New U.S. Push to Regulate Internet Access
By AMY SCHATZ
WASHINGTON-In a move that will stoke a battle over the future of the
Internet, the federal government plans to propose regulating broadband lines
under decades-old rules designed for traditional phone networks.
The decision, by Federal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703961104575226583645448758.html
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Opinion: It won't be good.
Also, the financial reform currently contains a provision that requires
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approved by an as yet not created federal agency.
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But THEY are going to get one, and I doubt you or I will see that change during
our lifetime.
Scottie
-- Original Message --
From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:42:57 -0500
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 13:29 -0600, Scottie Arnett
Finally someone in the major press willing to call a spade a spade.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
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] From Today's WSJ
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 13:29 -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote:
If they are giving them some form of subsidy to build these
networks, then I think we should have access to use it too.
This is the wrong way to view it, though. I'm not looking to argue the
point, but want to address
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Scottie, the problem is nothing at all to do with open access.This
open access has the effect of fixing the type of access. Once you
build a network, and a third party mandates you share it at prices they set,
no more networks will be built
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Did they even give the open access a chance even back then? This was the
start for the end of the dial-up ISP's. Do they not remember the end of
line sharing in the early 2000's? The throw-off of what the big players
did not think would ever succeed
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 13:29 -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote:
If they are giving them some form of subsidy to build these
networks, then I think we should have access to use it too.
This is the wrong way to view it, though. I'm not looking to argue the
point, but want to address this in a
Either way you put it suggests that capitalism is being destroyed.
On 3/16/10, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 13:29 -0600, Scottie Arnett wrote:
If they are giving them some form of subsidy to build these
networks, then I think we should have access to use it
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Broadband Trojan Horse
The FCC has a new plan but doesn't want a vote.
Health care isn't the only policy arena in which the Obama Administration
aims to ram through controversial new rules. The Federal Communications
Commission is set to unveil a national broadband
It's those damn communists. They're on the march again. Quick, man the
barricades!
Wait, I'm wrong. It's ATT and Verizon. They're on the march again.
Quick, open the gates to the City.
Jeff Broadwick wrote:
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Broadband Trojan Horse
The FCC has a new plan but
.
Patrick Leary
A veteran
An American, like many of you
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 1:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
It's those damn communists. They're on the march again. Quick, man the
barricades!
Wait, I'm wrong. It's ATT and Verizon. They're
the Baltic republics circa early 1990's.
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Wow, Jack and Patrick
: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Hi Jeff,
Mine was not a return bomb to you Jeff, just a general comment about the
state of our society. To be sure though it was not a news article, it
was an opinion piece and one, in my opinion, laden with the codes du
jour intended to drive people apart into one camp
Do not feed the trolls :)
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:
It's those damn communists. They're on the march again. Quick, man the
barricades!
Wait, I'm wrong. It's ATT and Verizon. They're on the march again.
Quick, open the gates to the City.
Jeff
] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Hi Jeff,
Mine was not a return bomb to you Jeff, just a general comment about the
state of our society. To be sure though it was not a news article, it was an
opinion piece
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 9:16 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Hi Patrick,
I'm sorry. My note was more directed at my good friend Jack than at you.
:-)
I'm not a fan of the government's intervention
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
It's those damn communists
++
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From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:19 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
A misplaced personal opinion rant:
The new United States, where everything is written
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Did they even give the open access a chance even back then? This was the
start for the end of the dial-up ISP's. Do they not remember the end of
line sharing in the early 2000's? The throw-off of what the big players
did not think would ever succeed, being
WE collectively NEED handouts from the taxpayers? Like hell we do. All we
need is some guts and a willingness to actually risk a bit for what we
actually believe in.
I think you meant DO WE collectively NEED handouts from the taxpayers? like
hell we do not need them.
@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
That is my point. Over my lifetime, I've done a lot of moving and
traveling.
What I find is that some areas are not as progressive as others - and they
want it that way. Why do the Feds think they know whats best for these
areas? Dont
General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
In my 3 county area that I was developing an application for, there were
25,000 households without access to service and in one of those counties I
was only covering the lower
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
In my 3 county area that I was developing an application for, there
were
25,000 households without access to service and in one of those
counties I
was only
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
In my 3 county area that I was developing an application for, there
were
25,000 households
@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Marlon,
Read this take rate brief I wrote with one of the data companies I work
with. It will take you about 10 minutes. It goes in to specific detail of
how the study was conducted and the sources
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Right
: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
So, the salient points are, as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong):
(1) Brian's numbers are 24 million currently HAVE NO ACCESS TO SERVICE.
His number DOES NOT INCLUDE the number who have access but have chosen
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Actually, from where I'm sitting, it seems like roll-outs have slowed
dramatically as people
that number shrinks steadily...
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From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:22 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
I won't comment on the first parts
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
...
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From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:21 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Our rollouts have slowed but only because demand has dropped off.
Those that want
,
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
So, the salient points are, as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong):
(1
in it!
Man I could be making a lot more money if I lived nearly anywhere else!
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
You've got an area with 25k households close by and you don't have anything
in there? No one else has anything there either?
That's 2.5 times MORE than my ENTIRE COUNTY has in it!
