RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

2015-04-22 Thread Edward Ip
Jason,

I agree with you that wireless allows more points of failure due to multiple 
reasons. I will look into ATA for the outdoor emergency phones.

Edward Ip
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
algonquincollege.com

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Cook
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 9:40 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

We'll be on this path shortly as we are currently replacing our MD110 with 
Cisco CUCM. Personally I would stay away from wireless for emergency phones as 
you are bringing in more points of failure and not to mentioned unlicensed 
spectrum for emergencies. Plus you’ll need power to these points unless you 
want to rely on battery/solar…. Which again seems risky for emergencies.

Our plan has been to either keep an MD110 unit in place (at least on the main 
campus) and/or use the cisco voice gateways or ATAs, and/or bring in PSTN’s 
directly from a provider. It will depend on cons/pros and costs once we start 
designing that part. Though I think Philippe’s comment below is pretty 
interesting(or awesome), get it cabled with cat 5/6 and install a wireless AP, 
for the phone either wired VOIP or an extra cable for an analogue service.


--
Jason Cook
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Philippe Hanset
Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2015 3:09 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

University of Tennessee, Knoxville has more than 60 of these code blue phones 
all over campus.
I always thought “Too bad we didn’t synchronize an effort with the Telephone 
Services Department
to locate outdoor Wi-Fi in it”. Those emergency phones have power and cat5 
running to them!

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.ushttp://www.eduroam.us



On Apr 21, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Aaron Lamey 
ala...@cbu.edumailto:ala...@cbu.edu wrote:

I use analog products from this company:

http://codeblue.com/solution/help-points/

They have some wireless SIP ones, but I’ve never used one. Has anyone on the 
list ever used their SIP products with Cisco CallManager?

image001.png
Aaron Lamey
Director of Network and Telecommunications
Christian Brothers University
650 East Parkway South
Memphis, TN  38104

(901) 321- 3480
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

Hello,

I am looking for recommendations to replace our aging outdoor emergency phones. 
Ideally, I am looking for a wireless (Wi-Fi based) outdoor emergency VoIP phone 
to replace our very old landline based outdoor phones. My initial research has 
not produced any good candidates yet as well I was wondering if anyone has had 
successfully deployed such a system at their location? Any feedback would be 
very much appreciated.

We use Aruba APs and Cisco Call Manager in our network.

Regards,
Edward Ip | ITS | Wireless Systems Administrator
613 727 4723 | ext 7112
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
www.algonquincollege.comhttp://www.algonquincollege.com/

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

2015-04-22 Thread Danny Eaton
A few years ago we looked into putting APs either on top, or just inside the 
Code Blue phones with external antennas – the problem we had was that the APs, 
with a NEMA rated box would be U-G-L-Y on top of the pole, and if inside the 
pole with external antennas the temperature, humidity and rainfall here in 
Houston would have them lasting not very long.  

 

 

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Cook
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:40 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

 

We'll be on this path shortly as we are currently replacing our MD110 with 
Cisco CUCM. Personally I would stay away from wireless for emergency phones as 
you are bringing in more points of failure and not to mentioned unlicensed 
spectrum for emergencies. Plus you’ll need power to these points unless you 
want to rely on battery/solar…. Which again seems risky for emergencies. 

 

Our plan has been to either keep an MD110 unit in place (at least on the main 
campus) and/or use the cisco voice gateways or ATAs, and/or bring in PSTN’s 
directly from a provider. It will depend on cons/pros and costs once we start 
designing that part. Though I think Philippe’s comment below is pretty 
interesting(or awesome), get it cabled with cat 5/6 and install a wireless AP, 
for the phone either wired VOIP or an extra cable for an analogue service. 

 

 

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Jason Cook

The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

 


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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

2015-04-22 Thread Edward Ip
Thank you Kevin for pointing me to this device, I am going to look into it to 
see if our phone cable infrastructure is still good enough to use these devices.

Edward Ip
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
algonquincollege.com

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Kevin McCormick
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 2:55 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

If you have to go VoIP, you can not find good outdoor VoIP phone, consider an 
ATA. You can wire up an outdoor rated analog to an ATA.

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/ata-187-analog-telephone-adaptor/data_sheet_c78-608596.html

Kevin McCormick
uTech Network Services
Western Illinois University

On 4/21/2015 11:27 AM, Oliver, Jeff wrote:
 Agreed. Stay with a analog solution for e phones.

 --

 Cheers,
 Jeff


 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Danny Eaton
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:26 AM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone 
 recommendation

 For emergencies why go wireless?  There's just too much not under control in 
 my mind (RF, mainly). You've already got cable and power there, why not stick 
 with the wired solution?


