Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-30 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff

On 11/29/2010 9:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:


We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time 
finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup 
and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?



check out vitelity and voip.ms

Leon



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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-30 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
On 11/29/2010 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 Well right.  There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA.
 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion.  Only say 3
 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA.  Obviously
 all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I
 think I got the point across.

 Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is
 difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national
 providers.  Take Elizabeth, IL for example.  It hooks to the Freeport,
 IL tandem.  Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I
 checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there.  However, local
 companies BitWise and Aero are both there.  Both will sell you VoIP
 service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's
 network.
I live in an area where Frontier is the LEC not a BOC. Only a handful of 
carriers are in those rate centers. When I needed numbers I got local 
numbers from the Reading, PA rate center since that local calling area 
included the area I am in. When I moved within my same town a year ago I 
ported my number to Service Electric and get my local dial tone through 
them and haven't been happier plus I'm not constrained with the poor DSL 
at the new location. In any event, the key is if a provider doesn't 
service your late rate center look upstream for the next major one that 
includes you local calling area.

Leon



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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-30 Thread Christopher Hair
Vox has reasonable rates if you are a WISPA member.  We have used them for
about 2 years without any issues.  Management  billing  is a bit cumbersome
if you offer anything other than unlimited services.

 

voxcorp.net

 

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On 11/29/2010 9:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: 

We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding a
provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell.
Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?

check out vitelity and voip.ms

Leon




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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-30 Thread Alan Bryant
We actually had that happen with Verizon once. It took two months for
them to finally remove the number so that local customers could call.

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have ported lots of them in their clec area. It is always a problem. 
 Typical Att ports are 7-10 days. Centurytel is 90-120 days. Even when they 
 port they sometimes don't remove the numbers from their switch so any 
 centurytel customer that calls their numbers gets a ring with no answer. They 
 truly try everything possible to stop a port.

 Sent from my iPhone4

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 I know we ported a CenturyTel customer, I remember dealing with those
 idiots.  One of those ports that personify hell.

 You were probably better off.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where 
 Centurytel was the ilec.

 Sent from my iPhone4

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 wrote:

 For domestic we have...off hand...

 Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications,
 Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon

 Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
 wrote:
 Well right.  There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA.
 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion.  Only say 3
 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA.  Obviously
 all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I
 think I got the point across.

 Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is
 difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national
 providers.  Take Elizabeth, IL for example.  It hooks to the Freeport,
 IL tandem.  Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I
 checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there.  However, local
 companies BitWise and Aero are both there.  Both will sell you VoIP
 service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's
 network.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are 
 comparable.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net 
  wrote:
 Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports
 from that rate center.  They have to be on the same tandem switch and 
 may
 even be more restrictive than that.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.

 On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  
 wrote:
 The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of
 the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means 
 nothing.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:
 We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time
 finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup
 and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?





 
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-30 Thread Josh Luthman
It happens automatically every 30-60 days for their DID inventory
process or something.  I do not have customers that will wait 30 days,
so I call in and make sure they clear it up.  Almost always fixed
within the day, maybe two.  I typically call it in in the morning and
before I leave for the day call the customer on our PSTN line.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Alan Bryant
a...@gtekcommunications.com wrote:
 We actually had that happen with Verizon once. It took two months for
 them to finally remove the number so that local customers could call.

 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have ported lots of them in their clec area. It is always a problem. 
 Typical Att ports are 7-10 days. Centurytel is 90-120 days. Even when they 
 port they sometimes don't remove the numbers from their switch so any 
 centurytel customer that calls their numbers gets a ring with no answer. 
 They truly try everything possible to stop a port.

 Sent from my iPhone4

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 wrote:

 I know we ported a CenturyTel customer, I remember dealing with those
 idiots.  One of those ports that personify hell.

 You were probably better off.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where 
 Centurytel was the ilec.

 Sent from my iPhone4

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 wrote:

 For domestic we have...off hand...

 Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications,
 Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon

 Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
 wrote:
 Well right.  There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA.
 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion.  Only say 3
 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA.  Obviously
 all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I
 think I got the point across.

 Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is
 difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national
 providers.  Take Elizabeth, IL for example.  It hooks to the Freeport,
 IL tandem.  Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I
 checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there.  However, local
 companies BitWise and Aero are both there.  Both will sell you VoIP
 service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's
 network.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are 
 comparable.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike 
 Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  wrote:
 Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive 
 ports
 from that rate center.  They have to be on the same tandem switch and 
 may
 even be more restrictive than that.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.

