Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] authentication policy question

2007-01-08 Thread Colin Alworth
Unfortunatly, most LDAP implementations require that the password be passed in clear text, as a security feature. PAP, tunneled through TTLS or PEAP is then the easiest way to be secure with the password between the user and RADIUS. RADIUS is on the recieving end of the tunnel, and reads the passw

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] authentication policy question

2007-01-08 Thread Matt Ashfield
That is what I figured. The password is protected via encryption across the network, but it appears you're right, it is fair game on the radius server. Due to the way our passwords are stored in LDAP, this is the only authentication method we can use. Matt Ashfield Network Analyst Integrated Te

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] authentication policy question

2007-01-08 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
Nevermind, I misunderstood. :( As far as passwords in clear text, I believe that is what PAP is, clear text. You will need something like MSCHAP to encrypt the passwords. However, depending on your password storage algorithm on your LDAP directory, you might not get this to work. We use a crypt

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] authentication policy question

2007-01-08 Thread Ruiz, Mike
If you're using PAP then the password is fair game at any step along the way. You need to look into another EAP type. Mike Michael G Ruiz Network and Systems Engineer Hobart and William Smith Colleges Information Technology Services v 315.781.3711 f 315.781.3409 From: Matt As

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] authentication policy question

2007-01-08 Thread Matt Ashfield
The authentication process works correctly, it is more the issue of the Radius server "seeing" the cleartext password and that it could potentially be seen by those who have or gain access to the radius server. Matt Ashfield Network Analyst Integrated Technology Services University of New Bruns

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] authentication policy question

2007-01-08 Thread Matt Ashfield
Yes, we're using PAP. Matt Ashfield Network Analyst Integrated Technology Services University of New Brunswick (506) 447-3033 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jorge Bodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 8, 2007 3:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDU

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] authentication policy question

2007-01-08 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
There is a Windows hotfix to allow windows PEAP clients to authenticate to non-windows radius servers. Perhaps that is what you are running into? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885453 Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. Senior An

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] authentication policy question

2007-01-08 Thread Jorge Bodden
Matt, Are you using PAP? If so, PAP is a clear text protocol. Jorge BlackBerry service provided by Nextel -Original Message- From: Matt Ashfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:13:56 To:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] authentication policy quest

authentication policy question

2007-01-08 Thread Matt Ashfield
Hi All We're in the process of setting up our wireless system to use radius authentication against our usernames/passwords which are stored in LDAP. We have come across an issue in testing the radius server. We are using Freeradius. The way we have this setup is quite standard (I hope). The use