Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-10-04 Thread Travis Johnson
Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Another quick question... If you are running a Canopy Advantage AP and you use regular Canopy SM's, can the AP still deliver the 14Mbps of bandwidth, or will it be limited

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-10-04 Thread Gino A. Villarini
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon So the AP will deliver 14Mbps of bandwidth even if all the SM's are only running at 1x rate? Travis Microserv

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-10-04 Thread Travis Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-10-04 Thread Gino A. Villarini
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Hi, Don't you have to have like a -65 or better signal to get 2x rate? Travis Microserv Gino A. Villarini wrote: Not the case, 14 mbps is 2x mode, but the only reason for all your Sm's would be a 1x would be cause they are old radios (p7,p8

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-10-04 Thread Travis Johnson
] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Hi, Don't you have to have like a -65 or better signal to get 2x rate? Travis Microserv Gino A. Villarini wrote: Not the case, 14 mbps is 2x mode, but the only

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-10-04 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon So the AP will deliver 14Mbps of bandwidth even if all the SM's are only running at 1x rate? Travis Microserv Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: Run Advantage AP's and Legacy SM's

RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-29 Thread Dustin Jurman
Don, you talking about the AZ event? DSJ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Renner Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:58 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) I

RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-29 Thread Charles Wu
Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:37 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) I have

RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-29 Thread Rick Harnish
To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) As one of Canopy's largest ACSPs in the US, I know all the people at Canopy We have been talking about WISPA -- and are putting something together for a sponsorship Stay tuned... -Charles

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-29 Thread Ralph Fowler
I was told a couple of days ago that the regular SMs are going away soon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-29 Thread Ron Wallace
, September 29, 2006 12:27 PMTo: ''WISPA General List''Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)As one of Canopy's largest ACSPs in the US, I know all the people at CanopyWe have been talking about WISPA -- and are putting something together for asponsorshipStay tuned...-Charles

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-29 Thread Dylan Oliver
On 9/29/06, Ron Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles, I know this is a duh question, but what is an ACSP?? DUH. Google is your friend. It's *obviously* the Australasian College of Sports Physicians.;)-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-29 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Title: Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) Association of Closet and Storage Professionals http://www.closets.org/ Humm... Is Charles trying to tell us something :) On 9/29/06 4:22 PM, Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.acsp.org.au/ On 9/29/06, Ron

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-29 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon I was told a couple of days ago that the regular SMs are going away soon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:26 PM To: 'WISPA

Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Dylan Oliver
On 9/28/06, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we can get Motorola to become a WISPA vendor member, we will gladly start a list here without those restrictions. How has Motorola been approached?Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Rick Harnish
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) On 9/28/06, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we can get Motorola to become a WISPA

RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Don Renner
Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) Im not sure whether they have yet. I think they were last year but I dont recall right now. Anyone who is a valuable Motorola customer want

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Dylan Oliver
Just looked at the webpage to gather statistics like WISPA membership and mailing list subscription, but did not see it at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2. What audience will they reach by becoming a vendor member? The WISPA Vendor Members text in the left column should be a link to either section

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Partial hijack here. On a related subject, is there anyone at Motorola that is really good with WISPs. Someone who I can call and talk to as a Canopy user. Not a script reader. I admit I have never called them. I rely on vendors, and other WISPs for all Canopy related info and support.

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Peter R.
You might want to take this discussion over to the Member list. Dylan Oliver wrote: Just looked at the webpage to gather statistics like WISPA membership and mailing list subscription, but did not see it at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2. What audience will they reach by becoming a vendor

RE: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon) Partial hijack here. On a related

Re: Motorola membership (Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon)

2006-09-28 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Dylan Oliver wrote: Just looked at the webpage to gather statistics like WISPA membership and mailing list subscription, but did not see it at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2. What audience will they reach by becoming a vendor member? The WISPA Vendor Members text in the left column should

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-28 Thread Travis Johnson
: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Patrick Leary wrote: I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and sold to be primarily a pmp system. I've never met or heard of a Canopy pmp network of any scale that did

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-28 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
the full 14Mb Aggregate. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Another quick

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-28 Thread Gino A. Villarini
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Another quick question... If you are running a Canopy Advantage AP and you use regular Canopy SM's, can the AP still deliver the 14Mbps

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-28 Thread Travis Johnson
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Another quick question... If you are running a Canopy Advantage AP and you use regular Canopy SM's, can the AP still deliver the 14Mbps

