Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
On 11/29/2010 9:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? check out vitelity and voip.ms Leon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
On 11/29/2010 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Well right. There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA. 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion. Only say 3 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA. Obviously all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I think I got the point across. Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national providers. Take Elizabeth, IL for example. It hooks to the Freeport, IL tandem. Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there. However, local companies BitWise and Aero are both there. Both will sell you VoIP service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's network. I live in an area where Frontier is the LEC not a BOC. Only a handful of carriers are in those rate centers. When I needed numbers I got local numbers from the Reading, PA rate center since that local calling area included the area I am in. When I moved within my same town a year ago I ported my number to Service Electric and get my local dial tone through them and haven't been happier plus I'm not constrained with the poor DSL at the new location. In any event, the key is if a provider doesn't service your late rate center look upstream for the next major one that includes you local calling area. Leon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
Vox has reasonable rates if you are a WISPA member. We have used them for about 2 years without any issues. Management billing is a bit cumbersome if you offer anything other than unlimited services. voxcorp.net Chris From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Leon D. Zetekoff Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:58 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider On 11/29/2010 9:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? check out vitelity and voip.ms Leon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
We actually had that happen with Verizon once. It took two months for them to finally remove the number so that local customers could call. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I have ported lots of them in their clec area. It is always a problem. Typical Att ports are 7-10 days. Centurytel is 90-120 days. Even when they port they sometimes don't remove the numbers from their switch so any centurytel customer that calls their numbers gets a ring with no answer. They truly try everything possible to stop a port. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I know we ported a CenturyTel customer, I remember dealing with those idiots. One of those ports that personify hell. You were probably better off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where Centurytel was the ilec. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For domestic we have...off hand... Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications, Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Well right. There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA. 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion. Only say 3 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA. Obviously all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I think I got the point across. Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national providers. Take Elizabeth, IL for example. It hooks to the Freeport, IL tandem. Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there. However, local companies BitWise and Aero are both there. Both will sell you VoIP service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and may even be more restrictive than that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
It happens automatically every 30-60 days for their DID inventory process or something. I do not have customers that will wait 30 days, so I call in and make sure they clear it up. Almost always fixed within the day, maybe two. I typically call it in in the morning and before I leave for the day call the customer on our PSTN line. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Alan Bryant a...@gtekcommunications.com wrote: We actually had that happen with Verizon once. It took two months for them to finally remove the number so that local customers could call. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I have ported lots of them in their clec area. It is always a problem. Typical Att ports are 7-10 days. Centurytel is 90-120 days. Even when they port they sometimes don't remove the numbers from their switch so any centurytel customer that calls their numbers gets a ring with no answer. They truly try everything possible to stop a port. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I know we ported a CenturyTel customer, I remember dealing with those idiots. One of those ports that personify hell. You were probably better off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where Centurytel was the ilec. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For domestic we have...off hand... Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications, Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Well right. There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA. 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion. Only say 3 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA. Obviously all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I think I got the point across. Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national providers. Take Elizabeth, IL for example. It hooks to the Freeport, IL tandem. Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there. However, local companies BitWise and Aero are both there. Both will sell you VoIP service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and may even be more restrictive than that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
With VOX, does your VoIP traffic traverse the Internet, or do/can you get a cross connect with VOX? -Kristian On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 14:17 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: It happens automatically every 30-60 days for their DID inventory process or something. I do not have customers that will wait 30 days, so I call in and make sure they clear it up. Almost always fixed within the day, maybe two. I typically call it in in the morning and before I leave for the day call the customer on our PSTN line. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Alan Bryant a...@gtekcommunications.com wrote: We actually had that happen with Verizon once. It took two months for them to finally remove the number so that local customers could call. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I have ported lots of them in their clec area. It is always a problem. Typical Att ports are 7-10 days. Centurytel is 90-120 days. Even when they port they sometimes don't remove the numbers from their switch so any centurytel customer that calls their numbers gets a ring with no answer. They truly try everything possible to stop a port. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I know we ported a CenturyTel customer, I remember dealing with those idiots. One of those ports that personify hell. You were probably better off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where Centurytel was the ilec. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For domestic we have...off hand... Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications, Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Well right. There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA. 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion. Only say 3 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA. Obviously all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I think I got the point across. Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national providers. Take Elizabeth, IL for example. It hooks to the Freeport, IL tandem. Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there. However, local companies BitWise and Aero are both there. Both will sell you VoIP service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and may even be more restrictive than that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] VOIP Provider
We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
We make something like 30 to 40 percent. Happy with our service. On Nov 29, 2010 9:29 PM, Liam Cummings lcummi...@datacomspecialists.com wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
VOX. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings lcummi...@datacomspecialists.com wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
I think I have something like 10 numbers that weren't ported. Everything we do is port. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and may even be more restrictive than that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and may even be more restrictive than that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
Well right. There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA. 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion. Only say 3 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA. Obviously all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I think I got the point across. Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national providers. Take Elizabeth, IL for example. It hooks to the Freeport, IL tandem. Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there. However, local companies BitWise and Aero are both there. Both will sell you VoIP service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and may even be more restrictive than that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
