Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Philippe Hanset
All, Has anyone else been approached by AFCOTRA? They have developed an algorithm to map Wireless users and Covid Contamination. They want to use Wi-Fi logs to establish mapping of Covid Cross Contamination on campus. (I guess linking MAC address to Wi-Fi triangulation) Neat Idea! Philippe

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Seth Bean
We ducked this by explaining our wireless design was created for coverage, not security/triangulation, which is true. Many of our buildings do not have the capability to do triagulation because of AP positions. We didn't even get into the privacy item, which was honestly a relief. Seth Bean

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Julian Y Koh
On Apr 1, 2021, at 14:29, Philippe Hanset <005cd62f91b7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> wrote: Has anyone else been approached by AFCOTRA? They have developed an algorithm to map Wireless users and Covid Contamination. They

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Lee H Badman
Several vendors are trying to monetize COVID... the Wi-Fi part (in my opinion) falls apart fairly quickly in spots when you start talking it through for contact tracing- and usually to do it you may have to buy things you don't have to round out the system. FWIW. Lee Badman | Network

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Dan Lauing
I don't believe Wi-Fi is a good technology for this. It's nice when you can reuse existing overhead, but I don't think 2.4/5/6 radio is the answer. You're just begging for false positives. On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 2:47 PM Seth Bean wrote: > We ducked this by explaining our wireless design was

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Spurgeon, Charles E
IMHO, Exposure Notification Express is the droid to look for. https://screenrant.com/apple-google-coronavirus-exposure-notifications-explained/ It has been adopted by a number state heath depts in the US, but there needs to be more.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Jeschke, Kurt
Philippe, best I've seen in decades! Almost sucked me out of retirement. Kurt Kurt Jeschke, Ph. D. Penn State From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of Julian Y Koh Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 5:05 PM To:

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Philippe Hanset
Ok, Full Disclosure … I was in shortage of April 1st fun :) AFO, April’s Fools Officer :) > On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Spurgeon, Charles E > wrote: > > IMHO, Exposure Notification Express is the droid to look for. >

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Enfield, Chuck
Darn you Philippe. I was determined to get through the day without being had. Better luck next year I guess. Chuck From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv On Behalf Of Philippe Hanset Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 5:03 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject:

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Jerry Bucklaew
We had the same discussions and the same conclusion, wifi is not good for this. One reason is you can't trust the result. You can't say a person was in a certain building because they may have forgot their phone, not registered yet. You can't say a person was not in a building because

Re: Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Ian Lyons
But the question becomes do we tag our students? That is the sticky question. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S20 5G, an AT 5G smartphone Get Outlook for Android From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv on behalf of

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Felix Windt
If anyone is looking into doing this and is a Splunk customer and already throwing WiFi data from either Cisco or Aruba in there, they developed apps that can do more or less this. Contact tracing, cluster visualization on maps, and so on. We didn’t end up going that route at all as a conscious

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Julian Y Koh
On Apr 1, 2021, at 16:03, Philippe Hanset <005cd62f91b7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> wrote: Ok, Full Disclosure … I was in shortage of April 1st fun :) Well, you got all of us….. :) Nicely done! -- Julian Y. Koh

RE: Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Jennifer Minella
Piggy backing on Lee, Felix and all the others... as someone who works for an organization that sells this stuff- WiFi location services are (IMO) useless (or nearly useless) for this type of contact tracing. The best you'll get (per the manufacturers) is "a region" which is going to be a large

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fi and Covid

2021-04-01 Thread Dan Lauing
To be fair, I read "AFO" and thought, "What in the world is that?" I was obviously undeterred. On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:05 PM Julian Y Koh wrote: > > > On Apr 1, 2021, at 16:03, Philippe Hanset < > 005cd62f91b7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> wrote: > > Ok, Full Disclosure … I was in