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-28 Thread Mike Delp
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 11:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Another quick question... If you are running a Canopy Advantage AP and you use regular Canopy SM's, can the AP still deliver the 14Mbps

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-28 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Someone posted a 3rd party GPS sync module (around $300 I think?). Can someone share that info with me again, please? :) Travis Microserv Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: Run Advantage AP's and Legacy SM's. With the Advantage AP's and legacy SM's you get

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-27 Thread Travis Johnson
that town is pretty well smoked. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Anthony Will Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Well I

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-27 Thread Anthony Will
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Will Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Well I have had 2.4ghz radio's link up at -89db (not very well mind you but...) so I don't know what to tell you other then Moto has

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-26 Thread Anthony Will
. It seems like we can always pick up a AP at -80. YMMV. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 5:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-26 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Will Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Well I have had 2.4ghz radio's link up at -89db (not very well mind you but...) so I don't know what

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-26 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Hi, First, the spec sheet on Motorola's website says -86 RSSI. What happens when you have more than 3 towers outside of the 8 mile range of GPS sync? The 2.4ghz signal will definately travel that far, causing self-interference, correct

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-26 Thread Patrick Leary
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Hey Patrick, GPS...there's many reasons and it's not a canopy vs alvarion debate from my standpoint, more so a scheduled mac(canopy, wimax, 3G...) vs unscheduled(wifi, VL, currently Trango). I'd predict that as wisp education progresses, they will realize

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Brad, Software controlled dual polarity might be nice. Not sure why you consistently harp on us though

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs I should have also noted that per the info below, most Alvarion operators simply have a policy that they will only connect subscribers for whom a minimum number of the green LEDs will fire and hold. For example, having 4 for of the 8 green LEDs light

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-26 Thread isplists
: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Hey Patrick, GPS...there's many reasons and it's not a canopy vs alvarion debate from my standpoint, more so a scheduled mac(canopy, wimax, 3G...) vs unscheduled(wifi, VL, currently Trango). I'd predict that as wisp education progresses, they will realize the power

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Jon Langeler
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Ahhh... there's always a catch... so now Motorola has your customer's address and can use that for their own marketing, etc. without you ever knowing

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Gino A. Villarini
] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs I'm sure most know

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Larson
with more towers needed (again saving the service provider money). Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Trango Atlas CPE with dish $250? Canopy

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Belton
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:31 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Gino, I have to admit Alvarion has some work to do for the smaller wisp's out there. Patrick will have his hands full on this one

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Larson
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs I'm sure most know that was a 'play' and basically secured Moto's position to sell WIMAX gear to the 2nd largest 2.5GHz spectrum holder. It would have been interesting if Alvarion had been in their place...not sure if you guys have

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
for committed rate business offerings. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:31 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Gino, I have to admit Alvarion has some

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Larson
] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Price is always a factor, but we would gladly pay a premium for VL with the sorely needed HARDWARE improvements: (1) Dual Polarity via software (2) Dual Band 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz These are time

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread John Scrivner
square mile centers vs high rooftop with more towers needed (again saving the service provider money). Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Trango

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Belton
Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Brad Belton, Respectfully, there are 100's of wisp's proving you wrong. OFDM in UL has its place and making blanket statements to the contrary makes little sense. There is great debate

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread John Scrivner
the fact that Scriv is probably sleeping better at night without the outages he used to have. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Price is always

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Travis, WE provide Symetrical Business service with Canopy, why you couldn't ? A Regular AP has 7 Mbps if you split 75/25 that translates to : 5.25 / 1.75

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs There are arguments against dual band

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: WISPA General List Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:02 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Hi Tom. What hardware features are you referring to? Patrick

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
, but I give credit where credit is due. Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brad Belton To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:59 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Exactly

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Travis Johnson
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:31 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Gino, I have to admit Alvarion has some work to do for the smaller wisp's out there. Patrick will have his hands full on this one. But for wisps buying 100 packs

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: WISPA General List Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs I should have also noted that per the info below, most Alvarion operators simply have a policy that they will only connect

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Tom, I can give you some

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Patrick Leary wrote: I have a very interesting new (this month) pdf about this topic that compares Canopy Advantage and BreezeACCESS VL in a variety of ways, from a coverage modeling example using high end propagation software to VoIP stats using company documents from both companies. We