For domestic we have...off hand... Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications, Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Well right. There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA. 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion. Only say 3 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA. Obviously all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I think I got the point across. Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national providers. Take Elizabeth, IL for example. It hooks to the Freeport, IL tandem. Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there. However, local companies BitWise and Aero are both there. Both will sell you VoIP service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and may even be more restrictive than that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where Centurytel was the ilec. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For domestic we have...off hand... Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications, Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Well right. There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA. 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion. Only say 3 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA. Obviously all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I think I got the point across. Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national providers. Take Elizabeth, IL for example. It hooks to the Freeport, IL tandem. Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there. However, local companies BitWise and Aero are both there. Both will sell you VoIP service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and may even be more restrictive than that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
I know we ported a CenturyTel customer, I remember dealing with those idiots. One of those ports that personify hell. You were probably better off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where Centurytel was the ilec. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For domestic we have...off hand... Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications, Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Well right. There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA. 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion. Only say 3 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA. Obviously all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I think I got the point across. Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national providers. Take Elizabeth, IL for example. It hooks to the Freeport, IL tandem. Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there. However, local companies BitWise and Aero are both there. Both will sell you VoIP service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and may even be more restrictive than that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
I have ported lots of them in their clec area. It is always a problem. Typical Att ports are 7-10 days. Centurytel is 90-120 days. Even when they port they sometimes don't remove the numbers from their switch so any centurytel customer that calls their numbers gets a ring with no answer. They truly try everything possible to stop a port. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I know we ported a CenturyTel customer, I remember dealing with those idiots. One of those ports that personify hell. You were probably better off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where Centurytel was the ilec. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For domestic we have...off hand... Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications, Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Well right. There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA. 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion. Only say 3 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA. Obviously all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I think I got the point across. Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national providers. Take Elizabeth, IL for example. It hooks to the Freeport, IL tandem. Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there. However, local companies BitWise and Aero are both there. Both will sell you VoIP service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and may even be more restrictive than that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
Ohio is a fairly well populated state. (You may think not, but just wait until the next election to see how big Ohio is.) More than likely multiple of those carriers service those areas. I'm just trying to say that most WISPs that don't already have VoIP live areas that I guarantee you XO and Global Crossing couldn't find on a map with Google's help. I thought Pac West folded when they ran out of money, but I guess not. I haven't looked at their penetration since then because of this. Verizon depends on which part of the house is selling it this time. Verizon local doesn't really service much of anything after splitting Frontier and their New England businesses, and they've never really been fond of the MCI VoIP product. etc., etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: For domestic we have...off hand... Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications, Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Well right. There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA. 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion. Only say 3 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA. Obviously all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I think I got the point across. Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national providers. Take Elizabeth, IL for example. It hooks to the Freeport, IL tandem. Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there. However, local companies BitWise and Aero are both there. Both will sell you VoIP service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and may even be more restrictive than that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
Verizon just sold out to Frontier around here. It's routine to use the pstn line and force them to update their switches. On Nov 29, 2010 10:57 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I have ported lots of them in their clec area. It is always a problem. Typical Att ports are 7-10 days. Centurytel is 90-120 days. Even when they port they sometimes don't remove the numbers from their switch so any centurytel customer that calls their numbers gets a ring with no answer. They truly try everything possible to stop a port. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I know we ported a CenturyTel customer, I remember dealing with those idiots. One of those ports that personify hell. You were probably better off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where Centurytel was the ilec. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For domestic we have...off hand... Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications, Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Well right. There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA. 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion. Only say 3 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA. Obviously all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I think I got the point across. Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national providers. Take Elizabeth, IL for example. It hooks to the Freeport, IL tandem. Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there. However, local companies BitWise and Aero are both there. Both will sell you VoIP service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's network. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and may even be more restrictive than that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers. On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] VOIP Provider
It seems to me that there was another, or maybe several other, VOIP providers mentioned in a previous post that offers reseller packages but does not require the $2500 initial deposit that VOX requires but offered similar services. Would someone please help jog my mind? Thanks! Josh Rowe -- NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
Joshua, I use www.leasedminds.com and did not have to deal with the deposits or anything else for that matter. His name is Graham Wooden. His phone number is on his web site. Again, I am very happy with his company. He goes above and beyond for his customers. He also has reseller agreements in place. Good Luck, --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Joshua Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joshua Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] VOIP Provider To: wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 11:33 AM It seems to me that there was another, or maybe several other, VOIP providers mentioned in a previous post that offers reseller packages but does not require the $2500 initial deposit that VOX requires but offered similar services. Would someone please help jog my mind? Thanks! Josh Rowe -- NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
Josh, Try these folks;http://www.aretta.com/ I have no personal experience with them, but have several WISP buddies who proclaim they are great. You will have options with them. Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Rowe Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] VOIP Provider It seems to me that there was another, or maybe several other, VOIP providers mentioned in a previous post that offers reseller packages but does not require the $2500 initial deposit that VOX requires but offered similar services. Would someone please help jog my mind? Thanks! Josh Rowe -- NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.16/1651 - Release Date: 9/4/2008 6:57 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/