Our tower crews are allowed to pick and choose what they like for
Harness and Lanyards as long as it's approved by our safety manager.
They all choose the exofit harness by DBSALA with the seat. I prefer
this one as well. The new ones have a spring in the that makes the rear
ring stick up, very
, January 12, 2009 6:22 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Tower accident
Our tower crews are allowed to pick and choose what they like for
Harness and Lanyards as long as it's approved by our safety manager.
They all choose the exofit harness by DBSALA with the seat. I prefer
this one as well. The new ones have
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Our guys like Exofit the best so
: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy. Don't go cheap on
safety gear, you can't afford it.
Jim
Blair Davis wrote:
I use mine 3-4 times a month. Spent $500 lanyards and harness. A
good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe
The last harness we bought had a bar across the seat. My guys like that
better because it lets them rest more on their butts than their legs
while working on the side of the tower.
I think it's Elk River Eagle Tower LX Harness. Not sure exactly though,
it's listed at 227.95 and I thought we
Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy. Don't go cheap on
safety gear, you
General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
point. Safety over the check book. So with that said what are some
good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear. I know Tessco, trying to
find some competing prices.
Steve Barnes
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
point. Safety over the check book. So with that said what
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
http://www.discountsafetygear.com/
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Jerry Richardson
airCloud Communications
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Thursday
Networks
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:53 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Something about that name doesn't sound right :-)
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun
: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
http://www.discountsafetygear.com/
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Jerry Richardson
airCloud Communications
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun
: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
point. Safety over the check book. So with that said what are some
good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear. I know Tessco, trying to
find some competing prices.
Steve Barnes
RCWiFi
Definately Midwest Unlimited. Buy from a company in the tower business.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:43:37
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
That's
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
My rule has always been 1 man on the ground or at least nearby with a two
way radio. Anything big
...@avolutia.com
www.avolutia.com
www.shelbywireless.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:08 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
We NEVER climb
it is
more likely).
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Eric Albert
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Most Fire Departments ARE very unqualified to
do tower rescues. Even those that offer high angle rescue
are still not normally trained on towers.
We are working with a couple of state wireless associations
on trying to help that - but it is a very slow process.
At this point however, a couple
Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
What do you guys do on elevator/grain legs that have cages around them.
Usually it's like a 100ft ladder.
Brian
Chuck McCown wrote:
I used to free climb towers. Some of them had
@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
The only downside to relying on the EMS/Fire Dept. is that most of them
are not trained in high altitude rescue. ComTrain actually recommends a
3 minute response time from EMS/Fire is required for a rescue
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 1:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Spending less than $1k on rescue
training per employee is pennies compared to the life of our
employees.
I fully
We don't use our harnesses that much.
Steve Barnes wrote:
New Question on this thread. I need a inexpensive harness. I never
climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to let
go at the top and getting tired of my fall out of tree while hunting
harness. I use it less
Bad idea. Did we not just have this discussion on always being as safe as
possible?
We used Comtrain's suggested harness and got it at Tessco. Best decision we
ever made.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
Those who don't understand
I use mine 3-4 times a month. Spent $500 lanyards and harness. A good
set will last many years, be comfortable and safe. Spend the money,
you won't regret it.
Steve Barnes wrote:
New Question on this thread. I need a inexpensive harness. I never
climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV
Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy. Don't go cheap on
safety gear, you can't afford it.
Jim
Blair Davis wrote:
I use mine 3-4 times a month. Spent $500 lanyards and harness. A
good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe. Spend the
money, you won't regret it.
: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
New Question on this thread. I need a inexpensive harness. I never
climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to let
go at the top and getting tired of my fall out of tree while hunting
harness. I use
Very sad indeed.
I don't think they should be giving awards away for incidents when
people die at work. Even if the person made a mistake like that.
It was not funny to me at all.
But some have a weird sense of humor.