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Patrick Leary
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs My problem with VL is that it doesn't offer a scheduled mac...no syncronization capability. Now if this get's incorporated

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Belton
List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Agreed, VL does have more niche features and some of those can be the sole reason VL makes the cut and other products do not. As you know VLAN support was the key feature in this particular case, but simply placing a CPE router on site will also fill that need

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Larson
you have to. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:34 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Hello Brad, I think you are missing the point of the thread here. The point is to offer up

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Tom DeReggi
] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Gino, I have to admit Alvarion has some work to do for the smaller wisp's out there. Patrick will have his hands full on this one. But for wisps buying 100 packs on a bi or monthly

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Rick Smith
: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Jon, Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Canopy is some cool feature? Canopy must have GPS to function. Without it, it kills itself. It is all to prevent self-inflicted interference (remember

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Matt Liotta
Patrick Leary wrote: Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Canopy is some cool feature? Canopy must have GPS to function. Without it, it kills itself. It is all to prevent self-inflicted interference (remember, Canopy does not even have ATPC) and to allow for channel re-use. Other

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Patrick Leary
11:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs I'm sure most know that was a 'play' and basically secured Moto's position to sell WIMAX gear to the 2nd largest 2.5GHz spectrum holder. It would have been interesting if Alvarion had been in their place...not sure if you guys have

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Belton
. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:59 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs I'm not missing the point at all. There is a debate and the findings aren't

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Patrick Leary
. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Patrick Leary wrote: Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Canopy is some

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Larson
Comments inline: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Hello Brad, Forgive me as I just now realized you are with Alvarion and not an end user. Refresh my

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Belton
List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs inline Brad Belton wrote: Price is always a factor, but we would gladly pay a premium for VL with the sorely needed HARDWARE improvements: (1) Dual Polarity via software (2) Dual Band 5.3GHz and 5.8GHz I know trango does dual polarity, but who does

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Patrick Leary
] vendor specs -- Jon Patrick Leary wrote: I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and sold to be primarily a pmp system. I've never met or heard of a Canopy pmp network of any scale that did not require

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Gino A. Villarini
fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Jon, Why is that the case? You really think GPS on Canopy is some

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread Brad Belton
Scrivner Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Brad and Brad. You guys are getting boringsaying the same drivel over and over. PLEASE either take your broken record off line or say something original. Scriv Brad Belton wrote: Hello Brad

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Patrick Leary wrote: I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and sold to be primarily a pmp system. I've never met or heard of a Canopy pmp network of any scale that did

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-25 Thread John Scrivner
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Larson Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Brad Belton, Respectfully, there are 100's of wisp's proving you wrong. OFDM in UL has its place and making blanket

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Travis Johnson
, September 25, 2006 5:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon Patrick Leary wrote: I'm speaking about multipoint matt, not ptp. The dedicated ptp you are doing is by far the exception. Canopy is designed, built, and sold to be primarily a pmp system. I've never met

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Jon Langeler
The timing or range is a configurable setting in canopy, you set them at 20 miles and the AP's as far as 20 miles and under will all be in sync. If you have 2 AP past 20 miles but LOS to each other, you can calulate to see if the RSSI on the AP's is close to the reciever sensitivity(or noise

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs -- Jon

2006-09-25 Thread Jon Langeler
Hey Patrick, GPS...there's many reasons and it's not a canopy vs alvarion debate from my standpoint, more so a scheduled mac(canopy, wimax, 3G...) vs unscheduled(wifi, VL, currently Trango). I'd predict that as wisp education progresses, they will realize the power of scheduled mac and GPS

Re: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-24 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Geez Patrick, go to bed!!! Get some rest Seriously, this is a great list. Definitely shows how the VL is a completely different animal than the other options out there. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick Leary wrote: I believe most if not all of the below are features not found

RE: [WISPA] vendor specs

2006-09-24 Thread Brad Belton
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Geez Patrick, go to bed!!! Get some rest Seriously, this is a great list. Definitely shows how

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2006-09-24 Thread Patrick Leary
Brad, Software controlled dual polarity might be nice. Not sure why you consistently harp on us though since no one else has it either other than your longtime preferred vendor. I am not as convinced about your complaint about RSSI. Is it just used to RSSI like being used to feet in stead of

