Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-25 Thread Rick Harnish
Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: Rick hit the nail on the head! It¹s all about expectations. If customers want 100% uptime they need to pay lots of $ each month or have a redundant connection. If customers are expecting 100% uptime for even $70 a month they need to re-think things.

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-24 Thread RickG
I imagine most of us on this list has been there, done that! If your new to this business or even business in general you must learn how to stand up for your business. With the first WISP I owned in West Palm, I would do anything to get a customer into billing. I knew better from my past

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-24 Thread Justin Wilson
Rick hit the nail on the head! It¹s all about expectations. If customers want 100% uptime they need to pay lots of $ each month or have a redundant connection. If customers are expecting 100% uptime for even $70 a month they need to re-think things. Justin -- Justin Wilson

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-24 Thread MDK
I have experienced that sense of relief when a customer called and cancelled. I have also decided that God put me in this position to teach me patience, and that firing the customer was failing to learn my lesson. God, give me patience already NOW!. Sigh. ++

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-24 Thread Robert West
In ten years I've fired, I think, 3 customers. This last one was pretty tame! One was very memorable as it was them trying to get me in a shouting match in the parking lot. And what did I keep saying to them? Have a nice day. That seems to piss them off even more. Bob- - Original

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-23 Thread Jason Bailey
I thought I  was the only one who spent many hours on the phone to get them back on the sat connection after convincing them they have a wireless router of thier ownMade the mistake of offering service and now they think it's a scam! How many hours should one spend on the phone with a

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-23 Thread Justin Wilson
Bob, Thanks for sharing this story. The evil in me was happy to see this. :-) Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-23 Thread Marco Coelho
90% of your problems and aggravations are less than 3% of your customer base. The worst ones I send to my competition (small evil grin). I simplify things in a couple of ways. 1. I tell my installers that if they let the customer drive the install they are fired. 2. I make each customer sign

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-23 Thread Justin Wilson
People rarely read contracts much less understand them. I have found many people view anything related to a wireless install as something they don¹t understand. How many times have installers been asked if the hole they drill is a ³special type of hole² or something goofy like that. I bet

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-22 Thread Robert West
Ah... But it got better today. This customer was the ONLY one on a very NEW AP. Teenage grandson begged and begged to be installed. I never install a paying customer until I test and test and tweak with a volunteer and it's perfect and near bullet proof. But Josh begs and I bend the

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-22 Thread Nick Olsen
Bending backward, Or in any direction only leads to bad things... Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:55 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-22 Thread Robert West
Yep. And I know better. I have that unwritten rule but I gave in to a kid. Kids suck. - Original Message - From: Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-22 Thread Ryan Ghering
Thats pretty similar to our NO EXCUSES policy I implemented a few weeks back, no excuses for anyone.. IT started with my installers giving me excuses on why jobs weren't getting done, then followed with why customers aren't paying, then continued with the you have unreliable service lines..

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Why did you use my name? :( On 4/22/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Ah... But it got better today. This customer was the ONLY one on a very NEW AP. Teenage grandson begged and begged to be installed. I never install a paying customer until I test and test and

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-22 Thread Rick Harnish
Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why did you use my name? :( On 4/22/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Ah... But it got better today. This customer was the ONLY one on a very NEW AP. Teenage grandson begged and begged to be installed. I never

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-22 Thread Jeremie Chism
Sounds like a good idea. Pass me a copy. I'd like some ideas also. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just- micro.com wrote: Ah... But it got better today. This customer was the ONLY one on a very NEW AP. Teenage grandson begged and begged

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-22 Thread Robert West
And I'm with ya, pal! Honestly, I work up to 18 hours a day, 7 days a week. I really have no time for whining and hand holding. This is why I told these people up front what the process would be and still they get all pissy even after a totally FREE installation which they were told was to

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-22 Thread Robert West
Sorry, dude. Boys name is really Josh but you're a lot smarter and don't live with mean old grandma. Bob- - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Today I

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-22 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Did you actually tell them YOUR FIRED ??? Congrats if you did, I know we've all wanted to do that at times to certain customers... Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-22 Thread Robert West
Regretfully no. I went the other route, was so overly nice and respectful (Almost to the edge of sarcasim) I'm sure they felt like total jerks, or at least normal folk would. A big smile on my face and a saws-all in my hand. But I was worked up, I can tell ya that. Bob- - Original

Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman

2010-04-22 Thread Scott Carullo
Thats funny, but we can relate. I like the one where the people call and tell us we hijacked their computer and we can't do that and how they are going to call (whoever). The only page their computer can open is our hotspot page cause no matter where they go they get redirected to our