Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-29 Thread Christopher Erickson
The best way to design an off-grid radio system is to take advantage of every chance you find to avoid having to generate a watt in the first place. Two drop-in replacement, high-efficiency voltage regulator devices that can help to that end: http://store.gravitech.us/312v1aswvore.html

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-29 Thread Mike
That's one point I was making with my fuzzy math repeater example. :-) I think the Wili card radios in that repeater system will operate down to 7V. I may need more than toys if I tried to use legacy 48V stuff and the resultant voltage conversions. At 10:08 AM 8/29/2009, you wrote: The best

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-28 Thread Scott Parsons
-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-DCDC-1248eq=Tp= Regards, Scott -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Erickson Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site 48VDC

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread os10rules
, August 26, 2009 9:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I'm not sure I buy into your math. If I have a repeater site that is pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right? If I have 60W of solar panel (2 toys) then when conditions are optimal

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread os10rules
]on Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I don't think his 24 hours of sun number meant in one 24 hour period. I think he meant 24 hours of sun cumulative over 33 days. No? Greg On Aug 27, 2009, at 12

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I don't think his 24 hours of sun number meant in one 24 hour period. I think he meant 24 hours

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Of Mike Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I'm not sure I buy into your math. If I have a repeater site that is pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right? If I have 60W of solar panel (2 toys) then when

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Chuck Hogg
Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Chuck, Current

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Mike Hammett
christopher.k.erick...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:57 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Could be but that isn't right either. 24 hours of daylight is not the same as 24 hours of full current charging. The Sun rises and the Sun sets

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Terry Hickey
Good information http://www.solar4power.com/solar-power-sizing.html - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I think that's why they developed

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Mike
Instead of talking 33.3 days and 24 hours of sun, let's just take an average day. At optimal output, and for the sake of argument, let's say our 60W rated panels only produce 45W; optimally. Let's lob off 12% of that to satisfy the naysayers and devil's advocates, and to account for

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Christopher Erickson
Anchorage, AK 99508 N61?11.710' W149?46.723' -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Terry Hickey Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Good information http

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread jp
All this fuzzy math about hours of sun in 33.3 days is useless and not the way the calculators work. If you are consuming 12w and generating 60w (4 toy panels), here's some math. 288w/day (12x24) load. According to the sun maps, we are in the 4 hour of sun (average!) area according to the sun

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Do the math on the worst case scenario. What kind of values do you need for the bad days - assuming you get a minimal charge during cloudy days, how long does the few hours of that charge last? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Christopher Erickson
' -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Mike Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Instead of talking 33.3 days and 24 hours of sun, let's just take

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Chuck Profito
, August 27, 2009 10:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I have designed a fair number of off-grid radio sites and in general, I have come up with a few additional guidelines. 1. Have enough battery capacity to run for 7 days with zero charging. This will give you a window

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Christopher Erickson
...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Chris, Re #4: Is that because the usable voltage? Ie: 11.2V of 12, 18 of 24? 36-38 of 48? Are these close to correct for std POE? Or what WISP's use

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Chuck Profito
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Erickson Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site * 48 volt power system (actually -48VDC) is a telco standard and there is a LOT of carrier-class telecom equipment and charging systems designed to operate

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread ralph
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Erickson Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site * 48 volt power system (actually -48VDC) is a telco standard and there is a LOT

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Christopher Erickson
: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Thank you Chris for a great explanation! But it brings to mind two more questions (I know, I'm a PITA) Do Picoverters have much loss? ( I think I know inverters lose 20% or more ) And what is 'near

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Christopher Erickson
' -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of ralph Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site But isn't your panel expense 2 to 4 times as much? I looked at powering some Tropos

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-27 Thread Steve Hoffmann
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 9:10 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: Principal WISPA Member List; isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Subject: [WISPA] solar site Hi All, Sorry for the cross post. Time is short

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Blair Davis
Wonder Pole? Please tell me more! Mike wrote: This particular setup is mounted to a 4 x 6 x 4 Wells Cargo enclosed trailer. I painted it bright white and added my logo and on one side Solar Powered Wireless. I park it at events and provide free WiFi. I park it downtown every Friday

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mike
http://www.wonderpole.com/wp640_630.html I have had very good service from this device. Don't over-tighten the section rings in the field unless you have a pair of channel locks with you. Don't ask me how I know that. At 01:59 AM 8/26/2009, you wrote: Wonder Pole? Please tell me more! Mike

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mike
-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site This particular setup is mounted to a 4 x 6 x 4 Wells Cargo enclosed trailer. I painted it bright white and added my logo and on one side Solar Powered Wireless. I park it at events and provide free WiFi. I park it downtown every Friday

