Re: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

2007-09-24 Thread Jack Unger

Butch,

OK; I guess I owe you for the new keyboard.

Are you coming to ISPCON?  If so, I could fork over the $10.00 for the 
new keyboard.


jack


Butch Evans wrote:

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Jack Unger wrote:


I think the cause might be global swarming...


Thanks, Jack.  I have to buy a new keyboard because I just spit my 
coffee into my old one.  ROFL.




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Re: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

2007-09-23 Thread Butch Evans

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Jack Unger wrote:


I think the cause might be global swarming...


Thanks, Jack.  I have to buy a new keyboard because I just spit my 
coffee into my old one.  ROFL.


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

2007-09-23 Thread Ray Jean

Hey
This is wierd,I talked to a dish installer and a person that does scada 
climbs and they both say they have never see this before in 20 years of 
climbing.Marlon was right about them being docile.They don't seem aggressive 
at all.Red wasp here in Tenn are useally very aggressiveJack could be 
right.Global Swarming?

Ray Hill
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Jack Unger wrote:


I think the cause might be global swarming...


Thanks, Jack.  I have to buy a new keyboard because I just spit my coffee 
into my old one.  ROFL.


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

2007-09-23 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Ray,  The most likely cause is the wasps are swarming
for their Fall mating season.  NASA had the same
problem with wasps on the launch towers.  The issue is
every late August to December the males wasps seek
(and fight) for the highest point in their local
vicinity.  The male wasps are focused on getting their
pheremones out to the farthest point to attract nearby
female wasps.  According to an entomologist hired by
NASA it appears the males wasps are mistaking any
nearby tower for a tall tree or snag.  And yes they
are docile since they are focused on finding a female
not a tower climber :)

I can send the article to you hit me off list if
needed.

Felix Lopez
Utilities and Wireless Practioneer
--- Ray  Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey
 This is wierd,I talked to a dish installer and a
 person that does scada 
 climbs and they both say they have never see this
 before in 20 years of 
 climbing.Marlon was right about them being
 docile.They don't seem aggressive 
 at all.Red wasp here in Tenn are useally very
 aggressiveJack could be 
 right.Global Swarming?
 Ray Hill
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  On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Jack Unger wrote:
 
  I think the cause might be global swarming...
 
  Thanks, Jack.  I have to buy a new keyboard
 because I just spit my coffee 
  into my old one.  ROFL.
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

2007-09-21 Thread chuck
It isn't just towers either. I had a problem with my Dish from 
Dishnetwork 4 weeks ago. The guy who came out came prepared with 
bee-spray. Since I'd noticed them up there before, I asked about it. 
He said the dish had about 300 wasps that he killed by the time he 
was done with it, and he'd already been stung 3 times before he got 
to my house that day. He said it's like an epidemic...just about 
everywhere he goes (upstate NY), the antennas are stuffed with bees 
of some sort.


Chuck

At 2:25 PM -0700 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

I've seen that here too.  No idea what the cause is.

In situations like that we just get up really early in the morn and 
work before it warms up.


I HATE those danged things.  Never had them around here till the 
last several years.  I'd never even seen one as a kid.


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Subject: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

Does anyone know what causes the swarming behavior in wasps around 
towers.  I dont mean a few of them hanging out having a smoke and 
sharpening their stingers.  I mean the big swarms of hundreds.  We 
were at 4 different locations yesterday.  All of them were 
unclimbable  due to swarms of wasps.  No nests on the structures 
either.


Thanks
Chris


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

2007-09-21 Thread Jack Unger

See ??  Global Swarming...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It isn't just towers either. I had a problem with my Dish from 
Dishnetwork 4 weeks ago. The guy who came out came prepared with 
bee-spray. Since I'd noticed them up there before, I asked about it. 
He said the dish had about 300 wasps that he killed by the time he was 
done with it, and he'd already been stung 3 times before he got to my 
house that day. He said it's like an epidemic...just about everywhere 
he goes (upstate NY), the antennas are stuffed with bees of some sort.


Chuck

At 2:25 PM -0700 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

I've seen that here too.  No idea what the cause is.

In situations like that we just get up really early in the morn and 
work before it warms up.


I HATE those danged things.  Never had them around here till the last 
several years.  I'd never even seen one as a kid.


Marlon
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- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:47 AM
Subject: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

Does anyone know what causes the swarming behavior in wasps around 
towers.  I dont mean a few of them hanging out having a smoke and 
sharpening their stingers.  I mean the big swarms of hundreds.  We 
were at 4 different locations yesterday.  All of them were 
unclimbable  due to swarms of wasps.  No nests on the structures 
either.


Thanks
Chris




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RE: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

2007-09-21 Thread Mac Dearman
Jack - (Global swarming)

 Have you started on the mixed drinks already? :)

It is 5:0clock somewhere (like Holly Ridge Louisiana)


Have a great week end everyone.

