RE: [WISPA] Trade Organizations and Consumer Mentality

2007-09-03 Thread Mac Dearman
I say I say - - RIGHT ON TRACK!

Thanks for the speech John. Sometimes I hear people complain about what the
President is doing (has done) and I ask - did you vote? What a mistake they
make when they fess up that they aren't even registered to vote. 

If you don't vote - DO NOT COMPLAIN! 

In order to vote here - PAY UP, get off your duff and get active!! Not only
do we need you, but the industry needs your voice.


Thanks,
Mac Dearman






> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of J. Vogel
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:56 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Trade Organizations and Consumer Mentality
> 
> I have seen several posts in the last couple of days made by
> non-members of WISPA stating how they could not become
> a part of the organization until such time as the organization
> changes in some way to meet their requirements. How is it that
> non-members, people who are unwilling to part with a year's dues,
>  feel that they have any standing to complain about
> what the organization is doing (or not) when they themselves refuse to
> become a part of the organization and thus gain standing to influence
> what the organization is doing?
> 
> Come on, people. It isn't going to break you to become a member.
> The cost is minimal. Until such time as you are willing to commit
> even that amount, you have absolutely no standing to complain.
> 
> Is it your perception that the organization is being run by a select
> few, a good-ole-boys club? Want to change that? Become a member
> and run for election to the board. Don't want to become a member,
> or run for the board? Quit complaining about not having a voice.
> 
> Don't agree with formal positions taken (or not) by the membership?
> Become a member and vote on the postions taken. Don't want to
> become a member and vote? Quit complaining about the positions
> taken (or not) by the organization.
> 
> WISPA is not a store. They are not in business to come up with
> products to sell to you. WISPA is an group of industry members who
> have banded together to increase their impact especially on regulatory
> issues, and other ways in which the organization feels will be
> beneficial
> to its members and the industry in general. If you don't think they are
> doing it right, pay your dues, get involved, and work for change in
> the organization. If you are waiting for the organization to become
> what you want it to be before you are willing to commit the paltry sum
> required for a year's membership and some time to it, you have missed
> the point of what a trade organization is to begin with IMHO.
> 
> If you have not yet joined the organization, on what basis do you think
> the organization owes you anything?
> 
> (insert your own analogy here. You know the principle, those who
> complain
> the loudest are often those who refuse to take part in producing the
> outcome
> which falls short of their expectations...)
> 
> The views expressed in this rant do not reflect the official position
> of
> WISPA,
> its board of directors, or any individual in particular.
> 
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[WISPA] Trade Organizations and Consumer Mentality

2007-09-03 Thread J. Vogel
I have seen several posts in the last couple of days made by
non-members of WISPA stating how they could not become
a part of the organization until such time as the organization
changes in some way to meet their requirements. How is it that
non-members, people who are unwilling to part with a year's dues,
 feel that they have any standing to complain about
what the organization is doing (or not) when they themselves refuse to
become a part of the organization and thus gain standing to influence
what the organization is doing?

Come on, people. It isn't going to break you to become a member.
The cost is minimal. Until such time as you are willing to commit
even that amount, you have absolutely no standing to complain.

Is it your perception that the organization is being run by a select
few, a good-ole-boys club? Want to change that? Become a member
and run for election to the board. Don't want to become a member,
or run for the board? Quit complaining about not having a voice.

Don't agree with formal positions taken (or not) by the membership?
Become a member and vote on the postions taken. Don't want to
become a member and vote? Quit complaining about the positions
taken (or not) by the organization.

WISPA is not a store. They are not in business to come up with
products to sell to you. WISPA is an group of industry members who
have banded together to increase their impact especially on regulatory
issues, and other ways in which the organization feels will be beneficial
to its members and the industry in general. If you don't think they are
doing it right, pay your dues, get involved, and work for change in
the organization. If you are waiting for the organization to become
what you want it to be before you are willing to commit the paltry sum
required for a year's membership and some time to it, you have missed
the point of what a trade organization is to begin with IMHO.

If you have not yet joined the organization, on what basis do you think
the organization owes you anything?

(insert your own analogy here. You know the principle, those who complain
the loudest are often those who refuse to take part in producing the outcome
which falls short of their expectations...)

The views expressed in this rant do not reflect the official position of
WISPA,
its board of directors, or any individual in particular.

-- 

John Vogel - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.vogent.net   620-754-3907
Vogel Enterprises, LLC
Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas



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** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 **
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