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on behalf of Enfield, Chuck
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 1:48:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert
Verification
James,
So far this has been a largely technical discussion
uary 16, 2021 9:31 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert
Verification
I’m arguing on behalf of the many poorly-resourced environments where NPS has a
marginal cost of zero, and that enabling TOFU would be a simple t
Andrewartha
Date: Saturday, January 16, 2021 at 21:31
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert
Verification
I’m arguing on behalf of the many poorly-resourced environments where NPS has a
marginal cost of zero
a
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On Behalf Of Turpin, Max
Sent: Sunday, 17 January 2021 7:49 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert
Verification
You do
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Because trust on first use is almost as bad as not trusting at all.
Properly deploy 802.1X or don't use it. Sorry to be harsh but this same
conversation multiple times per year, every year is tiring.
, 2021 at 10:56
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Certificate enrolment sucks for BYOD though, there’s no ongoing posture
checking, and you have to maintain a CA and CRL.
SSH uses TOFU and is more comparable to RADIUS in that you
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Certificate enrolment sucks for BYOD though, there’s no ongoing posture
checking, and you have to maintain a CA and CRL.
SSH uses TOFU and is more comparable to RADIUS in that you only connect to a
limited number
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On Behalf Of Tim Cappalli
Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2021 11:33 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
EAP-TLS is modern, strong authentication. And enrollment can even use
passwordless.
Imagine of browsers oper
, 2021 10:31:27 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
I disagree, but OWE or SAE with a captive portal then? At least I can use
modern authentication methods like hardware keys and TOTP with a browser.
--
James Andrewartha
Network
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On Behalf Of Tim Cappalli
Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2021 11:24 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Because trust on first use is almost as bad as not trusting at
Listserv
on behalf of James Andrewartha
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 10:11:00 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Why couldn’t Google add trust-on-first-use to Android like Apple has with iOS
and macOS, and Microsoft has
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On Behalf Of Tim Cappalli
Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2021 6:28 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
> "many colleges provided instructions as such."
This is one of the many reasons th
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on behalf of Angelo Santabarbara
Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 17:25
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Correct Tim. I failed to clarify that you can no longer setup eduroam profiles
manually with
Thanks for the clarification Tim. That's why you're the man!
Brad
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On Behalf Of Tim Cappalli
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 5:02 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
, January 14, 2021 4:58 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
[EXTERNAL SENDER]
We are instructing our users to use the eduroam CAT tool
(https://cat.eduroam.org/<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A
, 2021 4:58 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
[EXTERNAL SENDER]
We are instructing our users to use the eduroam CAT tool
(https://cat.eduroam.org/) that we configured to deploy a certificate. Best we
could do now that Android
.
Thanks,
Brad
Original message
From: "Glinsky, Eric"
Date: 1/14/21 4:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
[EXTERNAL SENDER]
Is anyone starting to get complaints of not being able to connect
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Tim, et al,
So the issue with advance certificate onboarding is that it requires a process
in advance that most students would have issues with. Issuing certs in advance
is more of a process for company-
pending%3D>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Tim, et al,
So the issue with advance certificate onboarding is that it requires a process
in advance that most students would have issues with. Issuing certs in advance
is more of a process for company-owned devices.
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On Behalf Of Chris Ressel
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 6:51 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert
Verification
I am curious, for those who are onboarding, how are client
I am curious, for those who are onboarding, how are clients provided restricted
connectivity to download the onboarding installer/agent (secureW2, CAT, etc)?
Do you have a provisioning SSID? Do you ask users to join your guest network?
From a user experience perspective, I think it is
On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 1:26 PM Fishel Erps
<0030ecf871d2-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu> wrote:
> So the issue with advance certificate onboarding is that it requires a
> process in advance that most students would have issues with.
I just want to make sure you understand that the
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Tim, et al,
So the issue with advance certificate onboarding is that it requires a process
in advance that most students would have issues with. Issuing certs in advance
is more of a process
USE.EDU
*Subject: *Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Hi Philippe,
Thanks for sharing.
I’m interested to know if there are any higher Ed institutes out there that
don’t onboard clients and push the necessary certs out? How will you be
handling this change?
Thanks
Se
*organizations, not situations.
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 14:00
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Just do a quick Google search and you’ll see how many
Community Group Listserv
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 13:59
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
I too am also interested.
Michael Catania
Sr. Network Analyst
Information Technology Services
Loyola University Chicago
P: 773.508.3712
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
Hi Philippe,
Thanks for sharing.
I’m interested to know if there are any higher Ed institutes out there that
don’t onboard clients and push the necessary certs
ITS, University of Lethbridge
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On Behalf Of Philippe Hanset
Sent: October 13, 2020 11:23 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Android 11 and Cert Verification
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