Jeff Broadwick wrote:
Hi Ryan,
I realize this is somewhat tangential to your main point, but I wanted to
point out that EIGRP/IGRP aren't standard protocols, nor will they work with
any other router, necessarily. If you are shying away from proprietary
equipment, Cisco's proprietary routing
Off the subject, but if you are a major operator then you are most
certainly using cisco in your core, and eigrp is standard in cisco
enviroments and makes sense if it's available to you. Like 802.1q and
ISL - you could do 802.1q and interoperate, or just ISL and have the
benefits of better
NO, MY TOY. You can't have it. :o
I am thinking of a summer Hotspot at our Marina and beach this year.
You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees.
Carl A Jeptha
http://www.jeptha.com
905-349-2027
skype cajeptha
Butch Evans wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Carl A jeptha
Hi Mike,
Off the subject, but if you are a major operator then you are most
certainly using cisco in your core,
You might be surprised. That might have been true at one point, but
probably is not now. :-)
and eigrp is standard in cisco enviroments and makes sense if it's
available to you.
Hi Jeff,
Please don't get me started on imagestream... but anyways, the real
stuff that really works - cisco - doesn't come in small form factor /
extended temprature range and low power, is all I was saying. We use
linux on Soekris with our own special blend (and 6mb) of linux for
these
Jeff, do you have a source for the statement that Cisco now recommends BGP
(iBGP?) vs EIGRP?
On 12/30/06, Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then it's not a standard, but a proprietary protocol. Actually, Cisco
generally recommends BGP at this point and not EIGRP.
Best,
--
Dylan
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Jeff, do you have a source for the statement that Cisco now recommends
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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:24 PM
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Butch Evans wrote:
It is my contention (and yours, it seems) that a router
at the CPE
: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...
Butch Evans wrote:
It is my contention (and yours, it seems) that a router
at the CPE is necessary.
BINGO.
Qwest DSL has a router at every customer. Ever taken a look at what
those Actiontec wireless dsl routers do...
As we stated
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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:51 PM
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Right guys, I accept all that may be true but even in the DSL world,
customers
318.303.4182
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Can anyone just answer the questions I had without
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote:
Why not stick with Tranzeo or one
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote:
Why not stick with Tranzeo or one of the other legal
(FCC
, December 28, 2006 10:32 PM
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Seemed kind close to my home is all.
All the Best in 2007.
Lonnie
This footnote confirms
. G'night. Be safe this New Years. ...and BE LEGAL!
Patrick
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Then you
is it
illegal?
Rich
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Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:44 AM
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Lonnie,
Patrick has a valid point. Truthfully, its getting close to that time
N White wrote, On 12/28/2006 11:30 PM:
Nick. Is. A. God. (and has EXCELLENT reading comprehension!)
Correction. It's late, I'm tired, and have had too much wine. I meant
that the TRCPQ is Atheros based, not TRCPE. This is from a Tranzeo list:
The CPE90 is
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Then you must not be aware that Lonnie is now also selling the complete
package.
The newest product is Star V3, Atheros cm9 and a gateworks
Hire Jack Unger. He was patient enough to beat all the rules into my
head eventually.
C
If you hire a consultant that doesn't at least explain all of this to
you,
go hire a new consultant. The one you have either doesn't know the
rules or
he's only in it to take your money. And if he'll take
appreciate anyone who could
kick some sense into me should I be all wet.
Peace,
Rich
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From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
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Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...
OK, lets
Hi Ryan,
My favorite AP setup for 2.4 is StarOS/Orinoco card/YDI amplifier/YDI
180deg sector antenna - however some of these parts are getting harder
to find and/or don't work for a lot of situations. So here is the most
common one that I am deploying as of late:
StarOS/prism2511/tranzeo
, 2006 12:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...
OK, lets be clear on what the rules are today guys. (Why did I know
that
THIS thread was gonna turn out to be a ton of fun (said the pot to the
kettle))
Here's how it works. If you have a AP out
Mark McElvy wrote:
In general what is considered a better combination, lower powered radio
w/ higher gain antenna or higher powered radio w/ lower gain antenna?
