Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Give a little, get a little
This Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) bosbo...@liberty.edu 9/29/2014 7:35 AM Lee, You know the answer. Move from the wireless dark side and join us as an Aruba Networks customer. I have experienced Cisco wireless support and Aruba's wireless support. There is no comparison. Aruba products are not perfect, they are quite focused on the education sector. In my personal experience, Aruba's dedicated controller firewall and central management are superior to Cisco's offerings. Aruba is constantly working to add new features to their offering and their support is very responsive. Bruce Osborne Network Engineer - Wireless Team IT Network Services (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 -Original Message- From: Lee H Badman [mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 7:28 PM Subject: Re: Give a little, get a little Aye, we're in the same boat... On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Matthew Newton m...@leicester.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 08:25:55PM +, Lee H Badman wrote: If you feel like kicking in 5 minutes, it would be appreciated. In a week or so, I'll share it all back with the list. Given that we run exclusively Cisco... How do you feel about the products you install/sell/support? -It's really good stuff -Not the best quality stuff, but I feel good about it -It is bug-riddled crap, or gimmicky -I'm so very ashamed... Can we tick all four? :) Matthew -- Matthew Newton, Ph.D. m...@le.ac.uk Systems Specialist, Infrastructure Services, I.T. Services, University of Leicester, Leicester LE1 7RH, United Kingdom For IT help contact helpdesk extn. 2253, ith...@le.ac.uk ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Wireless lighting controls, etc
My cynical side thinks I know the answer already, but let my cast my net anyways... Has anyone found or been involved with any sort of lighting/sound controls that have wireless componentry and work well with enterprise WLAN? Thanks- Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc
Yes. You looking for whole building solutions, or single room stuff? Lutron runs in the 434Mhz band, so non-interference is a given. http://www.lutron.com/ http://digital.turn-page.com/t/23303/75 Not sure about sound... What are you trying to do? On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: My cynical side thinks I know the answer already, but let my cast my net anyways… Has anyone found or been involved with any sort of lighting/sound controls that have wireless componentry and work well with enterprise WLAN? Thanks- Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: *http://wirednot.wordpress.com* http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc
Thanks, Mike. Not sure what the client is actually looking for yet. I’m reading up on Lutron etc, but my fear is he has some Home Depot gadget in mind for a big part of a building. Will know more this afternoon. -Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike King Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:36 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc Yes. You looking for whole building solutions, or single room stuff? Lutron runs in the 434Mhz band, so non-interference is a given. http://www.lutron.com/ http://digital.turn-page.com/t/23303/75 Not sure about sound... What are you trying to do? On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: My cynical side thinks I know the answer already, but let my cast my net anyways… Has anyone found or been involved with any sort of lighting/sound controls that have wireless componentry and work well with enterprise WLAN? Thanks- Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003tel:315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc
Home Depot wireless equipment would probably be Z-Wave, which is 928 MHz. -Josh -- Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2014, at 8:52 AM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: Thanks, Mike. Not sure what the client is actually looking for yet. I’m reading up on Lutron etc, but my fear is he has some Home Depot gadget in mind for a big part of a building. Will know more this afternoon. -Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike King Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:36 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc Yes. You looking for whole building solutions, or single room stuff? Lutron runs in the 434Mhz band, so non-interference is a given. http://www.lutron.com/ http://digital.turn-page.com/t/23303/75 Not sure about sound... What are you trying to do? On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: My cynical side thinks I know the answer already, but let my cast my net anyways… Has anyone found or been involved with any sort of lighting/sound controls that have wireless componentry and work well with enterprise WLAN? Thanks- Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc
Hey Josh- Thanks. Have any experience with them? -Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Joshua Wright Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:02 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc Home Depot wireless equipment would probably be Z-Wave, which is 928 MHz. -Josh -- Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2014, at 8:52 AM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: Thanks, Mike. Not sure what the client is actually looking for yet. I’m reading up on Lutron etc, but my fear is he has some Home Depot gadget in mind for a big part of a building. Will know more this afternoon. -Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike King Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 10:36 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc Yes. You looking for whole building solutions, or single room stuff? Lutron runs in the 434Mhz band, so non-interference is a given. http://www.lutron.com/ http://digital.turn-page.com/t/23303/75 Not sure about sound... What are you trying to do? On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Lee H Badman lhbad...@syr.edumailto:lhbad...@syr.edu wrote: My cynical side thinks I know the answer already, but let my cast my net anyways… Has anyone found or been involved with any sort of lighting/sound controls that have wireless componentry and work well with enterprise WLAN? Thanks- Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003tel:315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Last pitch for the WLAN Professional's Survey
I'm closing this out Friday, and will promptly summarize and share the results. If you feel like seeing where you stand versus your fellow WLAN workers on a variety of experience and opinion parameters, please fill out this 5-minute poll https://www.quicksurveys.com/s/j2MLc. To date, we're just under 300 respondents from 26 countries with a large % from higher ed. Thanks very much! -Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple devices dropping on WPA2-PSK and WPA2-Ent SSIDs Aruba 6.3
Hi Jeff In your experience, have you found CCKM and Band Steering problematic for Windows devices as well, not just Apple? THanks From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:57 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple devices dropping on WPA2-PSK and WPA2-Ent SSIDs Aruba 6.3 I'm doing nothing to steer devices to 5ghz. Most clients do a good job today (especially apple devices) of finding and staying on 5ghz. Looking at my clients attached right now, 51% are on 5ghz. Nearly everything is 802.11n (2.4 and 5), with about 4% of the total being 802.11ac. No CCKM on general WLANs (causes lots of issues) - we do run it on our dedicated VoIP WLAN. Jeff On Thursday, September 25, 2014 at 3:34 PM, in message 20140925223421.6664340.76773.52...@nbcc.camailto:20140925223421.6664340.76773.52...@nbcc.ca, Ashfield, Matt (NBCC) matt.ashfi...@nbcc.camailto:matt.ashfi...@nbcc.ca wrote: ARP cache bug? Will have to dig into that one. Jeff : if you've turned off band steering have you done any other configuring to push devices to 5ghz? What about CCKM? Not sure if Macs would play well with that either? Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network. From: Danny Eaton Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:25 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Reply To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple devices dropping on WPA2-PSK and WPA2-Ent SSIDs Aruba 6.3 We saw a lot of the same. The ARP cache bug (since we run GLBP on the gateways) has killed us too. Original message From: Jeffrey Sessler Date:25/09/2014 16:40 (GMT-06:00) To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple devices dropping on WPA2-PSK and WPA2-Ent SSIDs Aruba 6.3 We noticed that our WLAN with band/load-steering enabled had a high report rate of Macintosh connectivity issues, and the WLAN that did not was trouble free. I suspect what was happening was this: Mac would initially associate (Ent-WPA2), then the controller would force it to move to another band and/or AP. It's at this point (a roam) that the Apple certificate issue would kick in, and it was hit or miss as to the Mac re-associating or failing. This was especially problematic when a Mac client was equidistant from two AP's. Turning off band/load steering pretty much eliminated the bulk of the connectivity issues, and trusting the certificate solved the rest. Band/load steering is just problematic because you can never predict how a client will react to it. Jeff On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 at 5:07 PM, in message 9b14e007db035b49b466f094e5a6ed3649346...@mailmb04.ad.adelaide.edu.aumailto:9b14e007db035b49b466f094e5a6ed3649346...