Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Mark McElvy
ShowMe Power

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut
and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net




 
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America?

Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along 
with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered...

Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it.


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From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 ShowMe Power

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut
 and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Webster
You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for
bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site.



Thank You,
Brian Webster

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America?

Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along
with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered...

Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 ShowMe Power

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut
 and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I think that list would be incredibly enormous, take a long time to compile, 
and prone to many mistakes (mostly omissions).

I'll start a new thread.


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From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:56 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for
 bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


 Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America?

 Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along
 with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered...

 Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 ShowMe Power

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut
 and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Rick Harnish
We do have a Vendor Member that may be of assistance.  Network Innovations
out of Chicago is currently our only vendor member who sells bandwidth.
Their website can be reached from the WISPA Homepage.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

I think that list would be incredibly enormous, take a long time to compile,

and prone to many mistakes (mostly omissions).

I'll start a new thread.


-
Mike Hammett
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From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:56 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for
 bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


 Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America?

 Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along
 with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered...

 Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 ShowMe Power

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut
 and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
How about a composite fiber map?
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


 You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for
 bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


 Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America?

 Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along
 with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered...

 Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 ShowMe Power

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut
 and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I've worked with NI many times (though have never purchased anything).  They 
are great to work with, but really only resell bandwidth from a few carriers 
and that normally comprises of TDM lines (which we as an industry need to 
get away from) or services in NFL markets.  They would have been of little 
help in every case I've helped someone out lately.


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From: Rick Harnish rharn...@greatamericanbroadband.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:09 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 We do have a Vendor Member that may be of assistance.  Network Innovations
 out of Chicago is currently our only vendor member who sells bandwidth.
 Their website can be reached from the WISPA Homepage.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I think that list would be incredibly enormous, take a long time to 
 compile,

 and prone to many mistakes (mostly omissions).

 I'll start a new thread.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:56 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for
 bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


 Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America?

 Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri 
 along
 with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered...

 Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 ShowMe Power

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut
 and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Brian Webster
If someone can feed me data that is not protected by an NDA I would gladly
do that.



Thank You,
Brian Webster


-Original Message-
From: Chuck McCown - 3 [mailto:ch...@beehive.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:11 AM
To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


How about a composite fiber map?
- Original Message -
From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


 You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for
 bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


 Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America?

 Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along
 with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered...

 Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 ShowMe Power

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut
 and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Matt Liotta
Resellers play an important role in the overall ecosystem. However, as  
an industry we would be far better off if we bought from each other  
than from our competition. I believe that had CLECs worked with each  
other as opposed to trying to steal each other customers they might  
have made a dent in the ILECs' business.

-Matt

On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 I've worked with NI many times (though have never purchased  
 anything).  They
 are great to work with, but really only resell bandwidth from a few  
 carriers
 and that normally comprises of TDM lines (which we as an industry  
 need to
 get away from) or services in NFL markets.  They would have been of  
 little
 help in every case I've helped someone out lately.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Rick Harnish rharn...@greatamericanbroadband.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:09 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 We do have a Vendor Member that may be of assistance.  Network  
 Innovations
 out of Chicago is currently our only vendor member who sells  
 bandwidth.
 Their website can be reached from the WISPA Homepage.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I think that list would be incredibly enormous, take a long time to
 compile,

 and prone to many mistakes (mostly omissions).

 I'll start a new thread.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:56 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for
 bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org]on
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


 Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America?

 Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri
 along
 with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered...

 Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 ShowMe Power

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- 
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre  
 carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap  
 bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 ]
 On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St  
 Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in  
 town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900  
 Walnut
 and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and  
 get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I see no reason to restrict this list to just L3, GLBX, Cogent, etc., but 
any company willing to sell bandwidth for wholesale use...  including each 
other.


-
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http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:29 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Resellers play an important role in the overall ecosystem. However, as
 an industry we would be far better off if we bought from each other
 than from our competition. I believe that had CLECs worked with each
 other as opposed to trying to steal each other customers they might
 have made a dent in the ILECs' business.

 -Matt

 On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 I've worked with NI many times (though have never purchased
 anything).  They
 are great to work with, but really only resell bandwidth from a few
 carriers
 and that normally comprises of TDM lines (which we as an industry
 need to
 get away from) or services in NFL markets.  They would have been of
 little
 help in every case I've helped someone out lately.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Rick Harnish rharn...@greatamericanbroadband.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:09 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 We do have a Vendor Member that may be of assistance.  Network
 Innovations
 out of Chicago is currently our only vendor member who sells
 bandwidth.
 Their website can be reached from the WISPA Homepage.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I think that list would be incredibly enormous, take a long time to
 compile,

 and prone to many mistakes (mostly omissions).

 I'll start a new thread.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:56 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of companies for
 bandwidth and place it on the WISPA site.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org]on
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


 Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America?

 Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri
 along
 with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered...

 Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 ShowMe Power

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
 boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre
 carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap
 bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 ]
 On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St
 Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in
 town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900
 Walnut
 and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and
 get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Tom DeReggi
There is tons of Fiber all over the place. Its just supply is controlled 
like the Diamond industry to keep the price high.
The question is Can you get access to it at the right price?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


 Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America?

 Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri along
 with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered...

 Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 ShowMe Power

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut
 and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Hammett
There is some of that yes, but it's a lot more available and affordably 
available than one might think.


-
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--
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:58 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 There is tons of Fiber all over the place. Its just supply is controlled
 like the Diamond industry to keep the price high.
 The question is Can you get access to it at the right price?

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth


 Wow, and who says there's not fiber in rural America?

 Cooperative's Broadband Network has a significant amount of Missouri 
 along
 with parts of Arkansas and Oklahoma covered...

 Fiber is out there people, you just have to look for it.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:01 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 ShowMe Power

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:06 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut
 and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-18 Thread Matt
 How about a composite fiber map?

Chuck,

BTW:  How did you get your gigabit Level3 connection?  At least I
think I remember you saying you have a gigabit to Level3.  Did they
have a fiber near you or something?  Is the pricing super, good or
just decent?  Is it on a Qwest loop or anything like that?

With a gigabit to Level3 I doubt you need bandwidth too bad right now. ;)

Matt



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[WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-17 Thread Mark McElvy
I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
Rolla Missouri.

 

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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-17 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
I.e. you want bandwidth out of st. louis? 

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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-17 Thread David E. Smith
Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town? 
Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut and 
210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get 
basically as much connectivity as you want there.

David Smith
MVN.net



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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-17 Thread Mark McElvy
I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
can transport for me. 

Mark

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town? 
Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut and

210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get 
basically as much connectivity as you want there.

David Smith
MVN.net




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Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

2008-12-17 Thread Mike Hammett
If you let me know who that carrier is, I can help you out.


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From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:18 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 I am in Salem, MO but I have Fibre to my office. My Fibre carrier has
 POP's in Rolla and St Louis so if I can find some cheap bandwidth they
 can transport for me.

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth

 Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am looking for wholesale bandwidth providers to either St Louis or
 Rolla Missouri.

 Do you need it delivered to your door, or just somewhere in town?
 Saint Louis has a couple downtown telco-hotel facilities (900 Walnut and

 210 Tucker, I think); you should be able to rent rack space and get
 basically as much connectivity as you want there.

 David Smith
 MVN.net


 
 
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