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2006-09-24 Thread G. villarini
to determine the link budget in advance to implementation. Snr won’t help much there... Gino -Original Message- From: Patrick Leary[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9/24/06 11:32:47 AM To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Brad

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2006-09-24 Thread Matt Liotta
Message- From: Patrick Leary[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9/24/06 11:32:47 AM To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Brad, Software controlled dual polarity might be nice. Not sure why you consistently harp on us though since no one

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2006-09-24 Thread Patrick Leary
: [WISPA] vendor specs Right, but the LED bar on the CPE can be used to do that. I mean, isn't SNR more complete than just RSSI, meaning if your SNR is good than the RSSI is by default good. Anyway, I have never heard of any moderately experienced VL user say the units did not convey enough info

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2006-09-24 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Leary Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Right, but the LED bar on the CPE can be used to do that. I mean, isn't SNR more complete than just RSSI, meaning if your SNR is good than the RSSI is by default good. Anyway, I have never

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2006-09-24 Thread Brad Belton
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:48 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs The problem with SNR for alignment purposes is that you are dealing with a variable in noise, with rssi you work with fixed numbers. Im not dissing SNR

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2006-09-24 Thread Patrick Leary
Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:48 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs The problem with SNR for alignment purposes is that you are dealing with a variable in noise, with rssi you work with fixed numbers. Im not dissing SNR, it is extremely important

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2006-09-24 Thread John Scrivner
, September 24, 2006 9:48 AM *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] vendor specs The problem with SNR for alignment purposes is that you are dealing with a variable in noise, with rssi you work with fixed numbers. I’m not dissing SNR, it is extremely important, But for example, in order

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2006-09-24 Thread Patrick Leary
, 2006 11:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Not to beat the horse here but I think having SNR, RSSI and Noise readings are all things people should have in an advanced platform. Granted if you have any two you can get the third but just having it all right

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2006-09-24 Thread Brad Belton
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Re dual polarity via software, I and others have always said it would be nice. You've never heard me argue

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2006-09-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Let me comment on this #Canopy 5.7 AP - $970 (Advantage $1,974) is this MRSP ? you can buy this the AP for $800 +/- , Advantage for $1500 #C/I advantage #Fixed up/down ratio Add GPS Sync, Feature rich firmware, NMS Software, Strong support, Good promos

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2006-09-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Anthony Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Your numbers are a bit off on the canopy

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2006-09-24 Thread Patrick Leary
WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Agreed, VL

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2006-09-24 Thread Patrick Leary
Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Trango is no where near $400 for Atlas Foxes. Trango's Atlas Fox's distance without dish is just about the same as the standard Canopy CPE (same DBI antenna). Remember that Trango lists retail on their site to protest the WISP. Low volume WISP special pricing

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2006-09-24 Thread Matt Liotta
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Agreed, VL does have more niche features and some of those can be the sole reason VL makes the cut and other products do

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2006-09-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Trango offers many different CPE (5830, Fox, Fox Atlas, etc

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2006-09-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
: [WISPA] vendor specs If you're serving the residential market, and price is the big concern, it's worth noting that Canopy has a $40 / customer residential rebate program that's been going on for almost 2 years now It's also worth noting with Canopy that you need to add ~$10 / unit for power supplies

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2006-09-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Advantage AP 14 Mbps will give you 7 / 7 Mbps, and thats at the same time, wheres with Trango you can only get

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2006-09-24 Thread Patrick Leary
product offers or what the guys in Latvia can really deliver. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs To be fair, you shouldn't

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2006-09-24 Thread Patrick Leary
Hi Tom. What hardware features are you referring to? Patrick This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code,

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2006-09-24 Thread Gino A. Villarini
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Gino, The prices you state seem way low. I've only see nthat on temporar or Ebay type buying

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2006-09-24 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] vendor specs Trango is no where near $400 for Atlas Foxes. Trango's Atlas Fox's distance without dish is just about the same as the standard Canopy CPE (same DBI antenna). Remember that Trango lists retail

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2006-09-24 Thread Gino A. Villarini
] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 4:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs So what is the onesy-twosy price of a Trango Atlas with an extended range antenna? What is the price for a Canopy Advantage CPE with extended range? I have plenty of data I've

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2006-09-24 Thread Chuck
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 3:44 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] vendor specs Trango Atlas CPE with dish $250? Canopy with dish $275 Canopy Advantage Cluster: 6

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