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 To: 
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAU
 SE.EDU
 Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone 
 recommendation

 Hello,

 I am looking for recommendations to replace our aging outdoor emergency 
 phones. Ideally, I am looking for a wireless (Wi-Fi based) outdoor emergency 
 VoIP phone to replace our very old landline based outdoor phones. My initial 
 research has not produced any good candidates yet as well I was wondering if 
 anyone has had successfully deployed such a system at their location? Any 
 feedback would be very much appreciated.

 We use Aruba APs and Cisco Call Manager in our network.

 Regards,
 Edward Ip | ITS | Wireless Systems Administrator
 613 727 4723 | ext 7112
 Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | 
 Ontario | K2G 1V8 | Canada 
 www.algonquincollege.comhttp://www.algonquincollege.com

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

2015-04-22 Thread Philippe Hanset
About four years ago, the IT department at UTK was asked to provide temporary 
Wi-Fi outdoor coverage
in a parking lot to support online payments for the Volapalooza event!
The cost of an outdoor rated AP was a definite show stopper for the student 
committee’s budget.
So we improvised a PVC electric box completely sealed and we stuck an Aruba 
AP-105 in it connected with Cat5, thinking that
it would last for the week end and perish from its natural electronic death 
during the summer from extreme temperatures (the box is exposed to the sun
from about 10 am till 1 pm). It was an experiment. We don’t have the extreme 
temperatures of Houston, but Knoxville-TN does have its fair share of extreme 
temperatures.
I pass by the AP on a regular basis, and it’s still spewing 802.11 frames at a 
decent rate! A testimony to the resilience of electronics!


Philippe Hanset
www.anyroam.net



 On Apr 22, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Danny Eaton dannyea...@rice.edu wrote:
 
 A few years ago we looked into putting APs either on top, or just inside the 
 Code Blue phones with external antennas – the problem we had was that the 
 APs, with a NEMA rated box would be U-G-L-Y on top of the pole, and if inside 
 the pole with external antennas the temperature, humidity and rainfall here 
 in Houston would have them lasting not very long.
 
 
 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
 mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Cook
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:40 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
 mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone 
 recommendation
 
 We'll be on this path shortly as we are currently replacing our MD110 with 
 Cisco CUCM. Personally I would stay away from wireless for emergency phones 
 as you are bringing in more points of failure and not to mentioned unlicensed 
 spectrum for emergencies. Plus you’ll need power to these points unless you 
 want to rely on battery/solar…. Which again seems risky for emergencies.  
 
 Our plan has been to either keep an MD110 unit in place (at least on the main 
 campus) and/or use the cisco voice gateways or ATAs, and/or bring in PSTN’s 
 directly from a provider. It will depend on cons/pros and costs once we start 
 designing that part. Though I think Philippe’s comment below is pretty 
 interesting(or awesome), get it cabled with cat 5/6 and install a wireless 
 AP, for the phone either wired VOIP or an extra cable for an analogue service.
 
 
 --
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 The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800
 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

2015-04-22 Thread Tevlin, Dave
To amplify what Jason said about the additional points of failure. I look
at the fire alarm systems we have in place. The standard for fire panels
now is cellular with a phone line as the backup. That way if you have a
cable cut down line it does not immediately send you into fire watch, which
comes with all the over time involved, before the repair can be made.

I wonder if there is a similar option for emergency phones.

Dave Tevlin



On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Jason Cook jason.c...@adelaide.edu.au
wrote:

  We'll be on this path shortly as we are currently replacing our MD110
 with Cisco CUCM. Personally I would stay away from wireless for emergency
 phones as you are bringing in more points of failure and not to mentioned
 unlicensed spectrum for emergencies. Plus you’ll need power to these points
 unless you want to rely on battery/solar…. Which again seems risky for
 emergencies.



 Our plan has been to either keep an MD110 unit in place (at least on the
 main campus) and/or use the cisco voice gateways or ATAs, and/or bring in
 PSTN’s directly from a provider. It will depend on cons/pros and costs once
 we start designing that part. Though I think Philippe’s comment below is
 pretty interesting(or awesome), get it cabled with cat 5/6 and install a
 wireless AP, for the phone either wired VOIP or an extra cable for an
 analogue service.





 --

 Jason Cook

 The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005

 Ph: +61 8 8313 4800



 *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Philippe Hanset
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 April 2015 3:09 AM
 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone
 recommendation



 University of Tennessee, Knoxville has more than 60 of these code blue
 phones all over campus.

 I always thought “Too bad we didn’t synchronize an effort with the
 Telephone Services Department

 to locate outdoor Wi-Fi in it”. Those emergency phones have power and cat5
 running to them!



