RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

2006-03-27 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
I don't think the drain wire would be big enough to ground the mount. We
ground the drain wire to the lug in the Canopy 300ss. 

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC

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Can't you just use shielded Cat5E cable to do this.  We use it on all tower
installs but not for CPE's.  

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
www.oibw.net
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I have been looking for Shielded Cat5e with a ground wire attached for a
long time also. I was thinking of calling belden and asking them what it
would take to make it.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC

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Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

I know this is something every WISP should be interested in
using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable
with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000'
spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across
any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg
and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff.

While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8 diameter copper ground
rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for
less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp
to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They
also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool
for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
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From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding


Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached.

How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? 
http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098

It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck)  I 
just want somewhere for the static to go.  I could break off the coax at 
the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it 
good.  Thoughts?

Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire?
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Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

2006-03-27 Thread Anthony Morin
Blair,Where can I get this outdoor, shielded, flooded, cat5 with drain wire for about $80?  That is about what I'm paying now for simple outdoor rated cat5.Thanks,  Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Well, I use a outdoor, shielded, flooded, cat5 with drain wire.About $80 or so per 1000ft. The drain wire is awg 24 or so, but, it serves the purpose of bleeding off the static charge and protecting the ethernet port on the radio and the computer/router. I have had no ethernet port damage on CPE's or towers that I have used this on and I am retro-fitting my existing towers with it.I ground it to the home electrical system at the power injector when used with a CPE.It is not very pretty, but it works.Brian
 Rohrbacher wrote: Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached. How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE?  http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098 It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck) I  just want somewhere for the static to go. I could break off the coax  at the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it  good. Thoughts? Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire?-- Blair DavisAOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240West Michigan Wireless ISP269-686-8648A division of:Camp Communication Services, INC-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/Velocity Wireless  Anthony Morin  208 East Elm Street  Ambia, IN 47917  Office: (765) 869-5173  Cell: (765) 884-6009
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RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

2006-03-26 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
I have been looking for Shielded Cat5e with a ground wire attached for a
long time also. I was thinking of calling belden and asking them what it
would take to make it.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

I know this is something every WISP should be interested in
using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable
with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000'
spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across
any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg
and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff.

While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8 diameter copper ground
rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for
less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp
to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They
also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool
for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
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From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding


Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached.

How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? 
http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098

It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck)  I 
just want somewhere for the static to go.  I could break off the coax at 
the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it 
good.  Thoughts?

Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire?
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RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

2006-03-26 Thread Rick Harnish
Can't you just use shielded Cat5E cable to do this.  We use it on all tower
installs but not for CPE's.  

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
www.oibw.net
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:19 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

I have been looking for Shielded Cat5e with a ground wire attached for a
long time also. I was thinking of calling belden and asking them what it
would take to make it.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

I know this is something every WISP should be interested in
using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable
with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000'
spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across
any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg
and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff.

While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8 diameter copper ground
rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for
less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp
to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They
also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool
for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
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From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding


Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached.

How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? 
http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098

It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck)  I 
just want somewhere for the static to go.  I could break off the coax at 
the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it 
good.  Thoughts?

Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire?
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Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

2006-03-26 Thread KyWiFi LLC
What do you ground the shield to? We are needing to
ground the mounting arm. Plus, I would think that it would
be hard to attach the shield to a ground rod plus this would
require that the Cat5 be cut outside which is something we
are wanting to prevent. If we had a Cat5 with an attached
ground wire then it would be nice to cut the ground wire
and attach both of the cut ends to the ground rod then the
outside end would be attached to the mounting arm and the
inside end could be attached to a Cat5 surge protector.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
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- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding


Can't you just use shielded Cat5E cable to do this.  We use it on all tower
installs but not for CPE's.  

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:19 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

I have been looking for Shielded Cat5e with a ground wire attached for a
long time also. I was thinking of calling belden and asking them what it
would take to make it.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

I know this is something every WISP should be interested in
using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable
with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000'
spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across
any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg
and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff.

While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8 diameter copper ground
rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for
less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp
to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They
also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool
for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone  Internet Provider

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From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding


Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached.

How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? 
http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098

It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck)  I 
just want somewhere for the static to go.  I could break off the coax at 
the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it 
good.  Thoughts?

Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire?
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Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

2006-03-26 Thread Blair Davis

Well, I use a outdoor, shielded, flooded, cat5 with drain wire.

About $80 or so per 1000ft.  The drain wire is awg 24 or so, but, it 
serves the purpose of bleeding off the static charge and protecting the 
ethernet port on the radio and the computer/router.  I have had no 
ethernet port damage on CPE's or towers that I have used this on and I 
am retro-fitting my existing towers with it.


I ground it to the home electrical system at the power injector when 
used with a CPE.


It is not very pretty, but it works.


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached.

How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? 
http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098


It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck)  I 
just want somewhere for the static to go.  I could break off the coax 
at the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it 
good.  Thoughts?


Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire?



--
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AOL IM Screen Name --  Theory240

West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648

A division of:
Camp Communication Services, INC


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Re: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding

2006-03-26 Thread Blair Davis
Even a shielded, flooded cat5 with messenger would work, but I have been 
searching for that for years with no luck.


When I worked for a cable company, (many years ago),  we had an RG-6 
cable with a copper plated steel messenger line.  It worked for overhead 
work as well as grounding.


KyWiFi LLC wrote:


I know this is something every WISP should be interested in
using. It would be great to have an outdoor rated Cat5 cable
with an attached 10awg. A reasonable price IMO for a 1000'
spool would be $200 - $250. Keep us posted if you run across
any. The smallest ground I would be comfortable using is 12awg
and we'll want to sure it is braided so the cable is not stiff.

While on this subject, is a 4' long 3/8 diameter copper ground
rod sufficient for a CPE installation? SkyWalker sells these for
less than a buck each in 100 qty. and they include a ground clamp
to attach the wire. I'm thinking about buying a 100 of them. They
also have a decent price on their 10 awg ground wire, 500' spool
for $59 but I don't know if it is solid or braided.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone  Internet Provider

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UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69!

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- Original Message - 
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: [WISPA] CPE...Cat5...grounding


Ok, I am searching for cat5 with ground wire attached.

How well do you think a coax would work to ground the CPE? 
http://www.computercablestore.com/detail.aspx?ID=2098


It's not like I am trying to protect it from lightning (good luck)  I 
just want somewhere for the static to go.  I could break off the coax at 
the entrance to the house and bang a 4 ft ground rod in and call it 
good.  Thoughts?


Anyone know a cable maker who could attach a ground wire?
 



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AOL IM Screen Name --  Theory240

West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648

A division of:
Camp Communication Services, INC


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