I've deployed 20 of the Cisco 3500i access points so far for testing and my
early experience was mixed with them, but it's starting to look up.
The first issue is that you have to run version 7 code, since I'm running WiSMs
this mean moving two (for redundancy) 150 AP controllers over to the
I would recommend waiting for the 7.x MR1 code. We currently have 7 WiSMs and
use webauth with an external webserver and encountered massive problems with
the 7.0.98.0. When there were a lot of webauth logins on a WiSM it would
become unresponsive over its management interface and thus would
After talking to my SE and one of the Engineers in the Wireless BU they have
confirmed that 7.0.116.0 is indeed MR1, and they are calling 7.0.98.218 MR
0.5 since it has all the bug fixes but no new features.
Josh Robertson
Network Systems Senior Engineer
Old Dominion University
Office of
Currently we're addressing this issue by installing the 3500 series Cisco Clean
Air Access Points in all of our dorms and increasing the number of APs in the
dorms while we do it. These access points do interference detection and will
map it in Cisco WCS. I have a feeling it's probably going
I've found 7.0.116.0 to be very stable, I've been happily running it since late
April on 7 WiSMs and 1 4400 series with no issues, and since late May on two
WiSM 2s. It also incorporates some new features not found in 7.0.98.218. As
for APs we've got a mix of 1131AG, 1142N, and 3502i for
Just finished migrating. Overall I'd say it's a big improvement in
performance, presentation, reporting. So far my only disappointment has been
running into this fun bug:
Bug ID: CSCtt94353 Heatmaps are not drawn after migration from WCS to NCS
So to get heatmaps to show again each map had
Ouch, and a new price point to go with it... $1495 list
Josh Robertson
Network Systems Senior Engineer
Old Dominion University
Office of Computing Communications Services
(757)683-5046
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We purchased a few older apartment buildings which we converted to dorms and
are doing wireless only in them. For the wireless we’re using Cisco 1142i and
put one per apartment (some apartments are 2 beds, some are 4).
As mentioned you definitely want to do PoE on the switches to provide
Same here, I've had to expand subnets for 15 buildings since the semester
started (we give each building a subnet), and looking at the logs I've got
another 5 or so that will need it in the near future. More buildings that used
to be good on a /24 are requiring a /23, and buildings that had
Our peak usage tends to be between 1pm and 7pm Monday-Thursday. We have about
8k concurrent users during those times.
Josh Robertson
Network Systems Senior Engineer
Old Dominion University
Office of Computing Communications Services
(757)683-5046
j2rob...@odu.edu
http://occs.odu.edu/
We hit the same issue here, we have 7 WiSM 1s and 3 WiSM 2s. I had just
finally gotten away from a mixed code environment this past summer after
putting the last 1010s out to pasture and now there's this.
On our end we're working to fund replacing the WiSM 1s with WiSM 2s this
summer, fingers
Mine was the same way, started it one morning and came back the next morning to
finally find it complete. My WCS export zip file was 14GB.
Josh Robertson
Network Systems Senior Engineer
Old Dominion University
Office of Computing Communications Services
(757)683-5046
The only caveat I ran into when first installing them last summer was the
requirement for 12.2.33-SXJ on the chassis, but the need for an upgraded IOS
image on the switch is understandable as it was a new module at the time.
Since then I've been running three of them across two chassis with my
Just a heads up for anyone else thinking of moving to this code... I just
nailed down a bug in my lab where if you have more than 59 dynamic interfaces
then L3 web authentication will fail to work (both internal and external). The
workaround is to delete the 60th and any further interfaces
Do you have 60+ interfaces defined by any chance? If so you're hitting bug
CSCua39580 discovered by me. I just got an ES build yesterday that's supposed
to fix it. If you want more information just drop me a mail.
Josh Robertson
Network Systems Senior Engineer
Old Dominion University
Office
Yeah, my guess would be they're probably baking a version of avahai into the
controller code similar to what Aerohive is doing.
