RE: [WISPA] Why the STA George?
George, why do you have an STA application pending? What are your plans for the gear? What is the experiment you will be performing? Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? Patrick Leary wrote: You are trying to wind me up aren't you George? :) :) Well maybe a bit, but some of us have our 3650 aps in. Just figuring your a wealth of information and I knew you would expand upon this. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(43). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Why the STA George?
First, lets clear things up. I already know that we are not supposed to use it as part of our network, regardless of what others might think. We have already heard someone else say other wise on a different list as part of a different organization. So, for me, it's to experiment with and to see what kinds of results I can get. I am going to use it personally in a variety of different fashions. We hired Kris months ago and we've paid him to handle our application. I'm sure we will have to alter our application now that these guys have George Patrick Leary wrote: George, why do you have an STA application pending? What are your plans for the gear? What is the experiment you will be performing? Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? Patrick Leary wrote: You are trying to wind me up aren't you George? :) :) Well maybe a bit, but some of us have our 3650 aps in. Just figuring your a wealth of information and I knew you would expand upon this. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Why the STA George?
George, to the extent that this thread contributes to myth quashing (a never ending task in this business), it is all good, as the colloquialism goes. Be careful though. STA's are not designed for every WISP out there to discover the same thing and the body of knowledge about how 3.65 propagates is well understood. For sure in the end it is the FCC itself that issues the STA, and they choose to accept or not and Kris certainly knows what he is doing. We'll all be better off when the limbo that is this band is finally decided upon. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the STA George? First, lets clear things up. I already know that we are not supposed to use it as part of our network, regardless of what others might think. We have already heard someone else say other wise on a different list as part of a different organization. So, for me, it's to experiment with and to see what kinds of results I can get. I am going to use it personally in a variety of different fashions. We hired Kris months ago and we've paid him to handle our application. I'm sure we will have to alter our application now that these guys have George Patrick Leary wrote: George, why do you have an STA application pending? What are your plans for the gear? What is the experiment you will be performing? Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650, ok, so what's current status? Patrick Leary wrote: You are trying to wind me up aren't you George? :) :) Well maybe a bit, but some of us have our 3650 aps in. Just figuring your a wealth of information and I knew you would expand upon this. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(43). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Why the STA George?
It's actually a very good thread. Just think of those who heard some one else last year say they were using their for backhaul... Now they know better. These new cards, which have actually been talked about for quite some time, will help some of the guys (the RF Gearheads) to do more experimenting because they cost less than a redline, etc. Lets hope this time, the manufacturer acts responsibly and doesn't just sell them to just anyone with a cc. George Patrick Leary wrote: George, to the extent that this thread contributes to myth quashing (a never ending task in this business), it is all good, as the colloquialism goes. Be careful though. STA's are not designed for every WISP out there to discover the same thing and the body of knowledge about how 3.65 propagates is well understood. For sure in the end it is the FCC itself that issues the STA, and they choose to accept or not and Kris certainly knows what he is doing. We'll all be better off when the limbo that is this band is finally decided upon. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. Well maybe a bit, but some of us have our 3650 aps in. Just figuring your a wealth of information and I knew you would expand upon this. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Why the STA George?
... Now they know better. Alas, we can, and I always do, hope that people learn. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the STA George? It's actually a very good thread. Just think of those who heard some one else last year say they were using their for backhaul... Now they know better. These new cards, which have actually been talked about for quite some time, will help some of the guys (the RF Gearheads) to do more experimenting because they cost less than a redline, etc. Lets hope this time, the manufacturer acts responsibly and doesn't just sell them to just anyone with a cc. George Patrick Leary wrote: George, to the extent that this thread contributes to myth quashing (a never ending task in this business), it is all good, as the colloquialism goes. Be careful though. STA's are not designed for every WISP out there to discover the same thing and the body of knowledge about how 3.65 propagates is well understood. For sure in the end it is the FCC itself that issues the STA, and they choose to accept or not and Kris certainly knows what he is doing. We'll all be better off when the limbo that is this band is finally decided upon. Patrick This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Why the STA George?
Patrick Leary wrote: ... Now they know better. Alas, we can, and I always do, hope that people learn. That is the whole point of these lists. To educate and help wisps understand better. What good is a dormant list? Some may think that a lot of these posts are just talk and hopefully many will see the value of the information buried in here. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Why the STA George?
George Rogato wrote: Lets hope this time, the manufacturer acts responsibly and doesn't just sell them to just anyone with a cc. I didn't think a radio vendor was allowed to sell a product for use with an experimental license. I thought the radio vendor could only let you use the radio for the period of the experiment and then you had to give it back. We'd had a 3.65 experimental license for over a year now and I have never been able to buy a radio for it. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Why the STA George?
That's why operator-acquired STAs are usually worked cooperatively with vendors, i.e. the vendor is looking for the operator to perform specific real world tests for the purposes of product validation, refinement, etc. Even when I've received an STA for demonstrating 3.x GHz product in a show setting I've been required to post a prominent sign that reads, and I quote: Special Conditions: (4) Alvarion shall post a sign indicating: a.) This is European equipment not for use in the USA. b.) Alvarion version will be available using an approved FCC radio frequency band. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the STA George? George Rogato wrote: Lets hope this time, the manufacturer acts responsibly and doesn't just sell them to just anyone with a cc. I didn't think a radio vendor was allowed to sell a product for use with an experimental license. I thought the radio vendor could only let you use the radio for the period of the experiment and then you had to give it back. We'd had a 3.65 experimental license for over a year now and I have never been able to buy a radio for it. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Why the STA George?
Patrick Leary wrote: That's why operator-acquired STAs are usually worked cooperatively with vendors, i.e. the vendor is looking for the operator to perform specific real world tests for the purposes of product validation, refinement, etc. Sure... we just had to give the radios back afterwards and no money changed hands. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