Man I could be making a lot more money if I lived nearly anywhere else!
marlon
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Until you have to deal with the trees and mountains he has too :-)
Thank You,
Brian Webster
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, January 21
: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com jun...@ask-wi.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:27 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Right: The Technology Policy Institute notes that at the current rates of
broadband adoption the U.S. is behind
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
So, the salient points are, as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong):
(1) Brian's numbers are 24 million currently HAVE NO ACCESS TO SERVICE.
His number DOES NOT INCLUDE the number who have access but have chosen
not
to subscribe.
(2) You
t; jun...@ask-wi.com jun...@ask-wi.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:27 AM
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 o
Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
In my 3 county area that I was developing an application for, there were
25,000 households without access to service and in one
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703652104574652501608376552.ht
ml?mod=WSJ_Opinion_AboveLEFTTop
* REVIEW OUTLOOK
* JANUARY 20, 2010
A 'National Broadband Plan'
One more solution in search of a problem.
The Federal Communications Commission recently told Congress that it
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadband. The WSJ is merely a mouthpiece
(especially now that Rupurt Murdoch owns it) for the telcos.
jack
Jeff Broadwick
20, 2010 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadband. The WSJ is merely a mouthpiece
(especially now that Rupurt
@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadband. The WSJ is merely a mouthpiece
(especially now that Rupurt Murdoch owns
2010 10:27 AM
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadban
] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadband. The WSJ is merely a mouthpiece
(especially now that Rupurt Murdoch owns it) for the telcos.
jack
Jeff
eff
Jeff Broadwick
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fro
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sure coverage is increasing but that's just a distraction. The issue is
that the current level of home broadband Internet access is way too low and
millions of people are deprived of Internet
http://www.wispa.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Jack.JPG
:-p
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sure coverage is increasing
List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sure coverage is increasing but that's just a distraction. The issue is
that the current level of home broadband Internet access is way too low and
millions of people are deprived of Internet access at home (or in a
home-based business). The article
OK, as I understand that the report is based upon the 477 data?
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Jack Unger
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Marlon,
See the attached report. Go to Table 2 on page
Nice teddy bear!
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
http://www.wispa.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/Jack.JPG
:-p
teddy bear!
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett" wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
http://www.wispa.org/wp-content
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households
Of Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadband
, January 20, 2010 12:16 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sure coverage is increasing but that's just a distraction. The issue is
that the current level of home broadband Internet access is way too low and
millions of people are deprived of Internet access at home
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
OK, as I understand that the report is based upon the 477 data?
marlon
- Original Message
...@wirelessmapping.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Marlon,
Read this take rate brief I wrote with one of the data companies I work
with. It will take you about 10 minutes. It goes in to specific detail of
how the study
:27 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million occupied American
households have no access to broadband. The WSJ is merely a mouthpiece
the marketing data at the census
block level prior to July.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
-Original Message-
From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:46 PM
To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Heya
.
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From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:27 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry but this article (accidentally or intentionally) misses or (more
likely) ignores the point that 24 or more million
he growth of actual data moved... The percentage increase every
month is near or at double digits.
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From: "Jack Unger" jun...@ask-wi.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:27 AM
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
S
is near or at double digits.
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From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com jun...@ask-wi.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:27 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Sorry
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From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:58 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Is that directly off the pages of the Democrat
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Congress Approves Broadband to Nowhere
Why the U.S. lags in Internet speed.
*
By L. GORDON CROVITZ
In Japan, wireless technology works so well that teenagers draft novels on
their cellphones. People in Hong Kong take it for granted that they can
check their BlackBerrys from
General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:38 AM
Subject: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Congress Approves Broadband to Nowhere
Why the U.S. lags in Internet speed.
*
By L. GORDON CROVITZ
In Japan, wireless technology works so well that teenagers draft novels
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
I'd like to ponit out that the article leaves out some information, and it
leaves you with a false impression because of it. It made note of the
price of broadband being cheaper in Japan and other places. That's
true,
but much
Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:38 AM
Subject: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Congress Approves Broadband to Nowhere
Why the U.S. lags in Internet speed.
*
By L. GORDON CROVITZ
In Japan, wireless technology
broadband component.
Jeff
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Most of the innuendos and descriptions were ill
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:28 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Agreed, I don't like the international comparisons because they are
apples/oranges. It's not fair to compare
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
I'd like to ponit out that the article
] On
Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:39 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
Congress Approves Broadband to Nowhere
Why the U.S. lags in Internet speed.
*
By L. GORDON CROVITZ
In Japan, wireless technology works so well that teenagers
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Purblind Auction
February 7, 2008; Page A18
The Federal Communications Commission is bragging about its latest wireless
auction, with total bids of more than $19 billion after two weeks. But dig
beneath those numbers and the picture is less rosy.
This wireless
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ
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Purblind Auction
February 7
Note the Wireless portion of the growth from last year:
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Broadband Breakout
February 16, 2007; Page A14
I love the free market, but the fact is more concentration means less
competition, and these markets are less free than they should be. And this
Commission is about
Jeff,
Who wrote this?
One fact worth noting is the wireless number. It mostly means cellular.
Cellular is not a third competitor.
- Peter
Jeff Broadwick wrote:
Note the Wireless portion of the growth from last year:
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February 16, 2007; Page
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