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Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
You make the mistake of assuming that I am talking about an unlicensed
3.65
product Charles. We would not likely build a UL version of all that. I am
in
complete agreement with you on 3.650 in terms
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In other words, the number of
licenses is infinite.
Yes, but you leave out that there is a requirement to attempt to coexist, or
cooperate to attempt to co-exist.
And it brings out into the open, all possible interferers, where they are
located, and how
that impression
based on my views that I expressed earlier in this post.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
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In other words
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The radios that exist for 900Mhz today barely qualify from a delivered
bandwidth perspective. We hardly ever lead with a 1.5Mbps service
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The radios that exist for 900Mhz today barely qualify from a delivered
bandwidth perspective. We hardly ever lead with a 1.5Mbps service, but
sometimes
4:34 AM
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There is only 50Mhz available if I recall, so how many licensees can
their be if each is given multiple 5Mhz channels? If only one or two
companies are allowed to play in a given market then I expect 3.65Ghz to
miss the market
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There is only 50Mhz available if I recall, so how many
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The benchmark is the ability to provide NLOS, portable or fixed service
to at least a 2 mile radius per
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The radios that exist
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The benchmark is the ability to provide NLOS, portable or fixed service to
at least a 2 mile radius per cell
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The benchmark is the ability to provide NLOS, portable or fixed service to
at least a 2 mile radius per cell, indoors.
5.8 doesnt really give true NLOS to that distance indoors
: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
All WiMAX vendors will have some version of this type of CPE since that is a
mandatory requirement for licensed band operators. Each will have their own
attempts at special sauce to differentiate their offering. It will get very
interesting come fall (which is not to say
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A. More power Tom. B. Much
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:17 PM
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But, 3.65 isn't going to be unlicensed; it is going
Charles Wu wrote:
What do you think is going to happen?
Exactly the same thing that we have with 5.8Ghz, but without all the
non-operators. While that isn't the same as mutually exclusive spectrum,
it is a big step forward for all of us successful companies using 5.8Ghz.
-Matt
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A. More power Tom. B
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Hi Patrick,
But all the fancy schmancy technology you implement won't do @#$@ unless
3650 is licensed b/c interference from 20 other systems in the area
(including several from our GPS
that will use the
entire swath of band from one radio UNLESS it is a P2P radio, in which case
the entire range should be usable.
Patrick
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:58 PM
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radio.
Patrick
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
The radios that exist for 900Mhz today barely qualify from a delivered
bandwidth perspective. We hardly ever lead
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
Frankly,
The FCC should really hurry up and finish the rules to allow the industry
to
really take off. The common view with most manufacturers I have found is
that until there is 3.5ghz or near spectrum available, there will be small
and limited deployments
, 2006 5:20 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment, WIMAX?
So Patrick, can we expect 3.65 be available at the same time as 5.4 ...
q3-q4 ?
Gino A. Villarini
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Patrick,
It doesnt change the fact that many have launched limited deployments
as a test but still charged for the access service, banking on the
fact that the FCC has set
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From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:23 AM
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3.5Ghz does,
I find that hard to believe. 2.4Ghz couldn't
To make it easier, maybe you can give what you believe to be an industry
price. I realize you can't give a price of Alvarion at this point. But
you can give us a hip shoot of what you think common pricing for ce and
ap are.
Thanks
George
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Pretty exciting.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
A. More power
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A. More power Tom. B. Much more sophistication in the equipment yielding
much higher spectral efficiency and system gain.
Frequency plays a major role, but you
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:58 PM
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Is Alvarion going to do the same for 5.8G unlicensed Wimax?
All though license and high power may not be there, the technical
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment, WIMAX?
Will the 3650 be WIMAX'able. I understand that the 3650 is supposed to
be contention based and WIMAX is not contention based.
Any updates?
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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:24 PM
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Will the 3650 be WIMAX'able. I understand that the 3650 is supposed
: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:18 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment, WIMAX?
That is part of the reconsideration process. The FCC (per multiple talks
with the folks that wrote the rule) did not intent to exclude WiMAX, 802.16,
or 802.11 products from use in 3650MHz
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In the larger scale of things- when you compare this to a carrier
deployment
which would deliver thousands
: Charles Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:40 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
Read below and you can decide on whether or not you will be breaking the
law w/ a 3650 deployment
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So, 3650MHz isn't going to fall under Part90 rules?
Brad
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Comments inline.
Even given
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
Can you blame them?
Congress is now considering demanding that ALL ISP's log ALL data to and
from thier customers.
Seems like a few someones a while back thought that we needed more
government involvement in the ISP business
!
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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 6:14 AM
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All the same time, the industry doesn't bother to fill out their Form 477s
also
The sad thing
Read below and you can decide on whether or not you will be breaking the
law w/ a 3650 deployment
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No one. The allocation is not yet finalized. Any licenses being granted
are
24 month STAs (special temporary authority). One cannot deploy fee-based
services using an STA as STA's are intended for testing purposes.
Sources within
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Read below and you can decide on whether or not you will be breaking the
law w/ a 3650 deployment
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I understood that the 3650 was not to be used in commercial links. I'm
assuming money makes it commercial.
I would like to deploy a couple links for non paying situations, cameras
for a city park. I'd also like to have the licenseand not be wasting
my limited
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Read below and you can decide on whether or not you will be breaking the
law w/ a 3650 deployment
jeffrey thomas wrote:
sure.
Hi Jeff, so sure is your answer, and no is Patricks.
You got something different than Patrick that says a wisp can set up a
link and put it into production 24/7?
George
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CANNOT launch any
commercial services using 3650MHz.
- Patrick
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Read below and you can decide on whether or not you
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Jeffrey,
I have to question the judgement ability (or the lack of it) of anyone
who abuses the FCC rules to the extent of taking a licensed
experimental system and using it for a commercial, revenue-generating
purpose. Someone who would do this is (IMHO):
1. Someone
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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
Jeffrey,
I have to question the judgement ability (or the lack of it) of anyone
who abuses the FCC rules to the extent of taking a licensed
experimental
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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:07 PM
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Gino,
Is Towerstream doing this - using 3650 to deliver commercial
Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:07 PM
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Gino,
Is Towerstream doing
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
Gino,
They may need that many to test the full throughput capabilities. So
what are the details of what they are doing?
jack
Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Do you really think towerstream need 150 field units or cpes to test a
single
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From: Charles Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 8:40 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
Read below and you can decide on whether or not you will be breaking the
law w/ a 3650 deployment
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Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
Jeffrey,
I have to question the judgement ability (or the lack of it) of anyone
who abuses the FCC rules to the extent
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Gino,
Is Towerstream doing this - using 3650 to deliver commercial service?
jack
Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Towerstream anyone ?
Gino A. Villarini
23, 2006 8:40 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment
Read below and you can decide on whether or not you will be breaking the
law w/ a 3650 deployment
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No one. The allocation is not yet finalized. Any licenses being granted are
24 month STAs (special temporary authority). One cannot deploy fee-based
services using an STA as STA's are intended for testing purposes.
Sources within the FCC tell me though that the decision is coming to a head,
I thought someone said that Redline had a system out for testing?
Actualy I thought Bullit said he had some deployed.
Does Alvarion have a system that they are testing?
George
Patrick Leary wrote:
No one. The allocation is not yet finalized. Any licenses being granted are
24 month STAs
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