[WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Jason Wallace
Gang, I've been working away, keeping my head down and nose to the grindstone for a while. Last week, I finally looked up and calculated what my little WISP is making after 5 years of working on it and working another job (sometimes 2 jobs, one of which is being a youth pastor) for 60 to

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 17:09, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote: My biggest obstacle (and expense) is bandwidth.  I am in the high desert of SE Arizona, and there are $800 T1's.  That's all I've found. What's the nearest major city? Is bandwidth substantially cheaper there? You may want to

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Jason Wallace
The nearest town of any size is Willcox Arizona, 25 to 30 miles away. T1's there are $400 ish per month, which is an improvement. Because of regulations and contractors, etc, towers in Arizona are a huge expense; 30k or so minimum. No do-it-yourselfing. I am looking at this option, but it

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Jerry Richardson
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Wallace Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line The nearest town of any size is Willcox Arizona, 25 to 30 miles away. T1's there are $400 ish per month, which is an improvement

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Jeremie Chism
] The Bottom Line The nearest town of any size is Willcox Arizona, 25 to 30 miles away. T1's there are $400 ish per month, which is an improvement. Because of regulations and contractors, etc, towers in Arizona are a huge expense; 30k or so minimum. No do-it-yourselfing. I am looking

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Blake Covarrubias
: [WISPA] The Bottom Line The nearest town of any size is Willcox Arizona, 25 to 30 miles away. T1's there are $400 ish per month, which is an improvement. Because of regulations and contractors, etc, towers in Arizona are a huge expense; 30k or so minimum. No do-it-yourselfing. I am looking

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Charles Wu
-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Wallace Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line The nearest town of any size is Willcox Arizona, 25 to 30 miles away. T1's there are $400 ish per month, which is an improvement. Because

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Charles Wu
Lol Blake...beat me to the punch =) -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 6:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line Jason, Have you

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Blake Covarrubias
Blake...beat me to the punch =) -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 6:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line Jason, Have you

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
How much are you buying ($ and mbit)? I haven't seen a map of Level3's latest EON product, but there were WilTel EON huts in Dragoon and Bowie. Both are about 30 miles from you. Benson is a bit further at 40 miles. I don't know the terrain there (hilly, mountains, flatland), but if it's at

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Wallace Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line The nearest town of any size is Willcox Arizona, 25 to 30 miles away. T1's there are $400 ish per month

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Mike Hammett
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 6:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line Jason, Have you SparkPlug.net to see they have service in your area? We operate in Yuma, AZ (and surrounding areas). If I recall correctly

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
Your best shot is back-hauling to a good capex x opex point as others pointed out, but if you find that doesn't work, consider using a mix of T1 bandwidth and one-way (better price and latency than two-way) satellite service, and policy-route traffic so some of it (usually web surfing, cache

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Blake Covarrubias
, June 14, 2010 6:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line Jason, Have you SparkPlug.net to see they have service in your area? We operate in Yuma, AZ (and surrounding areas). If I recall correctly SparkPlug approached us a while back trying to sell us very

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Jason Wallace
=) -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 6:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line Jason, Have you SparkPlug.net to see they have

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- Original Message - From: Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: [WISPA] The Bottom Line Gang, I've been working away, keeping my head down and nose to the grindstone for a while. Last week, I finally

Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line

2010-06-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
be fairly cheap and you shouldn't have much trouble getting a loan for that. Best part? NO towers needed! marlon - Original Message - From: Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] The Bottom Line