Mark
Rule of thumbs, keep the beamwidth to a minimum and use the lowest power
needed to get the job done. These two rules will let
I have used a tr5a against an MT AP and no problems. I also use Tranzeo
6000 for AP's and really don't see them slowing down. They also act as
Backhaul AP's (at the same time) in PTMP mode for other microcell
backhauls. Granted we don't have amount of clients that you have. We
actually use the
things you
should be using.
Regards,
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:15 AM
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On Dec 28, 2006, at 8:44
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Carl A jeptha wrote:
Backhaul CPE for some of our lighter microcells. My main Gateway is
an MT, my Router board (with a valid License) is packed away
waiting for me to decide something great to do with it. Come on
Butch tell me something :-)
Ummmyou can send it to
Ryan,
Why not stick with Tranzeo or one of the other legal (FCC-certified)
brands? There's no need to go the illegal route and that includes even
price these days. Plus, with a legal product you'll get the benefit of
support and a warranty.
Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
I have been looking at the Microtik line of products with an SR2
400mW Atheros radio in it.
Does anyone have any input as to what direction to go?
Really, this depends on what you want the AP to actually do (other
than be a simple AP). I like the
On Dec 28, 2006, at 8:52 PM, Butch Evans wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
I have been looking at the Microtik line of products with an SR2
400mW Atheros radio in it.
Does anyone have any input as to what direction to go?
Really, this depends on what you want the AP to
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote:
Why not stick with Tranzeo or one of the other legal
(FCC-certified) brands?
Good idea, Patrick, but it doesn't answer the question that was
asked.
--
Butch Evans
Network Engineering and Security Consulting
573-276-2879
http://www.butchevans.com/
On Dec 28, 2006, at 8:44 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:
Ryan,
Why not stick with Tranzeo or one of the other legal (FCC-
certified) brands?
Are you trying to troll? :) I am using all Tranzeo gear now. I am
also looking for other options. I have 2 6500 series radios up at
this site. They are
: 650.641.1243
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote:
Why
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On Dec 28, 2006, at 8:44
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote:
Why not stick with Tranzeo or one of the other legal
(FCC-certified
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On Thu, 28
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
I agree. Other than some *cough*open source*cough*licensing
issues*cough* I can see that there is lots that can be done with
the Microtik.
Open source has nothing to do with it. Mikrotik does adhere to the
open source licensing requirement. As for
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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:02 PM
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Patrick
Of Butch Evans
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote:
Why not stick with Tranzeo or one of the other legal
(FCC-certified) brands?
Good idea, Patrick
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:18 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...
Lonnie,
Not sure why you are fired up. Your product is software that gets loaded
into hardware so I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about illegal
hardware and what is untrue about
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
IF someone built a product that would perform anywhere near as well
and had anywhere NEAR the features, I might consider buying it.
As much as I am intrigued by your VL product, every time I look at
it, I remind myself that in order to be even
:00 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote:
Why not stick with Tranzeo or one of the other legal
(FCC-certified) brands?
Good idea, Patrick, but it doesn't answer the question that was
asked.
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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:32 PM
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Seemed kind
Butch Evans wrote:
It is my contention (and yours, it seems) that a router
at the CPE is necessary.
BINGO.
Qwest DSL has a router at every customer. Ever taken a look at what
those Actiontec wireless dsl routers do...
As we stated in an earlier thread, those pesky routers matter more
: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote:
Why not stick with Tranzeo or one of the other legal
(FCC-certified) brands?
Good idea, Patrick, but it doesn't answer the question that was
asked.
--
Butch Evans
Network Engineering and Security Consulting
, Inc.
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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:32 PM
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: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...
Butch Evans wrote:
It is my contention (and yours, it seems) that a router
at the CPE is necessary.
BINGO.
Qwest DSL has a router at every customer. Ever taken a look
Patrick Leary wrote:
Right guys, I accept all that may be true but even in the DSL world,
customers provide their own routers and that is certainly true of
commercial customers.
Not in the Qwest DSL world. at least the resi stuff they sell.
Comes with an actiontec or 2wire wireless router
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