Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Tristan Gulyas
Hi, We're using the 702W and have over 1500 deployed - we don't need 802.11ac in each room, given the speeds on 40Mhz 5GHz n channels are still sufficient for their needs plus they get three gigabit ports (the 4th is used for an IP phone) if they require faster speeds. We have not received one

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
In the k-12 space, Cisco Meraki, Aerohive, and Ruckus continue to be the big players even in small districts, with others, including Ubiquiti, not making much of a dent. Those solutions also tend to come in at or lower than Ubiquiti. One of the drivers for solutions such as Meraki is that from m

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Thomas Carter
I’m not questioning the cost, just the available options. I feel like I sometimes want to tow a 15’ travel trailer and my options from the established vendors are a Peterbuilt, Mack, and Freightligner at 4x the cost of an F-150 that is adequate to the task. Because of that, there are a lot of sm

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
On the cost of devices. Some enterprise vendor solutions may be nothing more than the same off-the-shelf design that the consumer models use, including using the same radio code. When there are radio code issues, the vendor goes back to Broadcom, Marvell, or Qualcomm for a fix. Other enterpris

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Brian L. Cox
From our experience the 205H has worked well and provides good coverage in surrounding rooms…providing the walls are not solid concrete From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Norman Mourtada Sent: Monday, February 20

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Bucklaew, Jerry
Well it normally comes down to "you get what you pay for". A quality solution does cost. We did 205h in every other room and are happy with the outcome. We did every other room to keep cost down while providing good coverage. On 02/20/2017 02:01 PM, Norman Mourtada wrote: > We are actively

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Norman Mourtada
We are actively looking at both the 205H and 303H from Aruba. The list price for the 205H is $695 and the new 303H is $495 (with wave 2 and SU/MU-MIMO) but will require a minimum OS of 6.5. I am leaning towards the 303H as it will be cost effective with our standard discount. Planning to deploy

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Jake Snyder
I'm not opposed to using a low cost device, just make sure you are doing things that are scalable and lead to good experiences. NAT provides some hard issues to address. First off, no roaming. Ip addressing will change. Even on a common SSID, each device will lose all established session on

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Hunter Fuller
Bruce, I have had this mindset for a long time, but I've been questioning it recently. Due to a political situation I won't bother going into, our dorm residents are able to purchase internet connections from wideopenwest or Comcast. They set up their own APs and some of our dorms are rogue nightm

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread GT Hill
Maybe reach out to Ruckus. They sell a lot into hospitality and can get very aggressive with pricing for what you are looking to do. Tell them I sent you (used to work there). And then what will likely happen is that Aruba or Cisco will hate that you and then try to beat them on pricing. :-)

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Thomas Carter
It does bring up a problem that I’ve been complaining about for a long time – the top tier vendors don’t really offer any low cost single-room solutions, especially when it comes to ac. For example, what is there between this Mikrotik device at $50 and an Aruba AP-205H for $400? I see they have

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wifi blocking paint?

2017-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Paynter
This product looks interesting: http://www.slt.co/products/RFShieldingPaint/ShieldingPaint-YShield-HSF54.aspx ~Jeff From: EDUCAUSE Listserv on behalf of "Eric T. Barnett" Reply-To: EDUCAUSE Listserv Date: Monday, February 20, 2017 at 10:42 AM To: EDUCAUSE Listserv Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN]

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Mark Elley
IMHO what you potentially save upfront will probably cost you dearly in maintenance, support issues and customer (dis)satisfaction. Wireless Service Manager IT Services, University of Bristol On 20 February 2017 at 14:55, Michael Blaisdell wrote: > Hmm. How many rooms, buildings, and end devic

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wifi blocking paint?

2017-02-20 Thread Eric T. Barnett
Try hexagonal chicken wire. They used that to put up plaster in old buildings and it will flat kill a wireless signal. I’ve also seen sand placed in the voids of concrete block (for sound dampening in an old Fine Arts building) kill a signal pretty dead too. --Eric From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Lee H Badman
That's going to be tremendously difficult to manage, is my first thought. Lee Badman Network Architect/Wireless TME Syracuse University 315.443.3003 -Original Message- From: Michael Blaisdell [mblaisd...@francis.edu] Received: Monday, 20 Feb 2017, 9:56 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.E

Re: In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Michael Blaisdell
Hmm. How many rooms, buildings, and end devices, Michael? 700 rooms over 10 buildings and about 3000 end devices. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/discuss.

RE: In room WIFI - second example

2017-02-20 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations)
My first thought is this. Are these boxes centrally managed? It appears you are using WPA2-Personal. If so, it would be a pain to need to revisit each box every year to change the PSK. How is channel coordination happening to minimize interference? How will you handle misbehaving devices DOSing