Mac

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Jack Unger
 Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:26 AM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Wasps
 
 See ??  Global Swarming...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It isn't just towers either. I had a problem with my Dish from
  Dishnetwork 4 weeks ago. The guy who came out came prepared with
  bee-spray. Since I'd noticed them up there before, I asked about it.
  He said the dish had about 300 wasps that he killed by the time he
 was
  done with it, and he'd already been stung 3 times before he got to my
  house that day. He said it's like an epidemic...just about everywhere
  he goes (upstate NY), the antennas are stuffed with bees of some
 sort.
 
  Chuck
 
  At 2:25 PM -0700 9/20/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
  I've seen that here too.  No idea what the cause is.
 
  In situations like that we just get up really early in the morn and
  work before it warms up.
 
  I HATE those danged things.  Never had them around here till the
 last
  several years.  I'd never even seen one as a kid.
 
  Marlon
  (509) 982-2181
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 since
  1999!
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:47 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] OT: Wasps
 
  Does anyone know what causes the swarming behavior in wasps around
  towers.  I dont mean a few of them hanging out having a smoke and
  sharpening their stingers.  I mean the big swarms of hundreds.  We
  were at 4 different locations yesterday.  All of them were
  unclimbable  due to swarms of wasps.  No nests on the structures
  either.
 
  Thanks
  Chris
 
 
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RE: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

2007-09-20 Thread Smith, Rick
You gotta be really careful climbing.  They like to build vertical nests
in the big poles that hold up the cellular arrays... 

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Does anyone know what causes the swarming behavior in wasps around  
towers.  I dont mean a few of them hanging out having a smoke and  
sharpening their stingers.  I mean the big swarms of hundreds.  We  
were at 4 different locations yesterday.  All of them were unclimbable  
due to swarms of wasps.  No nests on the structures either.

Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

2007-09-20 Thread Butch Evans

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone know what causes the swarming behavior in wasps around 
towers.  I dont mean a few of them hanging out having a smoke and 
sharpening their stingers.  I mean the big swarms of hundreds.  We 
were at 4 different locations yesterday.  All of them were 
unclimbable due to swarms of wasps.  No nests on the structures 
either.


They are attracted to the RF for some reason.  As for climbing, they 
are generally docile (at least around here).  We usually see them 
around this time of year (or a bit later) as it starts to cool off. 
I suspect that the RF warms them.  Either way, the ones around here 
usually are around 50-150'.  It is spooky climbing through them, but 
so long as you don't set your hand on one, they are pretty calm.  I 
was on a water tower a few years ago that had HUNDREDS of wasps 
floating around the top.  Unfortunately, I was around the top, too. 
I spent 4 hours in the swarm with no stings.


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

2007-09-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

I've seen that here too.  No idea what the cause is.

In situations like that we just get up really early in the morn and work 
before it warms up.


I HATE those danged things.  Never had them around here till the last 
several years.  I'd never even seen one as a kid.


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Does anyone know what causes the swarming behavior in wasps around 
towers.  I dont mean a few of them hanging out having a smoke and 
sharpening their stingers.  I mean the big swarms of hundreds.  We  were 
at 4 different locations yesterday.  All of them were unclimbable  due to 
swarms of wasps.  No nests on the structures either.


Thanks
Chris


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

2007-09-20 Thread Jack Unger

Marlon,

I think the cause might be global swarming...



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

I've seen that here too.  No idea what the cause is.

In situations like that we just get up really early in the morn and 
work before it warms up.


I HATE those danged things.  Never had them around here till the last 
several years.  I'd never even seen one as a kid.


Marlon
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Subject: [WISPA] OT: Wasps


Does anyone know what causes the swarming behavior in wasps around 
towers.  I dont mean a few of them hanging out having a smoke and 
sharpening their stingers.  I mean the big swarms of hundreds.  We  
were at 4 different locations yesterday.  All of them were 
unclimbable  due to swarms of wasps.  No nests on the structures either.


Thanks
Chris


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Wasps

2007-09-20 Thread Rick Kunze
On my main tower, the big problem this time of year is starlings, by the Alfred 
Hitchcock movie full! They fill their beeks full of pine nuts, then park on my 
tower and . . . Well, you get the idea.  I'm shoveling pine nuts off my roof.  

Luckily they only hang around here for a couple months.

Rk
 
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:56:25 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Wasps


Marlon,

 I think the cause might be global swarming...



Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
 I've seen that here too.  No idea what the cause is.

 In situations like that we just get up really early in the morn and 
 work before it warms up.

 I HATE those danged things.  Never had them around here till the last 
 several years.  I'd never even seen one as a kid.

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 Subject: [WISPA] OT: Wasps


 Does anyone know what causes the swarming behavior in wasps around 
 towers.  I dont mean a few of them hanging out having a smoke and 
 sharpening their stingers.  I mean the big swarms of hundreds.  We  
 were at 4 different locations yesterday.  All of them were 
 unclimbable  due to swarms of wasps.  No nests on the structures either.

 Thanks
 Chris

 
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