Cisco mesh combinations?

2011-09-15 Thread Lee H Badman
Don't think me too daffy for asking... does anyone know if Cisco's big honkin' 
1500 access points can mesh with/to/from the likes of 1130s?


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MIMO Antennas

2011-09-15 Thread Branden Kirk
Forgive me if this has already been asked.

1) I am wondering what others are using as their preferred choice for
external MIMO Patch Antennas and external MIMO Omni Antennas.

2) I have an outdoor space adjacent a room with a glass wall between them.
Mounting an antenna outside the building is not desirable. Have many of you
placed patch antennas above ceiling tile inside a building pointed through a
glass wall to cover an outdoor space? Any issues I should be concerned
about?

Thanks in advance.

Branden

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] MIMO Antennas

2011-09-15 Thread Nick Kartsioukas
On Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:08 PM, Branden Kirk
branden.k...@biola.edu wrote:
 1) I am wondering what others are using as their preferred choice for
 external MIMO Patch Antennas and external MIMO Omni Antennas.

We're using Terrawave dual-band N patch antennas with Cisco 1252 APs,
they're working out fine for us.
http://www.terra-wave.com/shop/80211n-245-ghz-6-dbi-mimo-patch-antenna-with-rptnc-plug-connector-p-1347.html
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco mesh combinations?

2011-09-15 Thread Mike King
Yes.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/technology/mesh/7.0/design/guide/MeshAP_70.html#wp1024888

.   Complete interoperability of indoor mesh access points with the
outdoor ones is supported to have coverage from outdoors into the indoors.
We recommend 1100 series for indoor use only, and under no circumstances
should these access points be deployed outdoors even if they are in
enclosures.  ..


Mike

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:

  Don’t think me too daffy for asking… does anyone know if Cisco’s big
 honkin’ 1500 access points can mesh with/to/from the likes of 1130s?

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 Thanks-

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco mesh combinations?

2011-09-15 Thread Mike King
FYI,

My first document was based on 5.2, and it was VERY ambigous, but insinuated
that it was possible.  (Something along the lines of Enterprise Mesh is the
same technology as outdoors mesh


Also, it looks like with 7.0, no separate license is required.

Licensing for Mesh Access Points on a 5500 Series Controller

To use both mesh and nonmesh access points with a Cisco 5500 Series
Controller, only the base license (LIC-CT5508-X) is required from the 7.0
release and later releases. For more information about obtaining and
installing licenses, see Chapter 4 of the *Cisco Wireless LAN Controller
Configuration Guide, Release 7.0 *at

http://www.cisco.rw/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/7.0/configuration/guide/c70ccfg.html



Mesh is fully supported on Cisco 5508 Controllers. The Base License
(LIC-CT508-Base) is sufficient for indoor and outdoor APs (AP152X). The
WPlus License (LIC-WPLUS-SW) is merged with the base license. The WPlus
License is not required for indoor mesh APs (1242s/1130s).

Mesh APs (MAPs/RAPs) are counted as full APs on Cisco 5508 Controllers.

With other controller platforms, MAPs are counted as half APs.

Data Plane Transport Layer Security (DTLS) is not supported on mesh access
points.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Mike King m...@mpking.com wrote:

 Yes.


 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/technology/mesh/7.0/design/guide/MeshAP_70.html#wp1024888

 .   Complete interoperability of indoor mesh access points with the
 outdoor ones is supported to have coverage from outdoors into the indoors.
 We recommend 1100 series for indoor use only, and under no circumstances
 should these access points be deployed outdoors even if they are in
 enclosures.  ..


 Mike

 On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote:

  Don’t think me too daffy for asking… does anyone know if Cisco’s big
 honkin’ 1500 access points can mesh with/to/from the likes of 1130s?

 ** **

 ** **

 Thanks-

 ** **

 Lee Badman

  
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] MIMO Antennas

2011-09-15 Thread Mike King
I've done it.  I've had mixed results, both aesthetics and performance wise.

You should find out the composition of the glass, as there are
many varieties that are extremely difficult for Wireless to penetrate.

Mike

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Branden Kirk branden.k...@biola.eduwrote:

 Forgive me if this has already been asked.

 1) I am wondering what others are using as their preferred choice for
 external MIMO Patch Antennas and external MIMO Omni Antennas.

 2) I have an outdoor space adjacent a room with a glass wall between them.
 Mounting an antenna outside the building is not desirable. Have many of you
 placed patch antennas above ceiling tile inside a building pointed through a
 glass wall to cover an outdoor space? Any issues I should be concerned
 about?

 Thanks in advance.

 Branden

 --
 Branden Kirk
 Network Administrator, IT Operations
 Biola University
 (562)944-0351 x5032
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] MIMO Antennas

2011-09-15 Thread John Rodkey
An additional concern:  the glass which is used now by LEEDs compliant
buildings seems to be particularly unfriendly to Wifi and Cell phone
signals.  You might want to find out exactly what kind of glass this is and
its emf characteristics.

John

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Mike King m...@mpking.com wrote:

 I've done it.  I've had mixed results, both aesthetics and performance
 wise.

 You should find out the composition of the glass, as there are
 many varieties that are extremely difficult for Wireless to penetrate.

 Mike


 On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Branden Kirk branden.k...@biola.eduwrote:

 Forgive me if this has already been asked.

 1) I am wondering what others are using as their preferred choice for
 external MIMO Patch Antennas and external MIMO Omni Antennas.

 2) I have an outdoor space adjacent a room with a glass wall between them.
 Mounting an antenna outside the building is not desirable. Have many of you
 placed patch antennas above ceiling tile inside a building pointed through a
 glass wall to cover an outdoor space? Any issues I should be concerned
 about?

 Thanks in advance.

 Branden

 --
 Branden Kirk
 Network Administrator, IT Operations
 Biola University
 (562)944-0351 x5032
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