 On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  
 wrote:
 The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of
 the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means 
 nothing.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:
 We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time
 finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can 
 markup
 and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?





 
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-30 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
With VOX, does your VoIP traffic traverse the Internet, or do/can you
get a cross connect with VOX?

-Kristian

On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 14:17 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
 It happens automatically every 30-60 days for their DID inventory
 process or something.  I do not have customers that will wait 30 days,
 so I call in and make sure they clear it up.  Almost always fixed
 within the day, maybe two.  I typically call it in in the morning and
 before I leave for the day call the customer on our PSTN line.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Alan Bryant
 a...@gtekcommunications.com wrote:
  We actually had that happen with Verizon once. It took two months for
  them to finally remove the number so that local customers could call.
 
  On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have ported lots of them in their clec area. It is always a problem. 
  Typical Att ports are 7-10 days. Centurytel is 90-120 days. Even when they 
  port they sometimes don't remove the numbers from their switch so any 
  centurytel customer that calls their numbers gets a ring with no answer. 
  They truly try everything possible to stop a port.
 
  Sent from my iPhone4
 
  On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
  wrote:
 
  I know we ported a CenturyTel customer, I remember dealing with those
  idiots.  One of those ports that personify hell.
 
  You were probably better off.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
  On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where 
  Centurytel was the ilec.
 
  Sent from my iPhone4
 
  On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
  wrote:
 
  For domestic we have...off hand...
 
  Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications,
  Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon
 
  Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
  On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett 
  wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
  Well right.  There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA.
  38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion.  Only say 3
  cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA.  Obviously
  all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I
  think I got the point across.
 
  Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is
  difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national
  providers.  Take Elizabeth, IL for example.  It hooks to the Freeport,
  IL tandem.  Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I
  checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there.  However, local
  companies BitWise and Aero are both there.  Both will sell you VoIP
  service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's
  network.
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are 
  comparable.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
  On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike 
  Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  wrote:
  Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive 
  ports
  from that rate center.  They have to be on the same tandem switch 
  and may
  even be more restrictive than that.
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
  On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 
  Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.
 
  On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  
  wrote:
  The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality 
  of
  the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means 
  nothing.
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
  On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:
  We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time
  finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can 
  markup
  and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?
 
 
 
 
 
  
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[WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Liam Cummings
We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding
a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and
resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?




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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman
We make something like 30 to 40 percent.  Happy with our service.
On Nov 29, 2010 9:29 PM, Liam Cummings lcummi...@datacomspecialists.com
wrote:
 We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time finding
 a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Jeremie Chism
VOX.  

Sent from my iPhone4

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wrote:

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 provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup and resell. 
 Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett
The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of 
the service) is local numbers.  Everything else relatively means nothing.


-
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On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:


We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time 
finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup 
and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?






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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.
On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of
 the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:

 We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time
 finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup
 and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?






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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Jeremie Chism
I think I have something like 10 numbers that weren't ported. Everything we do 
is port. 

Sent from my iPhone4

On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.
 
 On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
  The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of 
  the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing.
  
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
  
  
  
  On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:
 
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  finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup 
  and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports 
from that rate center.  They have to be on the same tandem switch and 
may even be more restrictive than that.


-
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On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.

On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:

 The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of
 the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:

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 finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup
 and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?




 


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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports
 from that rate center.  They have to be on the same tandem switch and may
 even be more restrictive than that.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.

 On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of
 the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:

 We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time
 finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup
 and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?





 
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Well right.  There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA.  
38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion.  Only say 3 
cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA.  Obviously 
all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I 
think I got the point across.

Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is 
difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national 
providers.  Take Elizabeth, IL for example.  It hooks to the Freeport, 
IL tandem.  Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I 
checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there.  However, local 
companies BitWise and Aero are both there.  Both will sell you VoIP 
service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's 
network.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  
 wrote:
 Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports
 from that rate center.  They have to be on the same tandem switch and may
 even be more restrictive than that.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.

 On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  wrote:
 The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of
 the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:
 We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time
 finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup
 and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?





 
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman
For domestic we have...off hand...

Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications,
Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon

Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Well right.  There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA.
 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion.  Only say 3
 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA.  Obviously
 all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I
 think I got the point across.

 Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is
 difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national
 providers.  Take Elizabeth, IL for example.  It hooks to the Freeport,
 IL tandem.  Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I
 checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there.  However, local
 companies BitWise and Aero are both there.  Both will sell you VoIP
 service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's
 network.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  
 wrote:
 Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports
 from that rate center.  They have to be on the same tandem switch and may
 even be more restrictive than that.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.

 On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  wrote:
 The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of
 the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:
 We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time
 finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup
 and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?





 
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Jeremie Chism
Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where 
Centurytel was the ilec. 

Sent from my iPhone4

On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 For domestic we have...off hand...
 
 Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications,
 Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon
 
 Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
 wrote:
 Well right.  There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA.
 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion.  Only say 3
 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA.  Obviously
 all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I
 think I got the point across.
 
 Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is
 difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national
 providers.  Take Elizabeth, IL for example.  It hooks to the Freeport,
 IL tandem.  Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I
 checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there.  However, local
 companies BitWise and Aero are both there.  Both will sell you VoIP
 service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's
 network.
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  
 wrote:
 Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports
 from that rate center.  They have to be on the same tandem switch and may
 even be more restrictive than that.
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 
 Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.
 
 On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  wrote:
 The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of
 the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing.
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:
 We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time
 finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup
 and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman
I know we ported a CenturyTel customer, I remember dealing with those
idiots.  One of those ports that personify hell.

You were probably better off.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where 
 Centurytel was the ilec.

 Sent from my iPhone4

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 For domestic we have...off hand...

 Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications,
 Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon

 Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
 wrote:
 Well right.  There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA.
 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion.  Only say 3
 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA.  Obviously
 all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I
 think I got the point across.

 Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is
 difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national
 providers.  Take Elizabeth, IL for example.  It hooks to the Freeport,
 IL tandem.  Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I
 checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there.  However, local
 companies BitWise and Aero are both there.  Both will sell you VoIP
 service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's
 network.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  
 wrote:
 Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports
 from that rate center.  They have to be on the same tandem switch and may
 even be more restrictive than that.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.

 On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  wrote:
 The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of
 the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:
 We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time
 finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup
 and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?





 
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Jeremie Chism
I have ported lots of them in their clec area. It is always a problem. Typical 
Att ports are 7-10 days. Centurytel is 90-120 days. Even when they port they 
sometimes don't remove the numbers from their switch so any centurytel customer 
that calls their numbers gets a ring with no answer. They truly try everything 
possible to stop a port. 

Sent from my iPhone4

On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 I know we ported a CenturyTel customer, I remember dealing with those
 idiots.  One of those ports that personify hell.
 
 You were probably better off.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where 
 Centurytel was the ilec.
 
 Sent from my iPhone4
 
 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 wrote:
 
 For domestic we have...off hand...
 
 Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications,
 Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon
 
 Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
 wrote:
 Well right.  There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA.
 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion.  Only say 3
 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA.  Obviously
 all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I
 think I got the point across.
 
 Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is
 difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national
 providers.  Take Elizabeth, IL for example.  It hooks to the Freeport,
 IL tandem.  Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I
 checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there.  However, local
 companies BitWise and Aero are both there.  Both will sell you VoIP
 service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's
 network.
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  
 wrote:
 Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports
 from that rate center.  They have to be on the same tandem switch and may
 even be more restrictive than that.
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 
 Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.
 
 On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  
 wrote:
 The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of
 the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing.
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:
 We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time
 finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup
 and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Ohio is a fairly well populated state.  (You may think not, but just 
wait until the next election to see how big Ohio is.)  More than likely 
multiple of those carriers service those areas.  I'm just trying to say 
that most WISPs that don't already have VoIP live areas that I guarantee 
you XO and Global Crossing couldn't find on a map with Google's help.

I thought Pac West folded when they ran out of money, but I guess not.  
I haven't looked at their penetration since then because of this.

Verizon depends on which part of the house is selling it this time.  
Verizon local doesn't really service much of anything after splitting 
Frontier and their New England businesses, and they've never really been 
fond of the MCI VoIP product.

etc., etc.

-
Mike Hammett
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http://www.ics-il.com



On 11/29/2010 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 For domestic we have...off hand...

 Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications,
 Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon

 Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net  
 wrote:
 Well right.  There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA.
 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion.  Only say 3
 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA.  Obviously
 all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I
 think I got the point across.

 Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is
 difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national
 providers.  Take Elizabeth, IL for example.  It hooks to the Freeport,
 IL tandem.  Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I
 checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there.  However, local
 companies BitWise and Aero are both there.  Both will sell you VoIP
 service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's
 network.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are comparable.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net
 wrote:
 Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive ports
 from that rate center.  They have to be on the same tandem switch and may
 even be more restrictive than that.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.

 On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net
 wrote:
 The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality of
 the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means nothing.

 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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 On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:
 We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time
 finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can markup
 and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?





 
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Verizon just sold out to Frontier around here.  It's routine to use the pstn
line and force them to update their switches.
On Nov 29, 2010 10:57 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have ported lots of them in their clec area. It is always a problem.
Typical Att ports are 7-10 days. Centurytel is 90-120 days. Even when they
port they sometimes don't remove the numbers from their switch so any
centurytel customer that calls their numbers gets a ring with no answer.
They truly try everything possible to stop a port.

 Sent from my iPhone4

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 I know we ported a CenturyTel customer, I remember dealing with those
 idiots. One of those ports that personify hell.

 You were probably better off.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Only place I couldn't port was a small town outside of Baton Rouge where
Centurytel was the ilec.

 Sent from my iPhone4

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 For domestic we have...off hand...

 Level3, Global Crossing, Pac West, XO, Paetec, One Communications,
 Broadvox, Com Partners, Verizon

 Between these carriers we've had 1 number we couldn't port.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mike Hammett 
wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Well right. There's 38746546574 VoIP carriers in Chicago's 358 LATA.
 38746546571 of them only cover the contiguous ATT portion. Only say 3
 cover the remaining ATT and Frontier portions of that LATA. Obviously
 all of these numbers were made up (other than the LATA number), but I
 think I got the point across.

 Most places where WISPs aren't already doing VoIP, VoIP coverage is
 difficult to obtain because of a lack of coverage with national
 providers. Take Elizabeth, IL for example. It hooks to the Freeport,
 IL tandem. Level 3 does have a presence in Freeport, but last I
 checked, their VoIP coverage did not extend there. However, local
 companies BitWise and Aero are both there. Both will sell you VoIP
 service, and you'll be hard pressed to find either on an aggregator's
 network.

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 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 9:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Our provider has a dozen carriers or more, I expect others are
comparable.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mike Hammett
wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Porting only works if the receiving LEC has the ability to receive
ports
 from that rate center. They have to be on the same tandem switch and
may
 even be more restrictive than that.

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 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


 On 11/29/2010 9:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Somewhere at least 90% of out customers ported their numbers.

 On Nov 29, 2010 10:12 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.net
wrote:
 The second most important thing about VoIP (aside from the quality
of
 the service) is local numbers. Everything else relatively means
nothing.

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 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 On 11/29/2010 8:07 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:
 We are looking to start offering VOIP but are having a hard time
 finding a provider that offers a service at a price that we can
markup
 and resell. Anyone know of a good VOIP provider?







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[WISPA] VOIP Provider

2008-09-04 Thread Joshua Rowe
It seems to me that there was another, or maybe several other, VOIP providers
mentioned in a previous post that offers reseller packages but does not
require the $2500 initial deposit that VOX requires but offered similar
services. Would someone please help jog my mind?

Thanks!

Josh Rowe
--
NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com




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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2008-09-04 Thread Joe Miller
Joshua,

I use www.leasedminds.com and did not have to deal with the deposits or 
anything else for that matter. His name is Graham Wooden. His phone number is 
on his web site. 

Again, I am very happy with his company. He goes above and beyond for his 
customers. He also has reseller agreements in place.

Good Luck,


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 From: Joshua Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [WISPA] VOIP Provider
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 11:33 AM
 It seems to me that there was another, or maybe several
 other, VOIP providers
 mentioned in a previous post that offers reseller packages
 but does not
 require the $2500 initial deposit that VOX requires but
 offered similar
 services. Would someone please help jog my mind?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Josh Rowe
 --
 NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] VOIP Provider

2008-09-04 Thread Mac Dearman
Josh,

 Try these folks;http://www.aretta.com/ 

I have no personal experience with them, but have several WISP buddies who
proclaim they are great. You will have options with them. 

Mac


 

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 It seems to me that there was another, or maybe several other, VOIP
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 mentioned in a previous post that offers reseller packages but does not
 require the $2500 initial deposit that VOX requires but offered similar
 services. Would someone please help jog my mind?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Josh Rowe
 --
 NexGenAccess Inc. http://www.nexgenaccess.com
 
 
 
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