Hello Brian, Heh, that's normal for verizon in my area..... Many times the carrier will drop tower power as they bring a new site online, might be what is happening.
Barry Thursday, August 31, 2006, 2:59:50 PM, you wrote: BR> No kidding. In the last month my Nextel went from 4 bars in all places BR> to 0-1 bar at most times now. Something bad is going on. And I am way BR> out in the sticks. Should be less interference. BR> Brian Rohrbacher BR> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: >> Brian, >> >> I'm sure that there are a lot of upgrades going on in urban areas, but >> it will take a while before they hit many rural markets. In the >> meantime, all these folks that are going to try downloading videos and >> music to their phones will put exponentially higher loads on the >> cellular data networks. Even with the advantages of licensed >> spectrum and cleaner noise floors, you are still talking about the >> disadvantages of having to maintain that data stream to a moving >> target, roaming between towers through widely varying signal >> conditions and low gain antennas on the customer side. Fixed >> applications don't have to deal with that at all, and it is possible >> to optimize signal strength to make it perform. My former partner in >> Vistabeam is the operations manager for a cell carrier, and I get to >> hear about all the issues on their networks. Suffice to say, they get >> to deal with a lot of the same problems we do, the problems are just a >> lot more expensive to fix. >> >> Hell, as far as I can tell the cellular guys are having problems just >> keeping voice operational on many of their networks! Just as a few of >> the guys on this list that I call regularly (Mac, Scriv, Marlon) and >> ask them how many times my conversations with them get cut off because >> of crappy phone service. They should get voice figured out before >> they try to deliver live video to a postage stamp screen on a cell phone. >> >> Matt Larsen >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> Brian Webster wrote: >> >>> Matt, >>> The cellular folks have been quietly improving their data network >>> capability. Their biggest problem to date was the T1 backhauls from the >>> tower sites. These were already loaded with voice traffic. In many >>> markets >>> there are aggressive programs underway to replace all the T1's with >>> licensed >>> microwave backhaul with much more bandwidth. Cellular has the >>> advantage of >>> cleaner spectrum and lower noise floors. It has been proven that they >>> can >>> deliver over the air rates necessary, once they fix the backhaul >>> bottleneck >>> they will be serious competitors. Remember they also get to leverage >>> their >>> already existing tower network. Sprint/Nextel even has the advantage >>> of all >>> that 2.5 GHz spectrum they just announced their WIMAX plans for. >>> One of the major players for giving them wireless backhaul is >>> FiberTower >>> who just merged with First Avenue Networks. This gives them instant >>> access >>> to a lot of spectrum all over the US. While this may not be good news to >>> most of the folks on this list, there is an upside. The telcos are >>> going to >>> lose a lot of business from them dropping those expensive $1200 per >>> month T1 >>> circuits to each and every tower site.........that should effect some >>> numbers for those guys. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank You, >>> Brian Webster >>> www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Matt Larsen - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:44 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi >>> >>> >>> Check back in with us in a year and let us know how that cell data card >>> is working. If you thought the oversubscription on dialup lines was >>> bad, wait until more people get on the cellular data networks. Talk >>> about something that will not scale when the data hits it - wow. >>> >>> Matt Larsen >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> Brad Belton wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I wasn't going to pipe in on this topic, but George hit it square on >>>> the >>>> head: Cellular. >>>> >>>> Laptops are now available with built-in cellular data cards. This >>>> trend >>>> will only continue as the cellular data rates continue to increase. My >>>> Sprint data card pretty consistently pulls 500Kbps and can peak at >>>> nearly >>>> 1.5Mbps. This is far better than many WiFi hotspots I have >>>> connected to >>>> >>> >>> and >>> >>> >>>> certainly better than any Muni-WiFi system I've seen. >>>> >>>> Pure coverage alone will give the cellular networks a huge advantage >>>> over >>>> any muni system. I can guarantee you the next laptop I buy will have a >>>> cellular data card built-in. <grin> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> >>>> Brad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>> Behalf Of George Rogato >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 4:07 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi >>>> >>>> Tom DeReggi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> My arguement is that the biggest prospective client for use of a >>>>> mobile >>>>> network is the governement. If you give service to them free or >>>>> without >>>>> financial contribution from them, its just plain stupid in my mind. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> But what about cellular? >>>> >>>> Aren't they posed best to take advantage of mobile customers because >>>> they are all theirs anyways? >>>> Sprint just announced they will be doing mobile wimax. Verizon already >>>> has a decent nation wide high speed mobile internet access product that >>>> a lot of law enforcement are all ready using in the plice cars. >>>> >>>> And just this morning we heard about 4g cellular delivering 100megs to >>>> the police car at 37 miles per hour. >>>> >>>> How does muni fit into the future that will be dominated by cellular? >>>> >>>> >>>> George >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- Best regards, Barry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