@mailmb04.ad.adelaide.edu.au, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au wrote: Cisco here but we have had plenty of issues with Mac OS. Spent some time with TAC recently seeing what we can do about it with no real fix. Our EAP timers had gotten a bit out of whack, and adjusting them made improvements for some clients, but ultimately OSX clients just don’t seem to like roaming. Though we have seen rather large differences between devices. So a 2014 Macbook Pro and an Air, both running 10.9.4, both with the same model Broadcom card had different results. The Air continues to lost connectivity for 10+ seconds sometimes requiring intervention to get it back, while the pro was typically 4 seconds or less. Sometimes the Air is authenticating, others it’s waiting for DHCP…. Or both For a stationary client, we have seen this issue occur when a client sits between 2 AP’s and get a pretty similar signal from both. As signal fluctuates, the client jumps AP and the above happens. Note I don’t see “Ptk Challenge Failed” in our logs. -- Jason Cook The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800 e-mail: jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au%3cmailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.aumailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au%3cmailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au%3cmailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au%3cmailto:jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Derek Johnson Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2014 1:53 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple devices dropping on WPA2-PSK and WPA2-Ent SSIDs Aruba 6.3 Likewise, I see the same Ptk Challenge Failed errors show up in logs. Sometimes I've seen it when a client's having temporary issues, other times I'll see it when a client is roaming rapidly. As an example, when someone
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc
Lee, Aside from Lutron and Crestron, which I believe both have equipment which operates in the low Mhz range (200-400), I've heard of Enocean which has offerings in both 300 and 900Mhz range and uses energy harvesting with some of its switches and components so that they are non-wiring dependent. Here is a link to what they are terming their wireless ISO/IEC standard: http://www.enocean.com/en/enocean-wireless-standard/ We looked at them when Facilities was shopping around to upgrade some lighting systems. Haven't seen any of their gear in operation yet. -- Jason Watts Pratt Institute, Academic Computing Senior Network Administrator On 9/30/2014 10:11 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: My cynical side thinks I know the answer already, but let my cast my net anyways… Has anyone found or been involved with any sort of lighting/sound controls that have wireless componentry and work well with enterprise WLAN? Thanks- Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: _http://wirednot.wordpress.com_) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc
Funny how things just come together sometimes. I also saw this today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egIY7ushchU Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology York College, Nebraska 402.363.5603 *jcoeho...@york.edu jcoeho...@york.edu* The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Jason Watts jwa...@pratt.edu wrote: Lee, Aside from Lutron and Crestron, which I believe both have equipment which operates in the low Mhz range (200-400), I've heard of Enocean which has offerings in both 300 and 900Mhz range and uses energy harvesting with some of its switches and components so that they are non-wiring dependent. Here is a link to what they are terming their wireless ISO/IEC standard: http://www.enocean.com/en/enocean-wireless-standard/ We looked at them when Facilities was shopping around to upgrade some lighting systems. Haven't seen any of their gear in operation yet. -- Jason Watts Pratt Institute, Academic Computing Senior Network Administrator On 9/30/2014 10:11 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: My cynical side thinks I know the answer already, but let my cast my net anyways… Has anyone found or been involved with any sort of lighting/sound controls that have wireless componentry and work well with enterprise WLAN? Thanks- Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: _http://wirednot.wordpress.com_) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc
Terry Quatro- no way! I’m his biggest fan. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Coehoorn, Joel Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:31 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc Funny how things just come together sometimes. I also saw this today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egIY7ushchU [http://www.york.edu/mvptall.jpg] Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology York College, Nebraska 402.363.5603 jcoeho...@york.edumailto:jcoeho...@york.edu [http://www.york.edu/Portals/0/Images/Logo/YorkCollegeLogoSmall.jpg] The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Jason Watts jwa...@pratt.edumailto:jwa...@pratt.edu wrote: Lee, Aside from Lutron and Crestron, which I believe both have equipment which operates in the low Mhz range (200-400), I've heard of Enocean which has offerings in both 300 and 900Mhz range and uses energy harvesting with some of its switches and components so that they are non-wiring dependent. Here is a link to what they are terming their wireless ISO/IEC standard: http://www.enocean.com/en/enocean-wireless-standard/ We looked at them when Facilities was shopping around to upgrade some lighting systems. Haven't seen any of their gear in operation yet. -- Jason Watts Pratt Institute, Academic Computing Senior Network Administrator On 9/30/2014 10:11 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: My cynical side thinks I know the answer already, but let my cast my net anyways… Has anyone found or been involved with any sort of lighting/sound controls that have wireless componentry and work well with enterprise WLAN? Thanks- Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003tel:315.443.3003 (Blog: _http://wirednot.wordpress.com_) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc
Good stuff. Thanks, Jason. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Watts Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:29 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc Lee, Aside from Lutron and Crestron, which I believe both have equipment which operates in the low Mhz range (200-400), I've heard of Enocean which has offerings in both 300 and 900Mhz range and uses energy harvesting with some of its switches and components so that they are non-wiring dependent. Here is a link to what they are terming their wireless ISO/IEC standard: http://www.enocean.com/en/enocean-wireless-standard/ We looked at them when Facilities was shopping around to upgrade some lighting systems. Haven't seen any of their gear in operation yet. -- Jason Watts Pratt Institute, Academic Computing Senior Network Administrator On 9/30/2014 10:11 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: My cynical side thinks I know the answer already, but let my cast my net anyways... Has anyone found or been involved with any sort of lighting/sound controls that have wireless componentry and work well with enterprise WLAN? Thanks- Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: _http://wirednot.wordpress.com_) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc
One department here used to have and use an AMX A/V system wireless remote that required it to have its own 2.4G access point installed. I yelled and screamed, but was overridden. Fortunately, it is no longer used and was scrapped. I have no idea if AMX still uses or supplies that solution. Roger Harvey Mudd College On 9/30/2014 10:57 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: Good stuff. Thanks, Jason. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Watts Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:29 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc Lee, Aside from Lutron and Crestron, which I believe both have equipment which operates in the low Mhz range (200-400), I've heard of Enocean which has offerings in both 300 and 900Mhz range and uses energy harvesting with some of its switches and components so that they are non-wiring dependent. Here is a link to what they are terming their wireless ISO/IEC standard: http://www.enocean.com/en/enocean-wireless-standard/ We looked at them when Facilities was shopping around to upgrade some lighting systems. Haven't seen any of their gear in operation yet. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc
We have an AMX system in place and faced the same initial demand of a separate wireless network. I too was overruled, until the contractor couldn't make the system work as advertised. As a condition for helping resolve the crisis I was given the opportunity to re-configure the system to use our enterprise wireless. The wireless component was not the issue, of course, but I'll take any opportunity to avoid the one off solutions. I did MAC-Authenticate the AMX. Colin Daniel Network Systems Manager Montana State University -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger Wiechman Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:13 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc One department here used to have and use an AMX A/V system wireless remote that required it to have its own 2.4G access point installed. I yelled and screamed, but was overridden. Fortunately, it is no longer used and was scrapped. I have no idea if AMX still uses or supplies that solution. Roger Harvey Mudd College On 9/30/2014 10:57 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: Good stuff. Thanks, Jason. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Watts Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:29 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc Lee, Aside from Lutron and Crestron, which I believe both have equipment which operates in the low Mhz range (200-400), I've heard of Enocean which has offerings in both 300 and 900Mhz range and uses energy harvesting with some of its switches and components so that they are non-wiring dependent. Here is a link to what they are terming their wireless ISO/IEC standard: http://www.enocean.com/en/enocean-wireless-standard/ We looked at them when Facilities was shopping around to upgrade some lighting systems. Haven't seen any of their gear in operation yet. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc
I have used an AMX panel and didn't lose the battle about the vendor installing their access point. The password for the advanced configuration was 1988 (good year) in case you ever need it. I was told that was the default. We used PEAP and it performed well. Great video Joel, very humorous! TJ McClintic Senior Network Engineer, Network Operations Communication Services | Network Operations 7000 Fannin | Suite M60 | Houston, TX 77030 (713) 486-2271 tel | (832) 269-9986 mob www.uth.edu -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Daniel, Colin Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:21 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc We have an AMX system in place and faced the same initial demand of a separate wireless network. I too was overruled, until the contractor couldn't make the system work as advertised. As a condition for helping resolve the crisis I was given the opportunity to re-configure the system to use our enterprise wireless. The wireless component was not the issue, of course, but I'll take any opportunity to avoid the one off solutions. I did MAC-Authenticate the AMX. Colin Daniel Network Systems Manager Montana State University -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger Wiechman Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:13 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc One department here used to have and use an AMX A/V system wireless remote that required it to have its own 2.4G access point installed. I yelled and screamed, but was overridden. Fortunately, it is no longer used and was scrapped. I have no idea if AMX still uses or supplies that solution. Roger Harvey Mudd College On 9/30/2014 10:57 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: Good stuff. Thanks, Jason. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Watts Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 1:29 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc Lee, Aside from Lutron and Crestron, which I believe both have equipment which operates in the low Mhz range (200-400), I've heard of Enocean which has offerings in both 300 and 900Mhz range and uses energy harvesting with some of its switches and components so that they are non-wiring dependent. Here is a link to what they are terming their wireless ISO/IEC standard: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.enocean.com/en/e nocean-wireless-standard/k=yYSsEqip9%2FcIjLHUhVwIqA%3D%3D%0Ar=eHsexY 0U6WY24UhDK4eLQbvXOPzMySRoCq87DX3WV5M%3D%0Am=oPkjVe4%2BRVhG5YbcjaOblx rFCEyqzyHyJ4AtCQ34xNY%3D%0As=cd4c6e13d7c8195e6c24cdec575a6a2a1debddc8 0729844605a411482b93a909 We looked at them when Facilities was shopping around to upgrade some lighting systems. Haven't seen any of their gear in operation yet. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.educause.edu/groups/k=yYSsEqip9%2FcIjLHUhVwIqA%3D%3D%0Ar=eHsexY0U6WY24UhDK4eLQbvXOPzMySRoCq87DX3WV5M%3D%0Am=oPkjVe4%2BRVhG5YbcjaOblxrFCEyqzyHyJ4AtCQ34xNY%3D%0As=4ee17dfe6427a1219139011ede324f1797b21914f183fc4fad38719f804577bd. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.educause.edu/groups/k=yYSsEqip9%2FcIjLHUhVwIqA%3D%3D%0Ar=eHsexY0U6WY24UhDK4eLQbvXOPzMySRoCq87DX3WV5M%3D%0Am=oPkjVe4%2BRVhG5YbcjaOblxrFCEyqzyHyJ4AtCQ34xNY%3D%0As=4ee17dfe6427a1219139011ede324f1797b21914f183fc4fad38719f804577bd. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless lighting controls, etc
That is amazing. Definitely on the 'watch' list for my networking class. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Coehoorn, Joel jcoeho...@york.edu wrote: Funny how things just come together sometimes. I also saw this today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egIY7ushchU Joel Coehoorn Director of Information Technology York College, Nebraska 402.363.5603 *jcoeho...@york.edu jcoeho...@york.edu* The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and society On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Jason Watts jwa...@pratt.edu wrote: Lee, Aside from Lutron and Crestron, which I believe both have equipment which operates in the low Mhz range (200-400), I've heard of Enocean which has offerings in both 300 and 900Mhz range and uses energy harvesting with some of its switches and components so that they are non-wiring dependent. Here is a link to what they are terming their wireless ISO/IEC standard: http://www.enocean.com/en/enocean-wireless-standard/ We looked at them when Facilities was shopping around to upgrade some lighting systems. Haven't seen any of their gear in operation yet. -- Jason Watts Pratt Institute, Academic Computing Senior Network Administrator On 9/30/2014 10:11 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: My cynical side thinks I know the answer already, but let my cast my net anyways… Has anyone found or been involved with any sort of lighting/sound controls that have wireless componentry and work well with enterprise WLAN? Thanks- Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: _http://wirednot.wordpress.com_) ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