Me, I see no humor in a death or falling off a tower
Blair Davis wrote:
Not to say thats not right. The whole point of the Darwin awards was
that the people who died have died in the most stupidest way, that they
did the entire human population a favor by eliminating themselves from
the gene pool. There is a movie even on it.Like the guy who
strapped a Jato
When climbing how many think let's tie off in two places because this
first piece of angle iron is going to fall off?
On 1/6/09, Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:
Not to say thats not right. The whole point of the Darwin awards was
that the people who died have died
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:52 AM
To: dmburg...@linktechs.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
When climbing how many think let's tie off in two places because this
first piece of angle
, January 06, 2009 8:52 AM
To: dmburg...@linktechs.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
When climbing how many think let's tie off in two places because this
first piece of angle iron is going to fall off?
On 1/6/09, Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net
Of George Rogato
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
When you climb, do you only use one lanyard to tie off with?
Does this mean every time you unclip your lanyard to move it that you
are then not tied off at all?
3-dB Networks
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
When you climb, do you only use one lanyard to tie off with?
Does this mean every time you unclip your lanyard to move it that you
are then not tied off at all?
3-dB Networks wrote:
Well I don't tie off in two places when I'm climbing
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
It makes sense the way you explained it. So when
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
When you climb, do you only use one lanyard to tie off with?
Does this mean every time you unclip your lanyard to move it that you
are then not tied off at all?
3-dB Networks wrote:
Well I don't tie off in two places when I'm climbing
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Back in the day, we climbed wooden poles with nothing other than our hooks
and hands. Once you got up, then you would throw the one single belt
around
the pole. Most of the time the drop was between 20 and 30 feet. Enough
to
hurt you pretty bad
.
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
What is this wood? Is it like primitive steel? =)
Did the pole have hooks like a gen pole? What
, and actually, if
the pole was nice and soft, was very safe.
- Original Message -
From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
When you climb, do you only use one lanyard to tie off
10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
When you climb, do you only use one lanyard to tie off with?
Does this mean every time you unclip your lanyard to move it that you
are then not tied off at all?
3-dB Networks wrote:
Well I don't tie off in two places when I'm climbing
: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Back in the day, we climbed wooden poles with nothing other than our hooks
and hands. Once you got up, then you would throw the one single belt around
the pole. Most of the time the drop was between 20
here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
- Original Message -
From: Chuck McCown ch...@beehive.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
You just put your gloved hands on each side of the pole
quicker and easier, and actually, if
the pole was nice and soft, was very safe.
- Original Message -
From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
I can remember
: [WISPA] Tower accident
Chuck McCown wrote:
Back in the day, we climbed wooden poles with nothing other than our hooks
and hands. Once you got up, then you would throw the one single belt
around
the pole. Most of the time the drop was between 20 and 30 feet. Enough
to
hurt you pretty bad
.
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Chuck
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
I used to free climb towers. Some of them had so much crap on them it
was
the only way to do it (unless you had two belts... perish
10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Very sad indeed.
I don't think they should be giving awards away for incidents when
people die at work. Even if the person made a mistake like that.
It was not funny to me at all.
But some have a weird sense of humor.
Me, I see no humor
: Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
When I climb, I am clipped into three different areas while working
away.
Freestyle, phew, glad I missed that part of it. I have been climbing
06, 2009 8:52 AM
To: dmburg...@linktechs.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
When climbing how many think "let's tie off in two places because this
first piece of angle iron is going to fall off"?
On 1/6/09, Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs
Exactly.
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
I think what he means
, January 06, 2009 7:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
I believe a cage is an acceptable OSHA fall restraint. This was
reviewed during my recent ComTrain class in Orlando. The only issue is
if you get on the platform, you have no fall arrest and thus you are
supposed
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
What do you guys do on elevator/grain legs that have cages around them.
Usually it's like a 100ft ladder.
Brian
Chuck McCown wrote:
I used to free climb towers. Some of them had so much crap on them it
was
the only way to do it (unless you had two
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:20 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one on
the leg
much crap on them it was
the only way to do it (unless you had two belts... perish the thought).
