Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra
Actually, they use 256QAM and 30Mhz of spectrum on multiple polarities to achieve the throughput. -Matt Paul Hendry wrote: Hi guys, Looking at getting a couple of Spectra’s but was wondering if someone could enlighten me a little. The Spectra can supposedly achieve 300mb aggregate throughput. Do Orthogon achieve this by using compression? If so, what sort of rate are you likely to get in ideal conditions but using highly compressed data? Does anyone know what the difference is between the Spectra and the Spectra lite? Cheers, P. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra
So thats 297.63Mbps regardless of the type of traffic? The thing I wasnt sure about was exactly what the difference between Spectra and Lite where. Is it purely that the lite can only achieve 150Mbps? If for example you can only achieve 100Mbps with the Spectra would you also get 100Mbps if you used the Lite on the same link? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: 13 December 2005 19:21 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra Paul, I just predicted a 4 km link with OS Spectra. Max. Aggregate Throughput tops out at 297.63 Mbps. Mean max user throughput in either direction is 233.98 Mbps. A 2' 29.4 dBi dish on ONE end achieves 100% uptime in 256 QAM Dual mode with .05 mins of outtage/yr (seven 9s) with 7.86 dB fade margin. It's much the same with the Spectra Lite, but max aggregate is capped at 148.82 Mbps and max in either direction at 116.99. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra
Matt is correct, you must use dual pol antennas or two antennas with diversity to achieve this throughput. How long is the link you want to do? I can give you a good idea on throughput if you send me the longitude and latitude of the end points and heights of antennas. The Spectra Light is the same hardware and can be upgraded to a full Spectra link by buying a key. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra Actually, they use 256QAM and 30Mhz of spectrum on multiple polarities to achieve the throughput. -Matt Paul Hendry wrote: Hi guys, Looking at getting a couple of Spectra's but was wondering if someone could enlighten me a little. The Spectra can supposedly achieve 300mb aggregate throughput. Do Orthogon achieve this by using compression? If so, what sort of rate are you likely to get in ideal conditions but using highly compressed data? Does anyone know what the difference is between the Spectra and the Spectra lite? Cheers, P. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra
No the Lite will always be half of the full version.If the Spectra will do 132M then the lite will only do 66M. Same with the Gemini and the Gemini Lite Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Paul Hendry To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra So that’s 297.63Mbps regardless of the type of traffic? The thing I wasn’t sure about was exactly what the difference between Spectra and Lite where. Is it purely that the lite can only achieve 150Mbps? If for example you can only achieve 100Mbps with the Spectra would you also get 100Mbps if you used the Lite on the same link? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan OliverSent: 13 December 2005 19:21To: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra Paul,I just predicted a 4 km link with OS Spectra. Max. Aggregate Throughput tops out at 297.63 Mbps. Mean max user throughput in either direction is 233.98 Mbps. A 2' 29.4 dBi dish on ONE end achieves "100%" uptime in 256 QAM Dual mode with .05 mins of outtage/yr (seven 9s) with 7.86 dB fade margin.It's much the same with the Spectra Lite, but max aggregate is capped at 148.82 Mbps and max in either direction at 116.99.Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra
I don't mean to be negative, but I get calls from their sales guys - I ask some simple questions and can't get them answered, so I don't buy them. I'm all ears about their backhauls.. *seem* like a great deal to me. Paul Hendry wrote: Hi guys, Looking at getting a couple of Spectra’s but was wondering if someone could enlighten me a little. The Spectra can supposedly achieve 300mb aggregate throughput. Do Orthogon achieve this by using compression? If so, what sort of rate are you likely to get in ideal conditions but using highly compressed data? Does anyone know what the difference is between the Spectra and the Spectra lite? Cheers, P. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra
So is it that the lite wont do 256QAM or just the software says if we can get xMbps only let em have half? Is compression used at all on these units? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: 13 December 2005 20:44 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra No the Lite will always be half of the full version.If the Spectra will do 132M then the lite will only do 66M. Same with the Gemini and the Gemini Lite Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Paul Hendry To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra So thats 297.63Mbps regardless of the type of traffic? The thing I wasnt sure about was exactly what the difference between Spectra and Lite where. Is it purely that the lite can only achieve 150Mbps? If for example you can only achieve 100Mbps with the Spectra would you also get 100Mbps if you used the Lite on the same link? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: 13 December 2005 19:21 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra Paul, I just predicted a 4 km link with OS Spectra. Max. Aggregate Throughput tops out at 297.63 Mbps. Mean max user throughput in either direction is 233.98 Mbps. A 2' 29.4 dBi dish on ONE end achieves 100% uptime in 256 QAM Dual mode with .05 mins of outtage/yr (seven 9s) with 7.86 dB fade margin. It's much the same with the Spectra Lite, but max aggregate is capped at 148.82 Mbps and max in either direction at 116.99. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra
Its the total divided in half by the software from what I have been told. This would make sense since it can be upgraded to the higher speed. I do not think that compression is used at all but I am not for sure. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Paul Hendry To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 3:23 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra So is it that the lite won’t do 256QAM or just the software says if we can get xMbps only let em have half? Is compression used at all on these units? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory PrivettSent: 13 December 2005 20:44To: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra No the Lite will always be half of the full version.If the Spectra will do 132M then the lite will only do 66M. Same with the Gemini and the Gemini Lite Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Paul Hendry To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra So that’s 297.63Mbps regardless of the type of traffic? The thing I wasn’t sure about was exactly what the difference between Spectra and Lite where. Is it purely that the lite can only achieve 150Mbps? If for example you can only achieve 100Mbps with the Spectra would you also get 100Mbps if you used the Lite on the same link? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan OliverSent: 13 December 2005 19:21To: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra Paul,I just predicted a 4 km link with OS Spectra. Max. Aggregate Throughput tops out at 297.63 Mbps. Mean max user throughput in either direction is 233.98 Mbps. A 2' 29.4 dBi dish on ONE end achieves "100%" uptime in 256 QAM Dual mode with .05 mins of outtage/yr (seven 9s) with 7.86 dB fade margin.It's much the same with the Spectra Lite, but max aggregate is capped at 148.82 Mbps and max in either direction at 116.99.Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra
There is no compression used. I can't imagine they half the throughput for the lite version, but I don't know. I would expect the unit is simply capped. -Matt Paul Hendry wrote: So is it that the lite won’t do 256QAM or just the software says if we can get xMbps only let em have half? Is compression used at all on these units? *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jory Privett *Sent:* 13 December 2005 20:44 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra No the Lite will always be half of the full version. If the Spectra will do 132M then the lite will only do 66M. Same with the Gemini and the Gemini Lite Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - *From:* Paul Hendry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:05 PM *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra So that’s 297.63Mbps regardless of the type of traffic? The thing I wasn’t sure about was exactly what the difference between Spectra and Lite where. Is it purely that the lite can only achieve 150Mbps? If for example you can only achieve 100Mbps with the Spectra would you also get 100Mbps if you used the Lite on the same link? *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dylan Oliver *Sent:* 13 December 2005 19:21 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra Paul, I just predicted a 4 km link with OS Spectra. Max. Aggregate Throughput tops out at 297.63 Mbps. Mean max user throughput in either direction is 233.98 Mbps. A 2' 29.4 dBi dish on ONE end achieves 100% uptime in 256 QAM Dual mode with .05 mins of outtage/yr (seven 9s) with 7.86 dB fade margin. It's much the same with the Spectra Lite, but max aggregate is capped at 148.82 Mbps and max in either direction at 116.99. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra
So if the lite is just capped then there would be no reason to use the Spectra if the max throughput on a link was less than 150Mbps? Anyone know for sure? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: 13 December 2005 21:30 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra There is no compression used. I can't imagine they half the throughput for the lite version, but I don't know. I would expect the unit is simply capped. -Matt Paul Hendry wrote: So is it that the lite won’t do 256QAM or just the software says if we can get xMbps only let em have half? Is compression used at all on these units? *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jory Privett *Sent:* 13 December 2005 20:44 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra No the Lite will always be half of the full version. If the Spectra will do 132M then the lite will only do 66M. Same with the Gemini and the Gemini Lite Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - *From:* Paul Hendry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:05 PM *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra So that’s 297.63Mbps regardless of the type of traffic? The thing I wasn’t sure about was exactly what the difference between Spectra and Lite where. Is it purely that the lite can only achieve 150Mbps? If for example you can only achieve 100Mbps with the Spectra would you also get 100Mbps if you used the Lite on the same link? *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dylan Oliver *Sent:* 13 December 2005 19:21 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra Paul, I just predicted a 4 km link with OS Spectra. Max. Aggregate Throughput tops out at 297.63 Mbps. Mean max user throughput in either direction is 233.98 Mbps. A 2' 29.4 dBi dish on ONE end achieves 100% uptime in 256 QAM Dual mode with .05 mins of outtage/yr (seven 9s) with 7.86 dB fade margin. It's much the same with the Spectra Lite, but max aggregate is capped at 148.82 Mbps and max in either direction at 116.99. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra
That would be my viewpoint, but YOU should really check with the vendor. -Matt Paul Hendry wrote: So if the lite is just capped then there would be no reason to use the Spectra if the max throughput on a link was less than 150Mbps? Anyone know for sure? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: 13 December 2005 21:30 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra There is no compression used. I can't imagine they half the throughput for the lite version, but I don't know. I would expect the unit is simply capped. -Matt Paul Hendry wrote: So is it that the lite won’t do 256QAM or just the software says if we can get xMbps only let em have half? Is compression used at all on these units? *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jory Privett *Sent:* 13 December 2005 20:44 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra No the Lite will always be half of the full version. If the Spectra will do 132M then the lite will only do 66M. Same with the Gemini and the Gemini Lite Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - *From:* Paul Hendry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:05 PM *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra So that’s 297.63Mbps regardless of the type of traffic? The thing I wasn’t sure about was exactly what the difference between Spectra and Lite where. Is it purely that the lite can only achieve 150Mbps? If for example you can only achieve 100Mbps with the Spectra would you also get 100Mbps if you used the Lite on the same link? *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dylan Oliver *Sent:* 13 December 2005 19:21 *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Orthogon Spectra Paul, I just predicted a 4 km link with OS Spectra. Max. Aggregate Throughput tops out at 297.63 Mbps. Mean max user throughput in either direction is 233.98 Mbps. A 2' 29.4 dBi dish on ONE end achieves 100% uptime in 256 QAM Dual mode with .05 mins of outtage/yr (seven 9s) with 7.86 dB fade margin. It's much the same with the Spectra Lite, but max aggregate is capped at 148.82 Mbps and max in either direction at 116.99. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/198 - Release Date: 12/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