 Philippe Hanset

 www.eduroam.us







  On Apr 21, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Aaron Lamey ala...@cbu.edu wrote:



 I use analog products from this company:



 http://codeblue.com/solution/help-points/



 They have some wireless SIP ones, but I’ve never used one. Has anyone on
 the list ever used their SIP products with Cisco CallManager?



 image001.png

 *Aaron Lamey*

 Director of Network and Telecommunications

 Christian Brothers University

 650 East Parkway South

 Memphis, TN  38104



 (901) 321- 3480
 ala...@cbu.edu

 www.cbu.edu









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 recommendation



 Hello,



 I am looking for recommendations to replace our aging outdoor emergency
 phones. Ideally, I am looking for a wireless (Wi-Fi based) outdoor
 emergency VoIP phone to replace our very old landline based outdoor phones.
 My initial research has not produced any good candidates yet as well I was
 wondering if anyone has had successfully deployed such a system at their
 location? Any feedback would be very much appreciated.



 We use Aruba APs and Cisco Call Manager in our network.



 Regards,

 *Edward Ip* | ITS | Wireless Systems Administrator

 613 727 4723 | ext 7112

 *Algonquin College* | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario
  | K2G 1V8 | Canada

 www.algonquincollege.com



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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

2015-04-21 Thread Philippe Hanset
University of Tennessee, Knoxville has more than 60 of these code blue phones 
all over campus.
I always thought “Too bad we didn’t synchronize an effort with the Telephone 
Services Department
to locate outdoor Wi-Fi in it”. Those emergency phones have power and cat5 
running to them!

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.us



 On Apr 21, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Aaron Lamey ala...@cbu.edu wrote:
 
 I use analog products from this company:
 
 http://codeblue.com/solution/help-points/ 
 http://codeblue.com/solution/help-points/
 
 They have some wireless SIP ones, but I’ve never used one. Has anyone on the 
 list ever used their SIP products with Cisco CallManager?
 
 image001.png
 Aaron Lamey
 Director of Network and Telecommunications
 Christian Brothers University
 650 East Parkway South
 Memphis, TN  38104
 
 (901) 321- 3480
 ala...@cbu.edu mailto:ala...@cbu.edu
 www.cbu.edu http://www.cbu.edu/
 
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 mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation
 
 Hello,
 
 I am looking for recommendations to replace our aging outdoor emergency 
 phones. Ideally, I am looking for a wireless (Wi-Fi based) outdoor emergency 
 VoIP phone to replace our very old landline based outdoor phones. My initial 
 research has not produced any good candidates yet as well I was wondering if 
 anyone has had successfully deployed such a system at their location? Any 
 feedback would be very much appreciated.
 
 We use Aruba APs and Cisco Call Manager in our network.
 
 Regards,
 Edward Ip | ITS | Wireless Systems Administrator
 613 727 4723 | ext 7112
 Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | 
 K2G 1V8 | Canada
 www.algonquincollege.com http://www.algonquincollege.com/
 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

2015-04-21 Thread Kevin McCormick
If you have to go VoIP, you can not find good outdoor VoIP phone, 
consider an ATA. You can wire up an outdoor rated analog to an ATA.


http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/ata-187-analog-telephone-adaptor/data_sheet_c78-608596.html

Kevin McCormick
uTech Network Services
Western Illinois University

On 4/21/2015 11:27 AM, Oliver, Jeff wrote:

Agreed. Stay with a analog solution for e phones.

--

Cheers,
Jeff


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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Danny Eaton
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:26 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

For emergencies why go wireless?  There's just too much not under control in my 
mind (RF, mainly). You've already got cable and power there, why not stick with 
the wired solution?


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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Ip
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:06 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

Hello,

I am looking for recommendations to replace our aging outdoor emergency phones. 
Ideally, I am looking for a wireless (Wi-Fi based) outdoor emergency VoIP phone 
to replace our very old landline based outdoor phones. My initial research has 
not produced any good candidates yet as well I was wondering if anyone has had 
successfully deployed such a system at their location? Any feedback would be 
very much appreciated.

We use Aruba APs and Cisco Call Manager in our network.

Regards,
Edward Ip | ITS | Wireless Systems Administrator
613 727 4723 | ext 7112
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
www.algonquincollege.comhttp://www.algonquincollege.com

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

2015-04-21 Thread Jason Cook
We'll be on this path shortly as we are currently replacing our MD110 with 
Cisco CUCM. Personally I would stay away from wireless for emergency phones as 
you are bringing in more points of failure and not to mentioned unlicensed 
spectrum for emergencies. Plus you’ll need power to these points unless you 
want to rely on battery/solar…. Which again seems risky for emergencies.

Our plan has been to either keep an MD110 unit in place (at least on the main 
campus) and/or use the cisco voice gateways or ATAs, and/or bring in PSTN’s 
directly from a provider. It will depend on cons/pros and costs once we start 
designing that part. Though I think Philippe’s comment below is pretty 
interesting(or awesome), get it cabled with cat 5/6 and install a wireless AP, 
for the phone either wired VOIP or an extra cable for an analogue service.