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread ralph
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I'd love to add that to my trailer. What is the make? At 11:36 PM 8/25/2009, you wrote: That sounds like great public service and a way to get recognized

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site This particular setup is mounted to a 4 x 6 x 4 Wells Cargo enclosed trailer. I painted it bright white and added my logo and on one side Solar Powered Wireless. I park it at events and provide free WiFi. I

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mark McElvy
: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I was going to ask about this. Harbor freight has a set of 3 on sale for 199 with controller and a few other goodies. I keep meaning to go get some before they go off sale again (I may be too late already

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread ralph
Thanks What do they say about the panels themselves? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site The solar list that I

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mike
Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I'd love to add that to my trailer. What is the make? At 11:36 PM 8/25/2009, you wrote: That sounds like great public service and a way to get recognized too! If you want

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mike
. Call around to your local stations and ask about surplus ENG trucks. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Joe Laura
] solar site Home depot's site. go figure. $329 a Solar Back Up Kit (as they call it.) 60 Watts. $329 http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051langId=-1catalogId=10053productId=100658288

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Curtis Maurand
, 2009 5:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I'd love to add that to my trailer. What is the make? At 11:36 PM 8/25/2009, you wrote: That sounds like great public service and a way to get recognized too! If you want to see something that really gets attention

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mark McElvy
No negative comments, they seem to be fine. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread os10rules
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ralph Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I was going to ask about this. Harbor freight has a set of 3 on sale for 199 with controller and a few other goodies

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Christopher Erickson
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ralph Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I was going to ask about this. Harbor freight has a set of 3 on sale for 199

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Chuck Hogg
] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I second the Morningstar On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Mark McElvy wrote: The solar list that I participate in recommend not using the charge controller included in that kit

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread jp
http://www.altestore.com/store/ is where I get my solar panels. That panel looks like the 48v one they sell for a similar price. Here in the north, I wouldn't bother with anything less than 100w of panel. 2 60's might work for a small 1 MT site. Then you're looking at closer to $1k for 120w of

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Mike
I'm not sure I buy into your math. If I have a repeater site that is pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right? If I have 60W of solar panel (2 toys) then when conditions are optimal, I have 48W left over to charge the battery. Lets say I am REALLY north, and the

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Josh Luthman
24 hours of sun in 33 days is enough to run 12 watts. That's just amazing when you think about it! On 8/27/09, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: I'm not sure I buy into your math. If I have a repeater site that is pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right? If I have 60W of

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread os10rules
Don't forget that there is some inefficiency in the battery and some self discharge. So you don't get a watt out for every watt in. Also don't forget that if you're doing this on a budget you're probably using batteries which are made to deep cycle often so they won't last long if being

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread os10rules
Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I'm not sure I buy into your math. If I have a repeater site that is pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right? If I have 60W of solar panel (2 toys) then when

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I'm not sure I buy into your math. If I have a repeater site that is pulling 1A @ 12V

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread Christopher Erickson
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I don't think his 24 hours of sun number meant in one 24 hour period. I

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-26 Thread os10rules
Am I missing something? 24 (hours of sun) * 60 watts = 1,440 watt hours of solar power produced. 12 (watts) * 24 (hours in a day) * 33 (days) = 9504 (watt hours) not 1,440 of power consumed. Working backwards starting with 1,440 watt hours to burn: 1,440 watt hours / 12 (watts) * 24

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Tom Sharples
. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org; isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 9:09 PM Subject: [WISPA] solar site Hi All, Sorry for the cross

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Greg Ihnen
Check out Sunwize http://sunwize.com/. They're one of the places I've purchased from. They can engineer the system for you, sell you everything you need even the wire and junction boxes, and their prices are good. I have no financial interest in recommending them. Greg On 8/24/09 11:39 PM,

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread eje
General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site When you are done compiling your list share the final back out please. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Mike
I bought two of the Northern Tool $79.00 15 watt panels, their $49.00 charge controller, a deep cycle marine battery from Walmart and built my own. So far, the fully charged light comes on every day. The battery should run my two radio repeater for more than a week. Might not be the club

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- Original Message - From: Paul Rice paul.r...@boomerang-networks.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Hi Marlon, Solar isn't that hard we just need to look at a details to figure out what is required and move on from

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Steve Barnes
, and success achieved. - Helen Keller -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site - Original Message - From: Paul

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Member List' w...@wispa.org; isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Hi Marlon, Long time... Voltage 12V Power Consumption: MT 4 watts, 2 Radio cards 8 watts Total= 12 watts @ 12V We have a handy calculator at http

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
25, 2009 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I bought two of the Northern Tool $79.00 15 watt panels, their $49.00 charge controller, a deep cycle marine battery from Walmart and built my own. So far, the fully charged light comes on every day. The battery should run my two radio repeater