- Original Message -
From: "3-dB Networks" wi...@3-db.net
To: "'WISPA General List'" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [W
PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
I believe a cage is an acceptable OSHA fall restraint. This was
reviewed during my recent ComTrain class in Orlando. The only issue is
if you get on the platform, you have no fall arrest and thus you are
supposed to wear a harness
: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one on
the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a
belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
There is a railing on all the ones that I am
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
I believe a cage is an acceptable OSHA fall restraint. This was
reviewed
?
Chuck
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Well, lately we have backed off. But for the last 8 months, it seemed
like a couple
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one on
the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a
belt or a light
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Well, lately we have backed off. But for the last 8 months, it seemed
like a couple legs a day (30 sites). So much for the cheap route I
went
: [WISPA] Tower accident
When I climb, I am clipped into three different areas while working
away.
Freestyle, phew, glad I missed that part of it. I have been climbing for
about 4 years I couldn't imagine using some of the stuff people used to
use.
-Cameron
-Original Message
Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
What do you guys do on elevator/grain legs that have cages around them.
Usually it's like a 100ft ladder.
Brian
Chuck McCown wrote:
I used to free climb towers. Some of them
: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Climbing a couple legs a day? WOW! I have a lot more repeaters than
that and we usually only revisit to upgrade or repair. We're mostly
MikroTik and went and upgraded one of our longest uptime AP's last week.
130+ plus of uptime. What gear are you using that needs
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Climbing a couple legs a day? WOW! I have a lot more repeaters than
that and we usually only revisit to upgrade or repair. We're mostly
MikroTik and went and upgraded one of our longest uptime AP's last week.
130+ plus of uptime. What
Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Climbing a couple legs a day? WOW! I have a lot more repeaters than
that and we usually only
Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Climbing a couple legs a day? WOW! I have a lot more repeaters
Tower accident...
http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2008-20.html
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Subject: [WISPA] Tower accident
Tower accident...
http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2008-20.html
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
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Oh NO, not the Darwin Awards again...
http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2007-07.html
I almost died laughing...
Blair Davis wrote:
Tower accident...
http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2008-20.html
Mike Hammett wrote:
A full body hazmat setup is always cheap insurance when you're around
JohnnyO!
How very true that statement is!. I have also learned from prior
experience that upping your life insurance may not be a bad idea also! ;-)
: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Accident
Mike Hammett wrote:
A full body hazmat setup is always cheap insurance when you're around
JohnnyO!
How very true that statement is!. I have also learned from prior
experience that upping your life insurance may not be a bad idea
]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Accident
Mike Hammett wrote:
A full body hazmat setup is always cheap insurance when you're
around JohnnyO!
How very true that statement is!. I have also learned from prior
experience
Hi Folks,
We had what turned out to
be a minor
tower accident involving one of our tower climbers.
It appears that he had
attached a wrench to the wrong carabiner
on another climbers harness. When climber #2 detached the carabiner,
the wrench
fell without his knowledge. Climber #2 was
, 2007 8:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Tower Accident
Hi Folks,
We had what turned out to be a minor tower accident involving one of our
tower climbers.
It appears that he had attached a wrench to the wrong carabiner on another
climbers harness. When climber #2 detached
Consulting - Tower Services
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zak Wolfinger
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Tower Accident
Hi Folks
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:55 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Accident
If you read the post, the wrench hit the ladder and then bounced into
his face. Even if he had a hard hat on (which I am guessing he did), it
does not protect your face.
Travis
Microserv
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tower Accident
I did read the post. But as my post said:
I could not imagine what would happen if it hit him on the head.
Could not imagine...if Were the key words.
Nothing can protect from all scenarios. If so tower climbers would
!
CampWTF Founding Member :)
JohnnyO
- Original Message - From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tower Accident
I did read the post. But as my post said:
I could not imagine what would
:17 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Accident
JohnnyO, That suit was just to keep the bugs off. :-) When you have no
place to sleep but a cot and the great wide open, the last thing I want to
be is a snack for all of the Mississippi bugs and critters. I came down
there to do Katrina relief
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