Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?

2008-08-02 Thread Eric Rogers
Actually,

They didn't remove the IP helpers, they are built in.  Try something for
me.  If you go to the IP>Firewall>Service Ports page, disable (not
delete) the PPtP port and see if that makes a difference.  I had to
disable the SIP one to allow SIP via the NAT interface.

Let me know if it works.

Eric

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Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?

In forums.mikrotik.com I found this...

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=21095&p=107469&hilit=nat+p
ptp+helper#p107469

It looks like there is an issue since 3.0 that they have removed IP
Helpers.  I will keep looking.

Eric


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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?

Yes I have that enabled already.  In fact, on other MT systems that
carry
the backhaul (no firewall or nat) I also enabled this just to be safe.
Version 2.9.x has a helper for GRE and PPtP, version 3.x only has PPtP,
in
these firewall 'helpers'.  My border system is version 3.10.  I need to
make
progress on this issue, since a couple customers have gone into town to
other hotspots and have no trouble, so my "network is to blame".

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Eric Rogers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> In your Mikrotik "Service Ports" tab (under IP > Firewall), be sure
that
> PPtP is enabled.  That is your PPtP Helper to allow it to pass via the
> MT NAT.  Don't have a clue as to why you would need it unless it
allows
> other ports through (GRE or something).
>
> Eric Rogers
> Precision Data Solutions, LLC
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:53 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?
>
> All,
>
> I have a fully routed network behind a MT border gateway that does nat
> for
> most residential customers.  Recently, I am hearing more rumblings
about
> customers with pptp VPNs having problems.  From what I undersand,
isn't
> PPPTP supposed to be NAT friendly??  Is there something inherent about
> it
> that would prevent multiple client connections from behind the same
nat?
> In
> our case, the customer has a home router (nat) and the border router
> connected to fiber also does nat.  All tips and network wisdom is
> appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Marshall
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?

2008-08-02 Thread Eric Rogers
In forums.mikrotik.com I found this...

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=21095&p=107469&hilit=nat+p
ptp+helper#p107469

It looks like there is an issue since 3.0 that they have removed IP
Helpers.  I will keep looking.

Eric


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?

Yes I have that enabled already.  In fact, on other MT systems that
carry
the backhaul (no firewall or nat) I also enabled this just to be safe.
Version 2.9.x has a helper for GRE and PPtP, version 3.x only has PPtP,
in
these firewall 'helpers'.  My border system is version 3.10.  I need to
make
progress on this issue, since a couple customers have gone into town to
other hotspots and have no trouble, so my "network is to blame".

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Eric Rogers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> In your Mikrotik "Service Ports" tab (under IP > Firewall), be sure
that
> PPtP is enabled.  That is your PPtP Helper to allow it to pass via the
> MT NAT.  Don't have a clue as to why you would need it unless it
allows
> other ports through (GRE or something).
>
> Eric Rogers
> Precision Data Solutions, LLC
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:53 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?
>
> All,
>
> I have a fully routed network behind a MT border gateway that does nat
> for
> most residential customers.  Recently, I am hearing more rumblings
about
> customers with pptp VPNs having problems.  From what I undersand,
isn't
> PPPTP supposed to be NAT friendly??  Is there something inherent about
> it
> that would prevent multiple client connections from behind the same
nat?
> In
> our case, the customer has a home router (nat) and the border router
> connected to fiber also does nat.  All tips and network wisdom is
> appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Marshall
>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?

2008-08-01 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
Yes I have that enabled already.  In fact, on other MT systems that carry
the backhaul (no firewall or nat) I also enabled this just to be safe.
Version 2.9.x has a helper for GRE and PPtP, version 3.x only has PPtP, in
these firewall 'helpers'.  My border system is version 3.10.  I need to make
progress on this issue, since a couple customers have gone into town to
other hotspots and have no trouble, so my "network is to blame".

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Eric Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> In your Mikrotik "Service Ports" tab (under IP > Firewall), be sure that
> PPtP is enabled.  That is your PPtP Helper to allow it to pass via the
> MT NAT.  Don't have a clue as to why you would need it unless it allows
> other ports through (GRE or something).
>
> Eric Rogers
> Precision Data Solutions, LLC
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:53 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?
>
> All,
>
> I have a fully routed network behind a MT border gateway that does nat
> for
> most residential customers.  Recently, I am hearing more rumblings about
> customers with pptp VPNs having problems.  From what I undersand, isn't
> PPPTP supposed to be NAT friendly??  Is there something inherent about
> it
> that would prevent multiple client connections from behind the same nat?
> In
> our case, the customer has a home router (nat) and the border router
> connected to fiber also does nat.  All tips and network wisdom is
> appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Marshall
>
>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?

2008-08-01 Thread Eric Rogers
In your Mikrotik "Service Ports" tab (under IP > Firewall), be sure that
PPtP is enabled.  That is your PPtP Helper to allow it to pass via the
MT NAT.  Don't have a clue as to why you would need it unless it allows
other ports through (GRE or something).

Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:53 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?

All,

I have a fully routed network behind a MT border gateway that does nat
for
most residential customers.  Recently, I am hearing more rumblings about
customers with pptp VPNs having problems.  From what I undersand, isn't
PPPTP supposed to be NAT friendly??  Is there something inherent about
it
that would prevent multiple client connections from behind the same nat?
In
our case, the customer has a home router (nat) and the border router
connected to fiber also does nat.  All tips and network wisdom is
appreciated!

Thanks,
Marshall




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[WISPA] multiple PPPTP vpn clients behind NAT, tips?

2008-08-01 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
All,

I have a fully routed network behind a MT border gateway that does nat for
most residential customers.  Recently, I am hearing more rumblings about
customers with pptp VPNs having problems.  From what I undersand, isn't
PPPTP supposed to be NAT friendly??  Is there something inherent about it
that would prevent multiple client connections from behind the same nat?  In
our case, the customer has a home router (nat) and the border router
connected to fiber also does nat.  All tips and network wisdom is
appreciated!

Thanks,
Marshall



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