Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-13 Thread John Thomas
] Small auto start generator Small generators do not auto start very reliably. When cold or dampness causes hard starting the starter can overheat and burn out. Generally you need an electric choke to start gas engines, propane can flood and need to rest before trying again, diesel can be REAL

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-13 Thread John Thomas
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Small generators do not auto start very reliably. When cold or dampness causes hard starting the starter can overheat and burn out. Generally you need an electric choke to start gas

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-06 Thread Curtis Maurand
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Sorry, I should have posted this page. no moving parts. http://www.idatech.com/ Tom DeReggi wrote: Patrick, All excellent points, and reality checks. Thanks for the feedback! Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-06 Thread 3-dB Networks
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Sorry, I should have posted this page. no moving parts. http://www.idatech.com/ Tom DeReggi wrote: Patrick, All excellent points, and reality checks. Thanks for the feedback! Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-06 Thread Chuck Profito
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:11 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator What do those cost? Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-06 Thread Gino Villarini
AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Something like that. These guys have one that runs for 90 hours is 250 watts 12 or 24 VDC and uses a methanol and water mix. methane fuel cells don't use platinum and are, therefore, less expensive. Its configurable

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-06 Thread Curtis Maurand
, August 06, 2009 8:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Something like that. These guys have one that runs for 90 hours is 250 watts 12 or 24 VDC and uses a methanol and water mix. methane fuel cells don't use platinum and are, therefore, less

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-04 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Here you go. I have been using these Universal Batteries for a few years now and have not had any problems so far. http://www.factoriesonline.com/ProductInfo.aspx?id=1899684categoryid=0 I have also purchased from that vendor before and not had a problem. Call them for a freight quote. Patrick

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-04 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Old batteries are worth money. The local napa will take them for free. marlon - Original Message - From: Brian Webster To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator And don't forget the disposal costs

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-04 Thread Josh Luthman
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gary Garrett Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Small generators do not auto start very reliably. When cold

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-04 Thread Curtis Maurand
]on Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Patrick, In general, sounds like good advice. To clarify our intent, in posting. From yr 2000-2008, our model was to 1) Have minimum 12 hour

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-04 Thread Chuck Profito
-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Patrick, In general, sounds like good advice. To clarify our intent, in posting. From yr 2000-2008, our model was to 1) Have

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-04 Thread Curtis Maurand
- From: Patrick Shoemaker shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator I think you'll find that to get a propane/NG generator installed on a commercial building rooftop, you'll

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-04 Thread jp
power as sold in 1951! ... http://xrl.in/2u36 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Maurand Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Fuel

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-04 Thread Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Sorry, I should have posted this page. no moving parts. http://www.idatech.com/ Tom DeReggi wrote: Patrick, All excellent points, and reality checks. Thanks for the feedback! Tom DeReggi RapidDSL

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gary Garrett Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Small generators do not auto start very reliably. When cold or dampness

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Can you use a battery charger to essentially run your load from? Also will that load cause a smart charger to act not so smart because of the load on it? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Aug

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread jp
] Small auto start generator Small generators do not auto start very reliably. When cold or dampness causes hard starting the starter can overheat and burn out. Generally you need an electric choke to start gas engines, propane can flood and need to rest before trying again, diesel can

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
- From: Patrick Shoemaker shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Yes, it's possible to get a generator installed on a roof, but it will be an expensive project in our area

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread Christopher Erickson
Blvd., Suite 529 Anchorage, AK 99508 N61?11.710' W149?46.723' -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator The tripplite APS is what we use for this. Small generators are a pain. On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 02:57:23PM -0430, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: You might want something like an inverter (Xantrex for example) which includes a DC to AC inverter

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator The tripplite APS is what we use for this. Small generators are a pain. On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 02:57:23PM -0430, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: You might want something like an inverter (Xantrex for example) which includes a DC to AC inverter, battery

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Patrick, In general, sounds like good advice. To clarify our intent, in posting. From yr 2000-2008, our model was to 1) Have

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
, August 03, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator I think you'll find that to get a propane/NG generator installed on a commercial building rooftop, you'll be looking at $10k minimum using even the cheapest Generac air-cooled units. You'll need a roofing company to come out

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread Brian Webster
Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Patrick Shoemaker" shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread Blake Bowers
, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator And don't forget the disposal costs of batteries when

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread jp
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 05:58:11PM -0400, Patrick Shoemaker wrote: I just got a quote for qty 8 110AH 12v AGM batteries for a new site: $1500 including shipping. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-03 Thread jp
...@saucer.midcoast.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator The tripplite APS is what we use for this. Small generators are a pain. On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 02:57:23PM -0430, os10ru...@gmail.com

[WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-02 Thread Jerry Richardson
We rent on a tower that is suspposed to have gen-set backup but it does not start reliably. Any recommendations on a small auto-start generator? We only need to power a CMMmicro - ~100watts. Thanks __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-02 Thread eje
--Original Message-- From: Jerry Richardson Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: Motorola Canopy User Group To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Sent: Aug 2, 2009 13:34 We rent on a tower that is suspposed to have gen-set backup but it does

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-02 Thread Jerry Richardson
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gary Garrett Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Small generators do not auto start very reliably. When cold or dampness causes hard starting the starter

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-02 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gary Garrett Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Small generators do not auto start very reliably. When cold or dampness causes hard starting the starter can overheat

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-02 Thread Scott Carullo
. Ever. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com To: Motorola Canopy User Group motor...@wispa.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: [WISPA] Small auto start generator We rent

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator Thank you, That is very good advice. After some research, I'm leaning toward a UPS. A pair of good AGM batteries and charge controller will cost less and be far less maintainence. Then I'd just run the CMM off the batteries @ 24VDC. Thanks

Re: [WISPA] Small auto start generator

2009-08-02 Thread os10rules
Message - From: Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com To: Motorola Canopy User Group motor...@wispa.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: [WISPA] Small auto start generator We rent on a tower that is suspposed to have gen-set backup