RE: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story
I'm NOT reading this right when you combine 46 Mbps and 900 mhz in the same paragraph ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story Just completed install for client, that we quoted blind. The supposed Near-LOS partial freznel obstruction from a building, unfortuneately turned out to really mean NON-LOS through thick row of pine trees between buildings. Buildings were probably 600 yards away from each other. The Trango built-in antenna model installed pulled 46 mbps throughput and zero packet loss, perfect link. WooHoo. (I know short distance, but pine trees scare me, and often have unpredictable results even when doing 900Mhz). Only negative thing was Trango made the profit, allowing me only to make $200 markup, instead of the original $1500, that I had originally covered in my quote with a Routerboard 532 solution, that didn't get the 30mbps capacity requirement. My pocket book, wishes I had the War/V3 solution a week earlier :-( Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: StarOS Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] Re: StarOS With the nazi administration currently in power, one should think twice before deciding someone shouldn't be allowed to say or write things. But, I must say this statement is like a Linux loon calling FreeBSD crap. - cw JohnnyO wrote: I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS ! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireles s/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireles s/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireles s/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story
Tom, How would the WAR/V3 solution have worked any better than the Routerboard 532 solution? You had to know that the RB532 would only do about 20Mbps of actual throughput, so why would you quote that to begin with? Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Just completed install for client, that we quoted blind. The supposed Near-LOS partial freznel obstruction from a building, unfortuneately turned out to really mean NON-LOS through thick row of pine trees between buildings. Buildings were probably 600 yards away from each other. The Trango built-in antenna model installed pulled 46 mbps throughput and zero packet loss, perfect link. WooHoo. (I know short distance, but pine trees scare me, and often have unpredictable results even when doing 900Mhz). Only negative thing was Trango made the profit, allowing me only to make $200 markup, instead of the original $1500, that I had originally covered in my quote with a Routerboard 532 solution, that didn't get the 30mbps capacity requirement. My pocket book, wishes I had the War/V3 solution a week earlier :-( Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: StarOS Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] Re: StarOS With the nazi administration currently in power, one should think twice before deciding someone shouldn't be allowed to say or write things. But, I must say this statement is like a Linux loon calling FreeBSD crap. - cw JohnnyO wrote: I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS ! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story
Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story I'm NOT reading this right when you combine 46 Mbps and 900 mhz in the same paragraph ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story Just completed install for client, that we quoted blind. The supposed Near-LOS partial freznel obstruction from a building, unfortuneately turned out to really mean NON-LOS through thick row of pine trees between buildings. Buildings were probably 600 yards away from each other. The Trango built-in antenna model installed pulled 46 mbps throughput and zero packet loss, perfect link. WooHoo. (I know short distance, but pine trees scare me, and often have unpredictable results even when doing 900Mhz). Only negative thing was Trango made the profit, allowing me only to make $200 markup, instead of the original $1500, that I had originally covered in my quote with a Routerboard 532 solution, that didn't get the 30mbps capacity requirement. My pocket book, wishes I had the War/V3 solution a week earlier :-( Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: StarOS Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] Re: StarOS With the nazi administration currently in power, one should think twice before deciding someone shouldn't be allowed to say or write things. But, I must say this statement is like a Linux loon calling FreeBSD crap. - cw JohnnyO wrote: I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS ! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireles s/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireles s/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireles s/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story
Tom, Am I missing your reply .? this is the 2nd post from you this am that is only you signature. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story I'm NOT reading this right when you combine 46 Mbps and 900 mhz in the same paragraph ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story Just completed install for client, that we quoted blind. The supposed Near-LOS partial freznel obstruction from a building, unfortuneately turned out to really mean NON-LOS through thick row of pine trees between buildings. Buildings were probably 600 yards away from each other. The Trango built-in antenna model installed pulled 46 mbps throughput and zero packet loss, perfect link. WooHoo. (I know short distance, but pine trees scare me, and often have unpredictable results even when doing 900Mhz). Only negative thing was Trango made the profit, allowing me only to make $200 markup, instead of the original $1500, that I had originally covered in my quote with a Routerboard 532 solution, that didn't get the 30mbps capacity requirement. My pocket book, wishes I had the War/V3 solution a week earlier :-( Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: StarOS Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] Re: StarOS With the nazi administration currently in power, one should think twice before deciding someone shouldn't be allowed to say or write things. But, I must say this statement is like a Linux loon calling FreeBSD crap. - cw JohnnyO wrote: I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS ! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireles s/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireles s/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireles s/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story
