Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] PoE Issue, Cisco Switches- Let's Poll The Audience!

2015-08-12 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
No bug ID, but it’s mentioned in the release notes for 15.2, but oddly, not in the open caveat section. That suggests it’s something that can’t be fixed. Jeff From: wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edumailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu on behalf of

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] PoE Issue, Cisco Switches- Let's Poll The Audience!

2015-08-12 Thread Chad Burnham
Hi Jeff, Sounds like a “talk to the BU via your SE” answer if you really want it fixed… Chad From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Sessler Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:03 AM To:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Philippe Hanset
Paul, Dorm design is an animal of itself and each school has its own set of challenges based on locations and policies. As much as I agree that 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz shouldn’t be on separate SSIDs for main campus, I have really changed my mind for dormitories. Those buildings are really micro

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Jeremy Gibbs
Does anyone employ band-steering? When we enabled it, we saw a massive jump of users connecting at 5ghz. Obviously if the client doesn't support 5ghz or it just prefers 2.4 because of various factors it can stay on 2.4. I have only seen it improve throughput for everyone. Any opinions on this? We

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Hunter Fuller
In some areas of campus I have enabled a sort of band-steering. Our multi-radio Xirrus units will attempt to load balance across their 8 radios. I am running 2x2GHz radios, 5x5GHz radios, and 1 radio in monitor mode. When I turn this setting on, the AP will attempt to steer the client away from

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
Single SSID – anything else just adds confusion for the end-user. Then again, I was recently visited a spot where they had a different SSID for every building. :) Thinking more about this… If residence halls (academic buildings too) are well designed around 5 GHz and use in-room AP placement,

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Chuck Enfield
Yes, we use band-steering and I recommend it over the different SSID approach. If a device chooses the 2.4 GHz SSID on its own, most people won't notice for quite some time. How often have you found your device on an SSID other than the one you intended? My Netgear router at home won't let me

RE: Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Jason Cook
Top info Chuck A few additional things to play with from that list. Do you have varying power in your set power or is it designed to be all one so very even spacing between AP’s? By varying I guess do you set to X, survey then adjust some. Or rely more on your testing and design to get it right

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Frans Panken
Paul, I am not a supporter of this. Mainly because I think Wi-Fi knowledge for the end-user should be minimised. Users should just see the SSID and connect; options to choose from should be minimized. The most important thing users must learn is checking the correctness of the Radius server to

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Jason Cook
We were considered a similar approach last year but never completed the plan, mainly due to other priorities and having already kind of implemented one. Rather than go a 2.4 and a 5 the plan was to leave our normal network “UofA” as dual and create new network “UofA Premium” or some ‘join me

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Latchezar Filtchev
Dear Paul, Our Wi-Fi at AUBG is Trapeze/Juniper. Two years ago we installed WLA322 dual-radio, 802.11n capable, 2x2 MIMO in every dorm room (370 new + approx. 175 existing 2.4 Ghz capable only devices). During fine tuning of the system with new AP’s we broadcasted separate SSID’s for 2.4 Ghz

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Mathieu Sturm
I agree with Frans, the users in general don’t have the knowledge to decide. They will see 5Ghz, google it and see: oh it’s faster. They don’t realize other factors could make 2.4Ghz the better choice. We have one SSID and let the devices make the right choice. Mathieu Sturm Hoofdmedewerker

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Stephen Oglesby
Paul, We're an Aruba shop and, as Bruce of Liberty mentioned, for dense deployments we turn 2.4 ghz radios off on every other AP (typically edge of building APs). Our main performance issues were due to interference and channel utilization on the 2.4 ghz spectrum. We attempted reducing 2.4 ghz

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Tevlin, Dave
Paul, Similar to the concept that Jason mentioned earlier, I heard of a wireless setup at an Educause conference a while back with separate SSIDs for 2.4 and 5. What helped them, unfortunately can't remember who it was, was adding 'FAST' to the 5Ghz SSID name to help steer users to the 5Ghz band.

RE: Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
Why not just deploy the 2.4 GHz with the same SSID on a few of the APs? With our Aruba APs, that is the recommended solution in a dense situation. ​ Bruce Osborne Wireless Engineer IT Infrastructure Media Solutions (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Jake Snyder
The challenge for FAST networks is when you don't have 5ghz dense enough to cover everywhere. What will happen is users will be walking and run into places where they drop from 5Ghz. And they will manually connect to the 2.4Ghz SSID. Without having the ability to tune which network is

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Christopher Stave
At Drew we very recently moved away from multiple SSIDs for this purpose, but we had 'drew' on both 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz and '5drew' on just the 5GHz range. I don't remember exactly, but when we initially set it up some devices would connect in alphabetical order and preferred the 5drew network for