness plan and reachingits goals does. PS. Glad I chose Trango :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: G.Villarini To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 'WISPA General List' Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 8:59 PM Subject: [WISPA] RIP Vivato Another one bytes the dust http://www.vivato.net/ Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP Vivato
Anyone think Skypilot will be RIP? Tom DeReggi wrote: To my knowledge just SkyPilot. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] RIP Vivato Does anyone else even make product that takes care of FCC new power rules? Navini, which has its own share of problems, for starters, dont believe everything their website tells you! Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP Vivato Its always disappointing to hear news of a company in the wireless space shutting down. It reflects poorly on the industry, expecially when its a manufacture of a product that has many technical acheivements such as Vivato.I look at wireless gear, like people, each with their own personality and unique traits, and the world is better off with multiple product personalitiesas the world is with multiple people personalities.I wish Vivato and its affiliates the best in getting through this process. I guess that most likely, some big name brand wireless company will buy the assets and keep the technology alive, as it does have unique capabilty. I'll also say, its probably Vivatos own fault, based on their poor decission to over value their product and try and get $10,000 for a wifi AP, in a world full of tough competitors. The technology very well may survivebased on intellectual property that likely will get bought for a fraction of itsoriginal cost. At the end of the day, creditors get screwed, and it becomes an example that incourages investors in our wireless space to second guess their investment strategies. And I feel for WISPs that chose Vivato, who are likely going to be in a position of significant risk and cost moving forward.Does anyone else even make product that takes care of FCC new power rules? Other than maybe SkyPilot? I don't use Vivato, so it does not directly effect me, but indirectly when the industry is effected, it effects us all.For example, its Vivato that encourages manufacturers to start to make Smart antennas to compete with Vivato. That market pressure no longer exists without Vivato. Strategically it does buy more time for WiFi WISPs to consider what they will do on their networks to survive the potential candidates that would use equipment that supported the new higher power rules. This is also a lesson for us all. Its says that technology does not guarantee survival, a realisticbusiness plan and reachingits goals does. PS. Glad I chose Trango :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: G.Villarini To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 'WISPA General List' Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 8:59 PM Subject: [WISPA] RIP Vivato Another one bytes the dust http://www.vivato.net/ Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 12/16/2005 -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 "Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP Vivato
and 15 grand a pop. Would have never made it underneath their pricing model. Also- their first version wasnt a beam forming switch. On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:26:23 -0600, Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ya, they kind of resembled a billboard if you ask me. Serious windload. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RIP Vivato Weren't they super expensive stuff? Were they big? G.Villarini wrote: Another one bytes the dust . http://www.vivato.net/ Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/204 - Release Date: 12/15/2005 -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 Caught up in the Air 1 Thess. 4:17 -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RIP Vivato
Another one bytes the dust http://www.vivato.net/ Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RIP Vivato
Weren't they super expensive stuff? Were they big? G.Villarini wrote: Another one bytes the dust http://www.vivato.net/ Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/204 - Release Date: 12/15/2005 -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 "Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