--
Jason Cook
The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005
Ph: +61 8 8313 4800

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Philippe Hanset
Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2015 3:09 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

University of Tennessee, Knoxville has more than 60 of these code blue phones 
all over campus.
I always thought “Too bad we didn’t synchronize an effort with the Telephone 
Services Department
to locate outdoor Wi-Fi in it”. Those emergency phones have power and cat5 
running to them!

Philippe Hanset
www.eduroam.ushttp://www.eduroam.us



On Apr 21, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Aaron Lamey 
ala...@cbu.edumailto:ala...@cbu.edu wrote:

I use analog products from this company:

http://codeblue.com/solution/help-points/

They have some wireless SIP ones, but I’ve never used one. Has anyone on the 
list ever used their SIP products with Cisco CallManager?

image001.png
Aaron Lamey
Director of Network and Telecommunications
Christian Brothers University
650 East Parkway South
Memphis, TN  38104

(901) 321- 3480
ala...@cbu.edumailto:ala...@cbu.edu
www.cbu.eduhttp://www.cbu.edu/

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To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

Hello,

I am looking for recommendations to replace our aging outdoor emergency phones. 
Ideally, I am looking for a wireless (Wi-Fi based) outdoor emergency VoIP phone 
to replace our very old landline based outdoor phones. My initial research has 
not produced any good candidates yet as well I was wondering if anyone has had 
successfully deployed such a system at their location? Any feedback would be 
very much appreciated.

We use Aruba APs and Cisco Call Manager in our network.

Regards,
Edward Ip | ITS | Wireless Systems Administrator
613 727 4723 | ext 7112
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
www.algonquincollege.comhttp://www.algonquincollege.com/

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

2015-04-21 Thread Edward Ip
I agree that staying with analog telephone is better solution, unfortunately 
our current phone infrastructure is heading the directions of full VoIP 
everywhere and the POT lines are being removed (deemed too expensive to 
maintain by management). All our fax is now cloud based or will soon be cloud 
based. Hence, I am tasked with looking for alternatives.

Edward Ip
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
algonquincollege.com

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Danny Eaton
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 12:26 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

For emergencies why go wireless?  There's just too much not under control in my 
mind (RF, mainly). You've already got cable and power there, why not stick with 
the wired solution?


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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Ip
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:06 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

Hello,

I am looking for recommendations to replace our aging outdoor emergency phones. 
Ideally, I am looking for a wireless (Wi-Fi based) outdoor emergency VoIP phone 
to replace our very old landline based outdoor phones. My initial research has 
not produced any good candidates yet as well I was wondering if anyone has had 
successfully deployed such a system at their location? Any feedback would be 
very much appreciated.

We use Aruba APs and Cisco Call Manager in our network.

Regards,
Edward Ip | ITS | Wireless Systems Administrator
613 727 4723 | ext 7112
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
www.algonquincollege.comhttp://www.algonquincollege.com

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

2015-04-21 Thread Danny Eaton
For emergencies why go wireless?  There's just too much not under control in
my mind (RF, mainly). You've already got cable and power there, why not
stick with the wired solution?

 

 

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Ip
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:06 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

 

Hello,

 

I am looking for recommendations to replace our aging outdoor emergency
phones. Ideally, I am looking for a wireless (Wi-Fi based) outdoor emergency
VoIP phone to replace our very old landline based outdoor phones. My initial
research has not produced any good candidates yet as well I was wondering if
anyone has had successfully deployed such a system at their location? Any
feedback would be very much appreciated.

 

We use Aruba APs and Cisco Call Manager in our network.

 

Regards,

Edward Ip | ITS | Wireless Systems Administrator

613 727 4723 | ext 7112

Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario |
K2G 1V8 | Canada

www.algonquincollege.com

 

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

2015-04-21 Thread Oliver, Jeff
Agreed. Stay with a analog solution for e phones.

--

Cheers,
Jeff


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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Danny Eaton
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:26 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

For emergencies why go wireless?  There's just too much not under control in my 
mind (RF, mainly). You've already got cable and power there, why not stick with 
the wired solution?


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Ip
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:06 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outdoor wireless emergency VoIP phone recommendation

Hello,

I am looking for recommendations to replace our aging outdoor emergency phones. 
Ideally, I am looking for a wireless (Wi-Fi based) outdoor emergency VoIP phone 
to replace our very old landline based outdoor phones. My initial research has 
not produced any good candidates yet as well I was wondering if anyone has had 
successfully deployed such a system at their location? Any feedback would be 
very much appreciated.

We use Aruba APs and Cisco Call Manager in our network.

Regards,
Edward Ip | ITS | Wireless Systems Administrator
613 727 4723 | ext 7112
Algonquin College | 1385 Woodroffe Avenue | Room C316 | Ottawa | Ontario | K2G 
1V8 | Canada
www.algonquincollege.comhttp://www.algonquincollege.com

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