RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

2018-08-31 Thread Michael Cole 
 We’re in the middle of rewiring our entire campus and building out new 
data closets, upgrading fiber and switching. In our ResHalls we moved to an 
hotel model type wireless access point, one per room that has a couple of wired 
connections on the bottom of it to plug devices into.  In rewiring we’ve pulled 
to new cables into each room for the wireless.  We’ve been through an AP 
upgrade in some of the buildings already and it’s working out well.  We started 
out with the Aruba 103h, and a few years ago moved up to the 205H, and I 
suspect in a couple of more years we’ll move to the 3xx series.  It’s been a 
nice solution for us between providing wired and wireless at a reasonable cost, 
and has been rock solid performance/maintenance wise.


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Brian Helman
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 11:54 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

We don’t support gaming on the wireless network.  It’s just too much of a 
headache right now .. between .1x, 11n in some res halls, 11ac in others, 
2.4GHz/5GHz, latency/disconnects/interference/signal strength/etc, 
multi-vendor, yada yada.  If we get to a point where we are single-vendor with 
solid 5GHz coverage everywhere, we’ll reconsider.  It’s tough to have the same 
student have different experiences with WiFi year to year as they move to 
different res halls.

-Brian

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On Behalf Of Enfield, Chuck
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 9:38 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

Thanks Jacob.  That’s exactly the kind of info I was hoping for.

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On Behalf Of Barros, Jacob
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 8:37 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

We are still providing wired connections as desired.  I believe 8% is our trend 
through the years but my impression from the first two weeks of school is that 
number is climbing.  Physical connections are free and we offer an ethernet 
cable for free as well.   The beginning of our on ground undergrad semester is 
busy with connections, but very little maintenance afterward.  Gamers consider 
it a value and it costs us very little.  We've built two new dorms in the last 
five years and did pull cables to rooms in anticipation of having a full 
hospitality to room deployment in the future.




Jacob Barros

Associate Director of IT, Network and Operations

Email: jkbar...@grace.edu

Phone: 574.372.5100 ext. 6178

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On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Enfield, Chuck 
mailto:cae...@psu.edu>> wrote:
I don’t want to hijack Dan’s thread, but I wouldn’t mind adding to it if he 
doesn’t mind.

I know from previous threads that lots of schools have gone Wi-Fi-only, and 
issues are minimal.  But, as an institution that has both wired and wireless 
enabled throughout the residence halls, about 15% of our residents still plug 
in.  It was easy for us to do both because we were really late to provide 
Wi-Fi, so our legacy wired network is still serviceable.  At some point in the 
next couple years we’ll have to decide whether or not to replace it.  That 
requires an assessment of the value proposition.  15% use seems to suggest that 
there’s still significant value in providing wired connectivity, but I’m not 
sure it satisfactorily answers the question.  It’s safe to assume that some 
users really want that wired connection for good reasons, and other users who 
prefer a wired connection if it’s available, but really wouldn’t miss it if it 
wasn’t.  It’s to determine how many each make up that 15%.

I’m curious to hear from institutions that provide wired connections upon 
request.  If you do that, how many get requested?  Is it free, or is there a 
charge?  If a charge, how much?  …and anything else illuminating you can 
no-doubt contribute.

Thanks,

Chuck


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On Behalf Of Entwistle, Bruce
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:16 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

Last year we converted our first residence hall to wireless only and there were 
minimal challenges.   You could consider installing the small hospitality APs 
in the rooms and then there would be wired ports

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

2018-08-31 Thread Brian Helman 
We don’t support gaming on the wireless network.  It’s just too much of a 
headache right now .. between .1x, 11n in some res halls, 11ac in others, 
2.4GHz/5GHz, latency/disconnects/interference/signal strength/etc, 
multi-vendor, yada yada.  If we get to a point where we are single-vendor with 
solid 5GHz coverage everywhere, we’ll reconsider.  It’s tough to have the same 
student have different experiences with WiFi year to year as they move to 
different res halls.

-Brian

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Enfield, Chuck
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 9:38 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

Thanks Jacob.  That’s exactly the kind of info I was hoping for.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Barros, Jacob
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 8:37 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

We are still providing wired connections as desired.  I believe 8% is our trend 
through the years but my impression from the first two weeks of school is that 
number is climbing.  Physical connections are free and we offer an ethernet 
cable for free as well.   The beginning of our on ground undergrad semester is 
busy with connections, but very little maintenance afterward.  Gamers consider 
it a value and it costs us very little.  We've built two new dorms in the last 
five years and did pull cables to rooms in anticipation of having a full 
hospitality to room deployment in the future.




Jacob Barros

Associate Director of IT, Network and Operations

Email: jkbar...@grace.edu

Phone: 574.372.5100 ext. 6178

[https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/UL13vM331_cldE--6pe0tmF8xi10XejwQWh_iIo3_WnKqa3GNTj7qfC8zMm-AathAnMQoUG1LNv5GzD35OyxQ_x_V2RG30D4r5ucKFdYJkE1-Z-d98UW1NPWapbWxgOAi68e0c7q]


On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Enfield, Chuck 
mailto:cae...@psu.edu>> wrote:
I don’t want to hijack Dan’s thread, but I wouldn’t mind adding to it if he 
doesn’t mind.

I know from previous threads that lots of schools have gone Wi-Fi-only, and 
issues are minimal.  But, as an institution that has both wired and wireless 
enabled throughout the residence halls, about 15% of our residents still plug 
in.  It was easy for us to do both because we were really late to provide 
Wi-Fi, so our legacy wired network is still serviceable.  At some point in the 
next couple years we’ll have to decide whether or not to replace it.  That 
requires an assessment of the value proposition.  15% use seems to suggest that 
there’s still significant value in providing wired connectivity, but I’m not 
sure it satisfactorily answers the question.  It’s safe to assume that some 
users really want that wired connection for good reasons, and other users who 
prefer a wired connection if it’s available, but really wouldn’t miss it if it 
wasn’t.  It’s to determine how many each make up that 15%.

I’m curious to hear from institutions that provide wired connections upon 
request.  If you do that, how many get requested?  Is it free, or is there a 
charge?  If a charge, how much?  …and anything else illuminating you can 
no-doubt contribute.

Thanks,

Chuck


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Entwistle, Bruce
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 2:16 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

Last year we converted our first residence hall to wireless only and there were 
minimal challenges.   You could consider installing the small hospitality APs 
in the rooms and then there would be wired ports available if necessary.

Bruce Entwistle
Network Manager
University of Redlands


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Daniel Wurst
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 11:12 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless Only in Student Housing?

Hi All,

We are looking into building a new student housing building and are considering 
going Wifi only for network connectivity. We were wondering if anyone else has 
gone the route of only allowing network connectivity via wireless. If so, can 
you share your experience, lessons learned, and advice.

Thank you,

Dan
--
Daniel Wurst
Network Engineer
Denison University
wur...@denison.edu
740-587-6229

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