Since when is the discussion about CALEA been about whether it is good? Are you even in the same thread? The key take away from WISPA's involvement was a useable standard that LEA can work with, as each WISP can then provide the LEA with the information as is available within their network, as provided for within the statue of CALEA.
The wire-line side, e.g., telcos, dealt with CALEA on a different level because of the amount of information readily available through standards already in existence and others made available since 1994 and updated again in August of 1999 for cellular and personal communications services. Unfortunately the telcos, i.e., telecommunications carriers were provided with greater assistance in their efforts to become compliant, where as the WISP's and VOIP providers were not afforded the same. Compliance with CALEA is available in 3 ways, 1. A service provider may develop its own compliance solution for its unique network, e.g, a WISP. 2. may purchase a compliance solution from vendors, or 3. purchase a compliance solution from a trusted third party, (TTP). What WISPA did was developed a compliance standard that LEA can work with, as an industry it is responsible for setting CALEA standards, pursuant to the statues of CALEA. Not to rehash the whole CALEA ordeal, which certainly was the case, this is just one example of how WISPA got involved and took on the initiative to do something about it, with or without your help. IMO, CALEA was the most important issue to deal with at the time and it got done. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was:Report: FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking > Forrest, the notion that some networks can't be sniffed was certainly given > some time back when and somewhat addressed - although more along the lines > of "why on earth would you NOT have a single point of failure network?", as > if that's a good thing. I'd like to note that according to recent > commentary by WISPA leadership, you WILL either fully comply... Or else. > That was only a temporary stop-gap, and you were expected to make your > system fully compliant over time. > > BTW, where's the "This network topology cannot be made compliant" option on > the filing you're required to do? Oh, wait, no such LEGAL provision exists > for reporting purposes. > > Again, you have not made the case that CALEA is good in any way. > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > <insert witty tagline here> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Forrest W Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:52 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: > FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, in relation to a previous statement >> about CALEA being good for WISPA: >>> I can find NO benefit to it of ANY >>> kind. Nor has anyone I know of explained a single "benefit", ever. It >>> is >>> a mandate on how a network must function, a limitation to equipment, >>> software, topology, and redundancy, and an absurd notion in the first >>> place. >>> It is a direct requirement to dumb-down and overbuild bandwidth, with NO >>> return of ANY kind, financial or otherwise. >> From my perspective, almost everyone in the WISP industry got >> broadsided by the whole CALEA thing... But by the time everyone was >> aware of the requirements, it was too late to do anything meaningful as >> far as the rules themselves. >> >> What WISPA did was diffuse a potentially very bad and very expensive >> situation for WISP's. In short, the standards which WISPA developed >> and got approved basically says that you have to be able to packet sniff >> the data and provide it to the LEA. One actual statement in the >> APPROVED standard says: >> >> "In unusual cases it may be impossible to perform one or more of these >> functions. The WISP is expected to make a >> best effort attempt to satisfy these requirements." >> >> It doesn't say you have to redesign your network. It doesn't say you >> have to dumb down a network. It doesn't say you have to overbuild >> bandwidth. Go ahead read the standard.. and realize that the ability >> to comply with this very easy to comply with standard is your safe >> harbor.... all thanks to the hard work provided by WISPA. You can >> choose how much you want to do to prepare. True, you may have to go >> put a packet sniffer at an AP site in response to a intercept request, >> but I suspect that would have been the case before CALEA as well. >> >> -forrest >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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