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Paul Rice
: [WISPA] solar site Are you really saying that less than 500 bucks will build a solar system good enough for our radios these days? Dude, if that's true I can open up a LOT more doors! marlon - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Let me get this right, You said; I have a site with 1 starOS, 3 MT with 4 radios (total), 2 alvarion vl, 1 trango 5830, 1 SB ap, Cisco 16 port managed switch and an Airaya backhaul. According to the digital logger at the site I'm pulling a total of about 1.8

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Let me get this right, You said; I have a site with 1 starOS, 3 MT with 4 radios (total), 2 alvarion vl, 1 trango 5830, 1 SB ap, Cisco 16 port managed switch and an Airaya backhaul. According to the digital logger at the site I'm

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread AJ
, August 25, 2009 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I bought two of the Northern Tool $79.00 15 watt panels, their $49.00 charge controller, a deep cycle marine battery from Walmart and built my own. So far, the fully charged light comes on every day. The battery should run my two

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Jerry Richardson
Uh oh. So what do you use? Regular U bolt clamps? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Note to sell - NEVER EVER use

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread AJ
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Note to sell - NEVER EVER use radiator clamps to hold steel L beam brackets to a Trylon steel tower leg

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
120 - Original Message - From: Paul Rice paul.r...@boomerang-networks.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Hey Marlon is that 1.8 amps at 120VAC or 1.8 amps at 12VDC? volts x amps = watts

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Paul Rice
Yikes, that is daunting. Is that the site your putting in, or your example site? -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Paul Rice
. Paul -- From: Paul Rice paul.r...@boomerang-networks.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:09 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Yikes, that is daunting. Is that the site your putting in, or your

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Yikes, that is daunting. Is that the site your putting in, or your example site? -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Chuck Profito
. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Just an example of how little power we really need. I guess I'm too used to those

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Mike
I was shocked to find the 15W panels at Northern for $79.00. I ordered some and they work great. You need a charge controller, $45.00 to keep the batteries from over charging. You have to get creative with uni-strut and angle iron to make your own mount, or buy them. Batteries are the

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Mike Hammett
@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I'd recommend you use either a unmanaged or managed industrial DC powered switch 12-20 vdc otherwise your going to need a LOT of solar panels (650 watts is what my calcs came up with) In fact eliminate all 120 AC from your outdoor install for the best

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Paul Rice paul.r...@boomerang-networks.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:19 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I'd recommend you use either

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread ralph
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site I was shocked to find the 15W panels at Northern for $79.00. I ordered some and they work great. You need a charge controller, $45.00 to keep the batteries from over charging

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Scottie Arnett
Interesting. What radios are you powering this with? Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:50:14 -0500 I bought two of the Northern Tool $79.00 15 watt panels,

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread RickG
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Just an example of how little power we really need. I guess I'm too used to those 500 horse power irrigation pumps we use. marlon - Original Message - From: Paul Rice paul.r...@boomerang-networks.com To: WISPA General List wireless

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread John Thomas
Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site Yikes, that is daunting. Is that the site your putting in, or your example site? -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread John Thomas
It looks like there is a sweet spot at 60 watts http://www.solarhome.org/51-60wattsolarpanels.aspx About $250 each. John Mike wrote: I was shocked to find the 15W panels at Northern for $79.00. I ordered some and they work great. You need a charge controller, $45.00 to keep the

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Mike
This particular setup is mounted to a 4 x 6 x 4 Wells Cargo enclosed trailer. I painted it bright white and added my logo and on one side Solar Powered Wireless. I park it at events and provide free WiFi. I park it downtown every Friday for Farmers Market and the name recognition has been

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread ralph
toting a rocket launcher) LOL Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:57 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site This particular setup is mounted

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-25 Thread Steve
Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org; isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 9:09 PM Subject: [WISPA] solar site Hi All, Sorry for the cross post. Time

[WISPA] solar site

2009-08-24 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hi All, Sorry for the cross post. Time is short on this project and I need a lot of help. I've never done a solar project. Never really even looked at them due to the costs I've seen tossed about. Now I have a customer that's willing to purchase the initial equipment needed to cover his

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Carullo
Subject: [WISPA] solar site Hi All, Sorry for the cross post. Time is short on this project and I need a lot of help. I've never done a solar project. Never really even looked at them due to the costs I've seen tossed about. Now I have a customer that's willing to purchase the initial

Re: [WISPA] solar site

2009-08-24 Thread Paul Rice
Hi Marlon, Solar isn't that hard we just need to look at a details to figure out what is required and move on from there here are details to figure out about solar to make sure it works right 1. figure out how many watt-hours a day he will need for MT radio. Average and maximum watt-hours 2.