Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-07-01 Thread Jack Unger
David,

In your haste to sell equipment you may have failed to understand that 
the question was about availability of unlicensed equipmement. The 
correct answer is that there is NO UNLICENSED 3650 OPERATION. All 3650 
operation requires an FCC license.

jack


David Peterson wrote:
 Have them contact me offlist.  We carry the top WiMax manufacturers in
 3.65GHz.

 David Peterson
 WirelessGuys Inc.
 805-578-8590

 On 6/30/08 1:57 PM, Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz.

 I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked).

 Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this?


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Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-07-01 Thread Jack Unger
Dustin,

I appreciate your thoughtful post. I general, I can help WISPs get 
equipment certified but 3650 is a little more difficult. The lab I work 
with hasn't been too responsive on 3650 inquiries. I have a contact at 
an alternate lab but I have not yet sounded them out regarding 3650. You 
are right on when you mentioned that I charge fees for certification 
work. I have done so many things for free that I DO have to charge 
someone for something in order to be able to pay for food, car 
insurance, Internet access, etc. :)

jack


Dustin Jurman wrote:
 A while back Jack Unger explained how to get your product and antenna
 through FCC licensing (Certified System).  If you are doing this and you
 have UBNT radio's then I believe he said that the costs of certification
 could be less because you would only have to do a mini certification.  I
 also believe he suggested that he could assist with the process for a fee.
 If you need something right away then I would suggest that you consider
 doing something like this yourself,  asking WISPA for some help, or possibly
 getting with other WISPA members in need.  

 Current WIMAX gear is limited to 7.5 mhz channels at max so you're only
 going to produce a certain amount of bandwidth (18 meg at the port).
 UBNT cards can run at 20mhz and if you can get them tested they can run
 closer to 29.00 real world bandwidth. (Tested at the port in the lab on
 UBNT cards).

 If I'm wrong about that Jack can slap me for mis-understanding a post.


 Dustin

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 I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked).

 Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this?


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-07-01 Thread David Peterson
If you can call the current Light-licensed scheme put in place by the FCC,
then yes naturally you have to register your towers and equipment with the
FCC.  However, the procedure is not terribly difficult to navigate and the
cost is not prohibitive.  What I was referring to was the WiMax 3.65GHz
vendors not the UNLICENSED portion of the post.

David
On 7/1/08 2:06 AM, Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David,
 
 In your haste to sell equipment you may have failed to understand that
 the question was about availability of unlicensed equipmement. The
 correct answer is that there is NO UNLICENSED 3650 OPERATION. All 3650
 operation requires an FCC license.
 
 jack
 
 
 David Peterson wrote:
 Have them contact me offlist.  We carry the top WiMax manufacturers in
 3.65GHz.
 
 David Peterson
 WirelessGuys Inc.
 805-578-8590
 
 On 6/30/08 1:57 PM, Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz.
 
 I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked).
 
 Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this?
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-07-01 Thread Jack Unger
Yes, I do call the current 3650 licensed-lite licensing rules 
licensed because it IS licensed. It's true that the 3650 licensing 
requirements are not prohibitively expensive or difficult but a 
licensed service is significantly different than a license-exempt 
service where the rules were not made to be enforced. A licensed service 
requires a higher level of both knowledge and responsibility from the 
licensee compared to the license-exempt environment.

David Peterson wrote:
 If you can call the current Light-licensed scheme put in place by the FCC,
 then yes naturally you have to register your towers and equipment with the
 FCC.  However, the procedure is not terribly difficult to navigate and the
 cost is not prohibitive.  What I was referring to was the WiMax 3.65GHz
 vendors not the UNLICENSED portion of the post.

 David
 On 7/1/08 2:06 AM, Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 David,

 In your haste to sell equipment you may have failed to understand that
 the question was about availability of unlicensed equipmement. The
 correct answer is that there is NO UNLICENSED 3650 OPERATION. All 3650
 operation requires an FCC license.

 jack


 David Peterson wrote:
 
 Have them contact me offlist.  We carry the top WiMax manufacturers in
 3.65GHz.

 David Peterson
 WirelessGuys Inc.
 805-578-8590

 On 6/30/08 1:57 PM, Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
   
 Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz.

 I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked).

 Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this?

 
-- 
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Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
Cisco Press Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs
Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger
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[WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread Rogelio
Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz.

I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked).

Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this?



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Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread Bo Ring

You must have a license to operate in 3.65 in America.

On Jun 30, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Rogelio wrote:


Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz.

I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked).

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Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread Chuck McCown
What is unlicensed 3.65?
I have a license.
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 I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked).

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Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread Gino Villarini
Good point

Unlicensed 3.65 does not exist,

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What is unlicensed 3.65?
I have a license.
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Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:57 AM
Subject: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65


 Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz.

 I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked).

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Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread David Peterson
Have them contact me offlist.  We carry the top WiMax manufacturers in
3.65GHz.

David Peterson
WirelessGuys Inc.
805-578-8590

On 6/30/08 1:57 PM, Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz.
 
 I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked).
 
 Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this?
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread Rogelio
David Peterson wrote:
 Have them contact me offlist.  We carry the top WiMax manufacturers in
 3.65GHz.

Unlicensed?  Which vendors?



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Re: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

2008-06-30 Thread Dustin Jurman
A while back Jack Unger explained how to get your product and antenna
through FCC licensing (Certified System).  If you are doing this and you
have UBNT radio's then I believe he said that the costs of certification
could be less because you would only have to do a mini certification.  I
also believe he suggested that he could assist with the process for a fee.
If you need something right away then I would suggest that you consider
doing something like this yourself,  asking WISPA for some help, or possibly
getting with other WISPA members in need.  

Current WIMAX gear is limited to 7.5 mhz channels at max so you're only
going to produce a certain amount of bandwidth (18 meg at the port).
UBNT cards can run at 20mhz and if you can get them tested they can run
closer to 29.00 real world bandwidth. (Tested at the port in the lab on
UBNT cards).

If I'm wrong about that Jack can slap me for mis-understanding a post.


Dustin

-Original Message-
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Subject: [WISPA] unlic wimax on 3.65

Someone I know is looking for unlicensed wimax on 3.65 GHz.

I told him I didn't know if that was available (but hadn't looked).

Does anyone else have any comments or experience on this?




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