Travis, How would the WAR/V3 solution have worked any better than the Routerboard 532 solution? The WAR board has faster CPU, and can push the full 35 mbps. The solution needed to be a fully outdoor mountable system. You had to know that the RB532 would only do about 20Mbps of actual throughput, so why would you quote that to begin with? Actually not at the time I quotes. It was a big undersight on my part, I should have know based on our many list debates from months earlier. From previous testing months earlier I understood that I could get 14-15Mbps second with one CM9 at 10 miles. I had Atheros capabilty on mind, and forgot about CPU need. So I thought that when I used Nstreme2 combining 2 CM9s or Turbo Mode or both I'd get double speed thus 30mb (I forgot Nstreme was for Full Duplex instead of channel combining when quoting, where was my head?) . What I learned two weeks ago in lab testing, preparing for the install, after quoting the customer, was that the bottleneck was the Mainboard CPU speed. When I realized my mistake, I called the customer and converted the quote to a Trango unit, which I thought should work best to meet spec. The big mistake I made was that I forgot all about WAR boards. The quote specificed True bridging, and at the time I did not realize that StarOS V3 supported True Bridging. I learned after the fact, that it does. It was an important client of mine, and I did not want to use something that I had not tested or used yet personally, So I ate the profit margin based on time constraints and maintaining professionalism not jerking the customer around with new solutions every day. The reason I was limited by Trango, is that Trango has a web presence and lists retail costs, which my customer will see when they inquire about what we are providing them, when I sell StarOS or Mikrotik it is an OEM solution, so they do not have a reference of what my solution is typically sold at, as its branded as our radio brand. I like Trango alot for my needs as an ISP. It gives me the remote troubleshooting tool and management features I need. But when I sell a link to a end user, they don;t need those same benefits. The OEM solution easilly met their need from a softwre perspective, if not more, with the added routing OS type features. My take on this is that for the reseller, OEM Branded WAR/StarOSV3 system (or Mikrotik within its speed capabilties) is the solutions that will allow integrators to make maximum profit margins. For example, I'd argue that for resale, it could pass traffic equivellent to the Alvarion BH100, and the $1000 solution could be sold for up to $7000 maximizing profit potential, or at least a couple $1000 markup. I'm not saying the more expensive main brand gear doesn;t have unique valuable features wirth buying the gear for, I'm jsut saying the unique feature of the WAR solution, is that it now has reached the speed capacity of the many high cost PtP solutions, (Redline, Orhtogon, Ceragon, Avlarion, Etc) and can compete on the criteria of speed. I usually do not make purchasing decissions on resale advantages, because I am usually a provider that buys product for my own use, and its not about the profit, its about the benefit of features to me as the user. But this case was a resale transaction that I did, and from a resale point of view, it solved the customer's problem, but it did not solve mine, which was to maximize profitabilty of the job. (of course I got labor fee, that helped). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story Tom, How would the WAR/V3 solution have worked any better than the Routerboard 532 solution? You had to know that the RB532 would only do about 20Mbps of actual throughput, so why would you quote that to begin with? Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Just completed install for client, that we quoted blind. The supposed Near-LOS partial freznel obstruction from a building, unfortuneately turned out to really mean NON-LOS through thick row of pine trees between buildings. Buildings were probably 600 yards away from each other. The Trango built-in antenna model installed pulled 46 mbps throughput and zero packet loss, perfect link. WooHoo. (I know short distance, but pine trees scare me, and often have unpredictable results even when doing 900Mhz). Only negative thing was Trango made the profit, allowing me only to make $200 markup, instead of the original $1500, that I had originally covered in my quote with a Routerboard 532 solution, that didn't get the 30mbps capacity requirement. My pocket book, wishes I had the War/V3 solution a week earlier :-( Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless
Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story
Tom, The other issue regarding RB532 or StarOS on a WAR board is the lack of FCC certification. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Travis, How would the WAR/V3 solution have worked any better than the Routerboard 532 solution? The WAR board has faster CPU, and can push the full 35 mbps. The solution needed to be a fully outdoor mountable system. You had to know that the RB532 would only do about 20Mbps of actual throughput, so why would you quote that to begin with? Actually not at the time I quotes. It was a big undersight on my part, I should have know based on our many list debates from months earlier. From previous testing months earlier I understood that I could get 14-15Mbps second with one CM9 at 10 miles. I had Atheros capabilty on mind, and forgot about CPU need. So I thought that when I used Nstreme2 combining 2 CM9s or Turbo Mode or both I'd get double speed thus 30mb (I forgot Nstreme was for Full Duplex instead of channel combining when quoting, where was my head?) . What I learned two weeks ago in lab testing, preparing for the install, after quoting the customer, was that the bottleneck was the Mainboard CPU speed. When I realized my mistake, I called the customer and converted the quote to a Trango unit, which I thought should