Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov
I do advise makes your domain and www subdomain point to the website as well as any subdomains with their www counterpart (ie, speed.inxwireless.com and www.speed.inxwireless.com) Drives me nuts, too. How can it bother you that the PoE is actually a modem now? Don't you see the modulation/demodulation?! Can't you hear that noise... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtqz0bdq30Q Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer 2009/3/25 Rick Kunze > On 3/25/2009 6:22 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote: > > That is screwed up! Both SHOULD go to the same domain. > > They are the same domain. You probably mean same IP address? > > Actually though, according to the RFC's, this is not correct. > Traditionally, although not these days, www should point to the web site > but the domain name by itself should point to the mail server. The > reasons for this are largely moot now though. These days the average > sysadmin points both the domain and the www alias to the web site. But > his is not "right" from an RFC standpoint. I finally caved in myself > and did this too, since there are so many people out there who don't > realize that omitting the www may render a blank page. > > Then again, most of those same people call any CPE a "modem" which > really makes me grind my teeth! > > Rk > > > > > -- Original Message -- > > From: Josh Luthman > > Reply-To: WISPA General List > > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:26:35 -0400 > > > >> Guys... > >> > >> http://www.ccr.gov > >> > >> You need the www > >> > >> www.ccr.gov resolves 64.136.241.42 > >> > >> ccr.gov resolves 208.69.36.132 > >> > >> Josh Luthman > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> 1100 Wayne St > >> Suite 1337 > >> Troy, OH 45373 > >> > >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > >> --- Henry Spencer > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Don Grossman > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Have you called you ISP or network administrator? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sorry, couldn't pass this one up only because this sounds sooo much > >>> like something our customers would say. > >>> > >>> On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >>> > >>>> It's big and important. That's the web site for all government > >>>> types to > >>>> find their suppliers. > >>>> > >>>> It's been down all morning (since about 8am pacific anyway). It's > >>>> 12:30 now > >>>> and still broken. > >>>> > >>>> marlon > >>>> > >>>> - Original Message - > >>>> From: "David E. Smith" > >>>> To: "WISPA General List" > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:14 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This seems to be offline. Can ANYONE get to it? > >>>>> dig +trace ccr.gov says its DNS servers are broken. > >>>>> > >>>>> If it's big and important it'll get fixed soon enough. > >>>>> > >>>>> David Smith > >>>>> MVN.net > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> I find that people who advocate for tolerance are the least tolerant > >>> people. > >>> unknown > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>> > >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listin
Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov
Actually the CPE is a modem, since a modem is a MOdulator/DEModulator. It still modulates the digital data pulse to the analog radio signal and demodulates the analog signal to digital data. Rick Kunze wrote: > On 3/25/2009 6:22 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote: > >> That is screwed up! Both SHOULD go to the same domain. >> > > They are the same domain. You probably mean same IP address? > > Actually though, according to the RFC's, this is not correct. > Traditionally, although not these days, www should point to the web site > but the domain name by itself should point to the mail server. The > reasons for this are largely moot now though. These days the average > sysadmin points both the domain and the www alias to the web site. But > his is not "right" from an RFC standpoint. I finally caved in myself > and did this too, since there are so many people out there who don't > realize that omitting the www may render a blank page. > > Then again, most of those same people call any CPE a "modem" which > really makes me grind my teeth! > > Rk > > >> -- Original Message -- >> From: Josh Luthman >> Reply-To: WISPA General List >> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:26:35 -0400 >> >> >>> Guys... >>> >>> http://www.ccr.gov >>> >>> You need the www >>> >>> www.ccr.gov resolves 64.136.241.42 >>> >>> ccr.gov resolves 208.69.36.132 >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >>> --- Henry Spencer >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Don Grossman >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Have you called you ISP or network administrator? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry, couldn't pass this one up only because this sounds sooo much >>>> like something our customers would say. >>>> >>>> On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> It's big and important. That's the web site for all government >>>>> types to >>>>> find their suppliers. >>>>> >>>>> It's been down all morning (since about 8am pacific anyway). It's >>>>> 12:30 now >>>>> and still broken. >>>>> >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: "David E. Smith" >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:14 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This seems to be offline. Can ANYONE get to it? >>>>>>> >>>>>> dig +trace ccr.gov says its DNS servers are broken. >>>>>> >>>>>> If it's big and important it'll get fixed soon enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> David Smith >>>>>> MVN.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> I find that people who advocate for tolerance are the least tolerant >>>> people. >>>> unknown >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ &g
Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov
lol yeah At least it's back up today! - Original Message - From: "Don Grossman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov > > > Have you called you ISP or network administrator? > > > > Sorry, couldn't pass this one up only because this sounds sooo much > like something our customers would say. > > On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >> It's big and important. That's the web site for all government >> types to >> find their suppliers. >> >> It's been down all morning (since about 8am pacific anyway). It's >> 12:30 now >> and still broken. >> >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "David E. Smith" >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov >> >> >>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> This seems to be offline. Can ANYONE get to it? >>> >>> dig +trace ccr.gov says its DNS servers are broken. >>> >>> If it's big and important it'll get fixed soon enough. >>> >>> David Smith >>> MVN.net >>> >>> >>> >>> > > I find that people who advocate for tolerance are the least tolerant > people. > unknown > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov
On 3/25/2009 6:22 AM, Scottie Arnett wrote: > That is screwed up! Both SHOULD go to the same domain. They are the same domain. You probably mean same IP address? Actually though, according to the RFC's, this is not correct. Traditionally, although not these days, www should point to the web site but the domain name by itself should point to the mail server. The reasons for this are largely moot now though. These days the average sysadmin points both the domain and the www alias to the web site. But his is not "right" from an RFC standpoint. I finally caved in myself and did this too, since there are so many people out there who don't realize that omitting the www may render a blank page. Then again, most of those same people call any CPE a "modem" which really makes me grind my teeth! Rk > > -- Original Message -- > From: Josh Luthman > Reply-To: WISPA General List > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:26:35 -0400 > >> Guys... >> >> http://www.ccr.gov >> >> You need the www >> >> www.ccr.gov resolves 64.136.241.42 >> >> ccr.gov resolves 208.69.36.132 >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >> --- Henry Spencer >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Don Grossman wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Have you called you ISP or network administrator? >>> >>> >>> >>> Sorry, couldn't pass this one up only because this sounds sooo much >>> like something our customers would say. >>> >>> On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> >>>> It's big and important. That's the web site for all government >>>> types to >>>> find their suppliers. >>>> >>>> It's been down all morning (since about 8am pacific anyway). It's >>>> 12:30 now >>>> and still broken. >>>> >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "David E. Smith" >>>> To: "WISPA General List" >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:14 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov >>>> >>>> >>>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> This seems to be offline. Can ANYONE get to it? >>>>> dig +trace ccr.gov says its DNS servers are broken. >>>>> >>>>> If it's big and important it'll get fixed soon enough. >>>>> >>>>> David Smith >>>>> MVN.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> I find that people who advocate for tolerance are the least tolerant >>> people. >>> unknown >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. > Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov
That is screwed up! Both SHOULD go to the same domain. -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:26:35 -0400 >Guys... > >http://www.ccr.gov > >You need the www > >www.ccr.gov resolves 64.136.241.42 > >ccr.gov resolves 208.69.36.132 > >Josh Luthman >Office: 937-552-2340 >Direct: 937-552-2343 >1100 Wayne St >Suite 1337 >Troy, OH 45373 > >Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >--- Henry Spencer > > >On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Don Grossman wrote: > >> >> >> Have you called you ISP or network administrator? >> >> >> >> Sorry, couldn't pass this one up only because this sounds sooo much >> like something our customers would say. >> >> On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >> > It's big and important. That's the web site for all government >> > types to >> > find their suppliers. >> > >> > It's been down all morning (since about 8am pacific anyway). It's >> > 12:30 now >> > and still broken. >> > >> > marlon >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "David E. Smith" >> > To: "WISPA General List" >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:14 PM >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov >> > >> > >> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >> >>> >> >>> This seems to be offline. Can ANYONE get to it? >> >> >> >> dig +trace ccr.gov says its DNS servers are broken. >> >> >> >> If it's big and important it'll get fixed soon enough. >> >> >> >> David Smith >> >> MVN.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I find that people who advocate for tolerance are the least tolerant >> people. >> unknown >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov
True, but neither resolved this morning...to anything. Those who were involved in the dialog were correct...the DNS was broken to that domain and all relative domains. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov Guys... http://www.ccr.gov You need the www www.ccr.gov resolves 64.136.241.42 ccr.gov resolves 208.69.36.132 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Don Grossman wrote: > > > Have you called you ISP or network administrator? > > > > Sorry, couldn't pass this one up only because this sounds sooo much > like something our customers would say. > > On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > > > It's big and important. That's the web site for all government > > types to find their suppliers. > > > > It's been down all morning (since about 8am pacific anyway). It's > > 12:30 now and still broken. > > > > marlon > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "David E. Smith" > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov > > > > > >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> This seems to be offline. Can ANYONE get to it? > >> > >> dig +trace ccr.gov says its DNS servers are broken. > >> > >> If it's big and important it'll get fixed soon enough. > >> > >> David Smith > >> MVN.net > >> > >> > >> > >> > > I find that people who advocate for tolerance are the least tolerant > people. > unknown > > > > > -- > -- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov
Guys... http://www.ccr.gov You need the www www.ccr.gov resolves 64.136.241.42 ccr.gov resolves 208.69.36.132 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Don Grossman wrote: > > > Have you called you ISP or network administrator? > > > > Sorry, couldn't pass this one up only because this sounds sooo much > like something our customers would say. > > On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > > > It's big and important. That's the web site for all government > > types to > > find their suppliers. > > > > It's been down all morning (since about 8am pacific anyway). It's > > 12:30 now > > and still broken. > > > > marlon > > > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "David E. Smith" > > To: "WISPA General List" > > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov > > > > > >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> This seems to be offline. Can ANYONE get to it? > >> > >> dig +trace ccr.gov says its DNS servers are broken. > >> > >> If it's big and important it'll get fixed soon enough. > >> > >> David Smith > >> MVN.net > >> > >> > >> > >> > > I find that people who advocate for tolerance are the least tolerant > people. > unknown > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov
Have you called you ISP or network administrator? Sorry, couldn't pass this one up only because this sounds sooo much like something our customers would say. On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > It's big and important. That's the web site for all government > types to > find their suppliers. > > It's been down all morning (since about 8am pacific anyway). It's > 12:30 now > and still broken. > > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "David E. Smith" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:14 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov > > >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> This seems to be offline. Can ANYONE get to it? >> >> dig +trace ccr.gov says its DNS servers are broken. >> >> If it's big and important it'll get fixed soon enough. >> >> David Smith >> MVN.net >> >> >> >> I find that people who advocate for tolerance are the least tolerant people. unknown WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov
It's big and important. That's the web site for all government types to find their suppliers. It's been down all morning (since about 8am pacific anyway). It's 12:30 now and still broken. marlon - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> This seems to be offline. Can ANYONE get to it? > > dig +trace ccr.gov says its DNS servers are broken. > > If it's big and important it'll get fixed soon enough. > > David Smith > MVN.net > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Hi All, > > This seems to be offline. Can ANYONE get to it? dig +trace ccr.gov says its DNS servers are broken. If it's big and important it'll get fixed soon enough. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ccr.gov
Looks like the website isn't resolving... Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:09 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: [WISPA] ccr.gov > >Hi All, > >This seems to be offline. Can ANYONE get to it? >marlon > > > > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ccr.gov
Hi All, This seems to be offline. Can ANYONE get to it? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
