RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam- "reasonable efforts to acknowledge the AUP"?

2017-09-01 Thread Lee H Badman 
That helps. The legalese gets murky.

Thanks,

Lee

-Original Message-
From: Philippe Hanset [phan...@anyroam.net]
Received: Friday, 01 Sep 2017, 18:12
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam- "reasonable efforts to acknowledge the 
AUP"?

Lee,

The text in the agreement is intended to ask IDPs (Identity Providers) to 
inform their users about their responsibilities when visiting other campuses 
and using eduroam. SP (Service Providers) do not have to inform users.

Phillippe
ANYROAM

On Sep 1, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Lee H Badman 
> wrote:

Thanks, Marcelo. Is in line with all I can  come up with as well short of 
ruining it with some ugly redirect.
Lee Badman | Network Architect

Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200)
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcelo Maraboli
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 3:58 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam- "reasonable efforts to acknowledge the 
AUP"?

Hello Lee

We just published in our IT web page (mainly to our users) that IF you
use eduroam elsewhere, you are subject to the AUP of that University and
it is __your__ duty to search/ask for it and read it.

We simply educate our own users.


best regards,
On 9/1/17 3:43 PM, Lee H Badman wrote:
For those of you participating in eduroam, I'm struggling a bit with the new 
agreement from I2. Has anyone tried to figure out what I2 expects as far as 
eduroam schools somehow communicating AUP to users as they move from school to 
school?

Regards,

Lee Badman

Lee Badman | Network Architect

Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200)
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu



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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam- "reasonable efforts to acknowledge the AUP"?

2017-09-01 Thread Philippe Hanset 
Lee,

The text in the agreement is intended to ask IDPs (Identity Providers) to 
inform their users about their responsibilities when visiting other campuses 
and using eduroam. SP (Service Providers) do not have to inform users.

Phillippe
ANYROAM

> On Sep 1, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Lee H Badman  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Marcelo. Is in line with all I can  come up with as well short of 
> ruining it with some ugly redirect.
> Lee Badman | Network Architect 
> 
> Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200)
> Information Technology Services
> 206 Machinery Hall
> 120 Smith Drive
> Syracuse, New York 13244
> 
> t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu
> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
> syr.edu
> 
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcelo Maraboli
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 3:58 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam- "reasonable efforts to acknowledge the 
> AUP"?
>  
> Hello Lee
> 
> We just published in our IT web page (mainly to our users) that IF you
> use eduroam elsewhere, you are subject to the AUP of that University and
> it is __your__ duty to search/ask for it and read it.
> 
> We simply educate our own users.
> 
> 
> best regards,
> 
> On 9/1/17 3:43 PM, Lee H Badman wrote:
> For those of you participating in eduroam, I’m struggling a bit with the new 
> agreement from I2. Has anyone tried to figure out what I2 expects as far as 
> eduroam schools somehow communicating AUP to users as they move from school 
> to school?
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Lee Badman
>  
> Lee Badman | Network Architect 
> 
> Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200)
> Information Technology Services
> 206 Machinery Hall
> 120 Smith Drive
> Syracuse, New York 13244
> t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu
> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
> syr.edu
>  
>  
>  
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE 
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>  
> -- 
> Marcelo Maraboli Rosselott
> Subdirector de Redes y Seguridad
> Dirección de Informática
> Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile
> http://informatica.uc.cl/
> --
> Campus San Joaquín, Av. Vicuña Mackenna 4860, Macul
> Santiago, Chile
> Teléfono: (56) 22354 1341
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam- "reasonable efforts to acknowledge the AUP"?

2017-09-01 Thread Lee H Badman 
Thanks, Marcelo. Is in line with all I can  come up with as well short of 
ruining it with some ugly redirect.
Lee Badman | Network Architect

Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200)
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcelo Maraboli
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 3:58 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam- "reasonable efforts to acknowledge the 
AUP"?

Hello Lee

We just published in our IT web page (mainly to our users) that IF you
use eduroam elsewhere, you are subject to the AUP of that University and
it is __your__ duty to search/ask for it and read it.

We simply educate our own users.


best regards,
On 9/1/17 3:43 PM, Lee H Badman wrote:
For those of you participating in eduroam, I'm struggling a bit with the new 
agreement from I2. Has anyone tried to figure out what I2 expects as far as 
eduroam schools somehow communicating AUP to users as they move from school to 
school?

Regards,

Lee Badman

Lee Badman | Network Architect

Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200)
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu



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Dirección de Informática
Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile
http://informatica.uc.cl/
--
Campus San Joaquín, Av. Vicuña Mackenna 4860, Macul
Santiago, Chile
Teléfono: (56) 22354 1341
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam- "reasonable efforts to acknowledge the AUP"?

2017-09-01 Thread Marcelo Maraboli 

Hello Lee

We just published in our IT web page (mainly to our users) that IF you
use eduroam elsewhere, you are subject to the AUP of that University and
it is __your__ duty to search/ask for it and read it.

We simply educate our own users.


best regards,

On 9/1/17 3:43 PM, Lee H Badman wrote:
For those of you participating in eduroam, I’m struggling a bit with 
the new agreement from I2. Has anyone tried to figure out what I2 
expects as far as eduroam schools somehow communicating AUP to users 
as they move from school to school?

Regards,
Lee Badman
*Lee Badman*| Network Architect

Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200)
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
*t* 315.443.3003 *f* 315.443.4325 *e* _lhbadman@syr.edu_ 
 *w* its.syr.edu

*SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
*syr.edu
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Dirección de Informática
Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile
http://informatica.uc.cl/
--
Campus San Joaquín, Av. Vicuña Mackenna 4860, Macul
Santiago, Chile
Teléfono: (56) 22354 1341

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eduroam- "reasonable efforts to acknowledge the AUP"?

2017-09-01 Thread Lee H Badman 
For those of you participating in eduroam, I'm struggling a bit with the new 
agreement from I2. Has anyone tried to figure out what I2 expects as far as 
eduroam schools somehow communicating AUP to users as they move from school to 
school?

Regards,

Lee Badman


Lee Badman | Network Architect

Certified Wireless Network Expert (#200)
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244

t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.edu

SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu




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