work best to meet spec. The big mistake I made was that I forgot all about WAR boards. The quote specificed True bridging, and at the time I did not realize that StarOS V3 supported True Bridging. I learned after the fact, that it does. It was an important client of mine, and I did not want to use something that I had not tested or used yet personally, So I ate the profit margin based on time constraints and maintaining professionalism not jerking the customer around with new solutions every day. The reason I was limited by Trango, is that Trango has a web presence and lists retail costs, which my customer will see when they inquire about what we are providing them, when I sell StarOS or Mikrotik it is an OEM solution, so they do not have a reference of what my solution is typically sold at, as its branded as our radio brand. I like Trango alot for my needs as an ISP. It gives me the remote troubleshooting tool and management features I need. But when I sell a link to a end user, they don;t need those same benefits. The OEM solution easilly met their need from a softwre perspective, if not more, with the added routing OS type features. My take on this is that for the reseller, OEM Branded WAR/StarOSV3 system (or Mikrotik within its speed capabilties) is the solutions that will allow integrators to make maximum profit margins. For example, I'd argue that for resale, it could pass traffic equivellent to the Alvarion BH100, and the $1000 solution could be sold for up to $7000 maximizing profit potential, or at least a couple $1000 markup. I'm not saying the more expensive main brand gear doesn;t have unique valuable features wirth buying the gear for, I'm jsut saying the unique feature of the WAR solution, is that it now has reached the speed capacity of the many high cost PtP solutions, (Redline, Orhtogon, Ceragon, Avlarion, Etc) and can compete on the criteria of speed. I usually do not make purchasing decissions on resale advantages, because I am usually a provider that buys product for my own use, and its not about the profit, its about the benefit of features to me as the user. But this case was a resale transaction that I did, and from a resale point of view, it solved the customer's problem, but it did not solve mine, which was to maximize profitabilty of the job. (of course I got labor fee, that helped). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story Tom, How would the WAR/V3 solution have worked any better than the Routerboard 532 solution? You had to know that the RB532 would only do about 20Mbps of actual throughput, so why would you quote that to begin with? Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Just completed install for client, that we quoted blind. The supposed Near-LOS partial freznel obstruction from a building, unfortuneately turned out to really mean NON-LOS through thick row of pine trees between buildings. Buildings were probably 600 yards away from each other. The Trango built-in antenna model installed pulled 46 mbps throughput and zero packet loss, perfect link. WooHoo. (I know short distance, but pine trees scare me, and often have unpredictable results even when doing 900Mhz). Only negative thing was Trango made the profit, allowing me only to make $200 markup, instead of the original $1500, that I had originally covered in my quote with a Routerboard 532 solution, that didn't get the 30mbps capacity
Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story
Exactly. Which is why those two vendors need to give more for less. The benefit has to be so great, that its worth taking the chance to use it. With the newer more flexible rules though, its much safer to install than 2 years ago, giving us more selection of antenna brands. And just because uncertified gear is used, doesn't mean that its not certifiable. Its important that a consistent product line is used, that would meet the certification, if ever required to get certified. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story Tom, The other issue regarding RB532 or StarOS on a WAR board is the lack of FCC certification. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Travis, How would the WAR/V3 solution have worked any better than the Routerboard 532 solution? The WAR board has faster CPU, and can push the full 35 mbps. The solution needed to be a fully outdoor mountable system. You had to know that the RB532 would only do about 20Mbps of actual throughput, so why would you quote that to begin with? Actually not at the time I quotes. It was a big undersight on my part, I should have know based on our many list debates from months earlier. From previous testing months earlier I understood that I could get 14-15Mbps second with one CM9 at 10 miles. I had Atheros capabilty on mind, and forgot about CPU need. So I thought that when I used Nstreme2 combining 2 CM9s or Turbo Mode or both I'd get double speed thus 30mb (I forgot Nstreme was for Full Duplex instead of channel combining when quoting, where was my head?) . What I learned two weeks ago in lab testing, preparing for the install, after quoting the customer, was that the bottleneck was the Mainboard CPU speed. When I realized my mistake, I called the customer and converted the quote to a Trango unit, which I thought should work best to meet spec. The big mistake I made was that I forgot all about WAR boards. The quote specificed True bridging, and at the time I did not realize that StarOS V3 supported True Bridging. I learned after the fact, that it does. It was an important client of mine, and I did not want to use something that I had not tested or used yet personally, So I ate the profit margin based on time constraints and maintaining professionalism not jerking the customer around with new solutions every day. The reason I was limited by Trango, is that Trango has a web presence and lists retail costs, which my customer will see when they inquire about what we are providing them, when I sell StarOS or Mikrotik it is an OEM solution, so they do not have a reference of what my solution is typically sold at, as its branded as our radio brand. I like Trango alot for my needs as an ISP. It gives me the remote troubleshooting tool and management features I need. But when I sell a link to a end user, they don;t need those same benefits. The OEM solution easilly met their need