Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-03 Thread Carl A jeptha
Well done Sam, move to the top of the class. Notice when you do it to someone else(England) it is ok, but do it to your own goverment it is breaking the law? Weren't Laws made to be broken :-\ You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-03 Thread Carl A jeptha
When I had to get my citizenship I had to pass a language test, so I remember that it is eh, eh. 8-) You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha George Rogato wrote: eh? I thought it was aye Lonnie

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Alan Cain
Dawn DiPietro wrote: Mark, Justify it anyway you like. Civil disobedience is not a viable solution. I don't see a large number of people stepping up to the plate and defending your position. Whoa, there now! Civil disobedience is always a viable solution. This IS America (at least where

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2 May 2007, Alan Cain wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: Justify it anyway you like. Civil disobedience is not a viable solution. I don't see a large number of people stepping up to the plate and defending your position. Whoa, there now! Civil disobedience is always a viable solution.

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
In the 60's and '70's most of us would taken a much firmer stance. We got old and worried about offending somebody. And then we worried that somebody would punish us for taking our stand. One thing is for sure, the Telcos would not have stood for such a bum's rush. The FCC and FBI guys would

RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread chris cooper
:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? In the 60's and '70's most of us would taken a much firmer stance. We got old and worried about offending somebody. And then we worried that somebody would punish us for taking our stand. One thing is for sure

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Changing the laws happens MUCH quicker if a mass of people openly oppose it. Your country was founded on that very principle. Lonnie On 5/2/07, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Alan Cain wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: Justify it anyway you like. Civil disobedience is

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Alan Cain wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: Justify it anyway you like. Civil disobedience is not a viable solution. I don't see a large number of people stepping up to the plate and defending your position. Whoa, there now! Civil disobedience is always

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
for inflation. c -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? In the 60's and '70's most of us would taken a much firmer stance

RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
But they are alike in they both have Harleys... :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? Its like my old

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2 May 2007, Sam Tetherow wrote: Um, that is what the DISOBEDIENCE in civil disobedience means. I can't tell what you are referring to here. My comment was specifically to say that criminal action (breaking the law) is not the proper course. Is that the part that you disagree with?

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread J. Vogel
... I wish now that I had paid more attention in History classes Which of the founding fathers said something to the effect that the proper response of the citizenry to an unjust law was to ignore/disobey it? John Vogel Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? Its like my old hippie friend told me the only difference between hippie and yuppie is 50 grand a year That was in 91. Adjust accordingly

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread JohnnyO
@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? On Wed, 2 May 2007, Sam Tetherow wrote: Um, that is what the DISOBEDIENCE in civil disobedience means. I can't tell what you are referring to here. My comment was specifically to say

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
I suggest you not take the view that breaking any and all laws is a criminal matter. There are various levels of laws, and most are not criminal matters. I can break the speed laws and get a fine but no criminal record, unless of course I harm someone or do it in such a way that it is clearly

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Leboeuf wrote: But they are alike in they both have Harleys... :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA

RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread David Peterson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience I recommend Thoreau's treatise on the subject. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
Some people ask too much. Ask not what WISPA can do for you, but ask what you can do for WISPA. WISPA, being all of us, can always use a helping hand. Anybody that thinks they can help, should step up to the plate, pay the measly couple hundred bucks, and offer to do something to help, ALL

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
You probably should have then. Last I checked treason was just that, which is what the founding fathers did when they declared their independance from England over unjust taxation (a law) which they refused to pay (ignored/disobeyed it). Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless J. Vogel wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
eh? I thought it was aye Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: The proper phrase is: yeah but, wait right here, eh? Always end with a question, eh? Lonnie -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread JohnnyO
in BC most say hey - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? eh? I thought it was aye Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: The proper

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? eh? I thought it was aye Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: The proper phrase is: yeah but, wait right here, eh? Always end with a question, eh? Lonnie -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
aye is a form of yes, as in aye capn highliner. eh is a form of question, to gain agreement, such as I can do this, eh? Lonnie On 5/2/07, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eh? I thought it was aye Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: The proper phrase is: yeah but, wait right here, eh? Always

RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick
: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? Dawn DiPietro wrote: Mark, Justify it anyway you like. Civil disobedience is not a viable solution. I don't see a large number of people stepping up to the plate and defending your

RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick
: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? On Wed, 2 May 2007, Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: Changing the laws happens MUCH quicker if a mass of people openly oppose it. Your country was founded on that very principle. Yes it does

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? ... I wish now that I had paid more attention in History classes Which of the founding fathers said something to the effect that the proper response of the citizenry to an unjust law was to ignore/disobey it? John Vogel Butch Evans

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Mike Hammett
] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? The proper phrase is: yeah but, wait right here, eh? Always end with a question, eh? Lonnie On 5/2/07, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nahh, hippies don't have harley's. I was wiring at a hippie market a few years back, and this hippie dude, a real

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-04-26 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Mark, Justify it anyway you like. Civil disobedience is not a viable solution. I don't see a large number of people stepping up to the plate and defending your position. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Wow. I guess the title really is right. When I participated in the

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-04-26 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? Mark, Justify it anyway you like. Civil disobedience is not a viable solution. I don't

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-04-26 Thread Matt Liotta
Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Read that document from the FCC again, there's HUGE areas of required compliance that have NOT EVEN BEEN MENTIONED by anything to come from WISPA nor anyone else I've seen, and we have 3 weeks to somehow bridge this gulf, educate everyone, and try some give and take with

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-04-26 Thread Peter R.
Again I ask you, how do you do that? How do you get hundreds to write in? You wrote a note that could be massaged and sent to customers. (But then you would start losing customers almost immediately). So people have a starting point. The PR... you suggested that no one could write one...

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-04-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I think there are between 3000 and 6000 wisps. I do NOT think CALEA is a bad thing. Pretty hard to abuse it and there's NO reason for the ability to spy on bad guys to not exist. Lastly, I just can't take it anymore! Some of you guys loose more sleep over the little stuff. I'm FAR more