Josh Robertson
Network Systems Senior Engineer
Old Dominion University
Office of Computing Communications Services
(757)683-5046
I asked many of the same questions as Anders without a reply so I'm also
wondering if they just weren't prepared/hadn't thought of the problems
associated with having the devices on wired, if having vlans across a L3
boundary will require a controller there to terminate them, and if/how roaming
Just a heads up Cisco has posted WLC 7.3 code, release notes are at
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/release/notes/crn73.html
It has some interesting new features like true HA, support for the 2600 series
APs, and virtual controllers. Also the ability to disable IPV6 has
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Just a heads up Cisco has posted WLC 7.3 code, release notes are at
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If you're using Cisco one thing to check is that the MCS0 data rate is enabled.
I had a lot of problems with Macs and iThings dropping after I disabled the
802.11b rates and MCS0. Per TAC's suggestion I re-enabled the MCS0 rate and
have not been experiencing the problems since. Apparently it
I got a Fluke AirCheck this summer and have found its locate feature to work
quite well with the (optional) directional antenna. It graphs the signal
strength and also can play sounds (lower/slower = farther, higher/quicker =
closer). My student workers have been able to quickly pick up how
That post belonged to me. You can still disable the 802.11b data rates (1, 2,
5.5, 11), which I have done at our campuses. You just need to leave the
802.11n MCS0 rate (6.5/7) in order to keep the iThingies happy.
Josh Robertson
Network Systems Senior Engineer
Old Dominion University
Office
I didn't see it happen on any of my 3600s, but under 7.2.110.0 I was seeing
intermittent crashes on my 3500s (using WiSM2s). TAC suggested I try upgrading
to 7.3.101.0 which I did Sunday, also they provided a debug image to load on my
3500s so that if it happens again they can grab more
Mike,
With the WiSM2 on 7.2 you can use RF Profiles to manage your thresholds.
The option is under Wireless-RF Profiles and then you can assign it to APs
under the AP Groups (WLANs-Advanced-AP Groups). This way you can tweak the
settings at whatever scale you want.
Josh Robertson
Sr.
On pre-7.4 code as long as you're on the same layer 2 vlan as the AppleTV and
have multicast enabled you'll still see the advertisements and be able to use
it, it's just when you try to cross L3 boundaries or disable multicast that
you'll need 7.4 or greater.
Josh Robertson
Sr. Wireless
The whole idea behind Wi-Fi Direct is to be able to stay connected to a
wi-fi network while making an ad-hoc connection at the same time to a
device. So this will not be an issue. Battery life on the other hand...
Josh Robertson
Sr. Wireless Engineer / InfoSecurity Admin
Denver Public Schools
After running AirFiber for a bit I thought I'd reply to this thread. I have a
290m link running great at excellent signal strength with a speed of 743
megabits full duplex going between two schools. I have been very impressed by
how well and reliably it has worked and I'm going to add another
At Old Dominion University (my previous employer) we went to a combination
of a few central labs, a virtual computer lab, and a learning commons
area. The students really embraced the learning commons which included
configurable furniture with power outlets, group meeting rooms with
Agreed, it is completely nuts. What I've heard is that PI 2.0 will be WLC
7.4 and below, PI 2.1 will support WLC 7.5 and above.
Josh Robertson
Sr. Wireless Engineer / InfoSecurity Admin
Denver Public Schools
Department of Technology Services
(720)423-3675
To open a new support call, please call
I second Julian's opinion about speed on older devices as I too got stuck with
a terribly slow iPhone 3G after the iOS 4 upgrade. I did, however, take the
plunge on my 4S and so far speed has been good. I have heard some speed
complaints from people with plain iPhone 4 though.
Josh Robertson
I’ve got three pairs running and will be adding another couple in the coming
months. Current distances are 300m (-43 dBm), 450m (–46 dBm), and 850m (–53
dBm) all on 6’ non-penetrating masts on school roofs. Two of the sets have
been up since early last Summer. All are getting around 775
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