from a softwre perspective, if not more, with the added routing OS type features. My take on this is that for the reseller, OEM Branded WAR/StarOSV3 system (or Mikrotik within its speed capabilties) is the solutions that will allow integrators to make maximum profit margins. For example, I'd argue that for resale, it could pass traffic equivellent to the Alvarion BH100, and the $1000 solution could be sold for up to $7000 maximizing profit potential, or at least a couple $1000 markup. I'm not saying the more expensive main brand gear doesn;t have unique valuable features wirth buying the gear for, I'm jsut saying the unique feature of the WAR solution, is that it now has reached the speed capacity of the many high cost PtP solutions, (Redline, Orhtogon, Ceragon, Avlarion, Etc) and can compete on the criteria of speed. I usually do not make purchasing decissions on resale advantages, because I am usually a provider that buys product for my own use, and its not about the profit, its about the benefit of features to me as the user. But this case was a resale transaction that I did, and from a resale point of view, it solved the customer's problem, but it did not solve mine, which was to maximize profitabilty of the job. (of course I got labor fee, that helped). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story Tom, How would the WAR/V3 solution have worked any better than the Routerboard 532 solution? You had to know that the RB532 would only do about 20Mbps of actual throughput, so why would you quote that to begin with? Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote
Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story
Tom, Real basic question: Can you explain the comment on wishing to have the War/V3 solution? What would War/V3 have given you? Mario Tom DeReggi wrote: Just completed install for client, that we quoted blind. The supposed Near-LOS partial freznel obstruction from a building, unfortuneately turned out to really mean NON-LOS through thick row of pine trees between buildings. Buildings were probably 600 yards away from each other. The Trango built-in antenna model installed pulled 46 mbps throughput and zero packet loss, perfect link. WooHoo. (I know short distance, but pine trees scare me, and often have unpredictable results even when doing 900Mhz). Only negative thing was Trango made the profit, allowing me only to make $200 markup, instead of the original $1500, that I had originally covered in my quote with a Routerboard 532 solution, that didn't get the 30mbps capacity requirement. My pocket book, wishes I had the War/V3 solution a week earlier :-( Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: StarOS Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] Re: StarOS With the nazi administration currently in power, one should think twice before deciding someone shouldn't be allowed to say or write things. But, I must say this statement is like a Linux loon calling FreeBSD crap. - cw JohnnyO wrote: I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS ! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story
I assume you are asking about Trango... Initially, we used the native trango tests, linktest 54 54, and got 45 mbps actual throughput. In addition, the technician used Iperf TCP from the two laptops plugged directly into the radios. I'm not sure the exact speed the tech got with Iperf, but he said it was within 1 mbps of the linktest. If you are asking about WAR/V3, never represented could do over 35 mbps. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story Tom, What did you use to test the actual throughput of the link? Even on the bench with two laptops I was never able to get more than 35Mbps of actual tcp throughput. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: The WAR/V3 would have given me profit. I probably would have only got 35mbps instead of the 45mbps, but the specs of job was 30 mbps. $3000-$1000 means I'd have $2000 in my pocket, and today for lunch I'd be eating steak instead of canned Tuna. As stated before, its not about what is the best product, its about what meets spec. And as much as I like to support Trango, and as much as I like their gear, I'm not on their payroll. The customer was buying my reputation, not the manufacturers, so I had the option to put anything there, that I wanted and would stand behind that met specification. But I didn't mean to dwell on that point, this thread was meant to praise the top performance that I got out of the Trango unit. I never got the full 45 mbps out of their unit before, and it did it through a pine tree. I am always pleased when expectations have been exceeded. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mario Pommier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story Tom, Real basic question: Can you explain the comment on wishing to have the War/V3 solution? What would War/V3 have given you? Mario Tom DeReggi wrote: Just completed install for client, that we quoted blind. The supposed Near-LOS partial freznel obstruction from a building, unfortuneately turned out to really mean NON-LOS through thick row of pine trees between buildings. Buildings were probably 600 yards away from each other. The Trango built-in antenna model installed pulled 46 mbps throughput and zero packet loss, perfect link. WooHoo. (I know short distance, but pine trees scare me, and often have unpredictable results even when doing 900Mhz). Only negative thing was Trango made the profit, allowing me only to make $200 markup, instead of the original $1500, that I had originally covered in my quote with a Routerboard 532 solution, that didn't get the 30mbps capacity requirement. My pocket book, wishes I had the War/V3 solution a week earlier :-( Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: StarOS Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] Re: StarOS With the nazi administration currently in power, one should think twice before deciding someone shouldn't be allowed to say or write things. But, I must say this statement is like a Linux loon calling FreeBSD crap. - cw JohnnyO wrote: I was not interested in reading posts labled Routerboard 532 and Star-OS crap. If I were interested in Star-OS crap instead of Mikrotik, then I would look for posts labled Star-OS ! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
