Re: backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[Eriks Rugelis]

FWIW,
Three years ago I designed and implemented Wi-Fi coverage for the yacht 
club where we keep our sailboat. 

The design required the creation of 6 mounting poles linked by a total of 
5 pairs of point-to-point radios shooting distances of 100m to 200m. 
Virtually all equipment is mounted outdoors and is fully exposed to the 
weather.

I selected MikroTik equipment.   To-date, the system has survived 3 
Toronto winters without failures.   The total solution cost was very 
affordable.   RouterOS software is arcane and a bit twisted but ultimately 
usable.  The PoE implementation is non-standard.

For point-to-point links we use the SXT5HP
http://routerboard.com/RBSXT5HPnDr2

This product has evolved since we purchase it.  There are a wider variety 
of options available today.

I have no interest in MikroTik other than being a satisfied customer.

Eriks

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[Jake Snyder]

A couple suggestions on using low end devices for PTP.  These are directed at 
the UBNT line specifically, but are probably good advice for most outdoor 
installs.

Keep a spare.  Cheap doesn't happen by chance.  My experience with UBNT is that 
the cheaper the product, the higher the likely hood of hardware failures. If 
I'm using their products, I typically go for higher end models.  Regardless, if 
you can't tolerate a long RMA with a site down, keep a spare on hand.

Thoroughly test on the bench.  Before you put that bridge up, make sure you 
test it.  Backup configs and software images.  Once you are positive it works 
flawlessly, deploy it and "Never touch it again."  This was sage advice given 
my by a WISP that deployed UBNT. There have been a lot of times that features 
come and go in different versions, or work radically different.  Keep your 
config and software versions matched on your spare and make sure you have the 
software files saved someplace.

Keep purchase paperwork.  Warranty issues may require you to prove your 
purchase date.  Make sure you can show your purchase date, otherwise they may 
try to use the date it was sold into distribution. 

Thanks
Jake Snyder


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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 6:45 AM, Gregg Heimer <ghei...@mc3.edu> wrote:
> 
> I recommend the Ubiquiti PowerBeam for a 4-5 Mile link, 5GHz, up to 650Mbps 
> throughput.  About $85.00 per end.
>  
>  
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Moore, Brandon
> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 2:12 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>  
> Anyone have long distance sites such as 4 or 5 miles?  We have a set of old 
> Cisco 1410 bridges to replace shortly.  Trees in the way, so no free space 
> optics option.  
>  
> Brandon
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 1:18 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>  
> I also recommend the Ubiquiti LocoM5. Affordable, easy to configure, and easy 
> to manage. You could also look into MikroTik. They are very versatile, 
> affordable, but can be a little challenging to configure.
>  
> Hector Rios
> Louisiana State University
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Gregg Heimer
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 9:04 AM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>  
> Ubiquiti LocoM5 (5GHz – 300Mbps throughput) is the product you want.  You can 
> get them for about $55 through your reseller.  They are designed as CPE 
> devices, but work fine for PTP applications.  They are weatherproof and work 
> well indoors or outdoors.  We use them to supply network connectivity to job 
> trailers for construction projects around campus.  You can use AirView2 to 
> manage all of them, there are no license fees for the device or the 
> management software.  I highly recommend Ubiquiti, we have about 12 of their 
> devices on our production network from the locoM5 to the AirFiber units. 
>  
> If you need more throughput use the Ubiquiti NanoBeam AC, ($89).  This will 
> provide around 650Mbps throughput and is the size of a flood light. 
>  
>  
> LocoM5: https://www.ubnt.com/airmax/nanostationm/
>  
> NanoBeam AC: https://www.ubnt.com/airmax/nanobeam-ac/
>  
>  
> AirView2 Software:
> 
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of John Rodkey
> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:36 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>  
> I have need for a fairly inexpensive,  low bandwidth (10Mbps), short distance 
> (<200 ft)  point to point wireless connection .
> I am aware of the Cambrium ePMP 1000 and Ubiquiti nano.
> 
> Would anyone like to compare these items or propose other good solutions to 
> this type of situation?
> 
> John
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[Jeremy Mooney]

Does this happen even when avoiding the U-NII-2 channels (the DFS ones)? I
suppose most receivers are probably wide enough on the frontend that
desense could be an issue even on others. It makes me wonder if UBNT's
different models of airfiber for U-NII-2 and U-NII-3 space at least for
airfiber may be specifically for radar. They do state it's to allow
co-location with devices in the lower band, but I had assumed they meant
communications links.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) <
bosbo...@liberty.edu> wrote:

> I do not know about this situation, but our management insists on us using
> a 5G Wi-Fi point-to-point to go across a road on our campus near an
> airport. Radar can cause havoc with 5G Wi-Fi.​
>
>
>
> *Bruce Osborne*
>
> *Wireless Engineer*
>
> *IT Network Services - Wireless*
>
>
>
> *(434) 592-4229 <%28434%29%20592-4229>*
>
>
>
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>
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>
> *From:* Ian McDonald [mailto:i...@st-andrews.ac.uk]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>
>
>
> Yearly license fees?
>
>
>
> I see that 2.4 might not be ideal. What stops you using the 5G radios?
>
>
>
> --
>
> ian
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [
> mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *John Rodkey
> *Sent:* 05 April 2016 22:53
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>
>
>
> That's what I've got in place now, but it also costs because of the yearly
> license fees.
>
> It hasn't been 100% reliable, either (interference on 2.4MHz, I'm pretty
> sure), so going 5 is desirable.
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Ian McDonald <i...@st-andrews.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> A pair of (cisco) access points from your scrap pile in bridge mode? 100%
> inexpensive J
>
>
>
> --
>
> ian
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *John Rodkey
> *Sent:* 05 April 2016 22:36
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>
>
>
> I have need for a fairly inexpensive,  low bandwidth (10Mbps), short
> distance (<200 ft)  point to point wireless connection .
>
> I am aware of the Cambrium ePMP 1000 and Ubiquiti nano.
>
> Would anyone like to compare these items or propose other good solutions
> to this type of situation?
>
> John
>
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RE: backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)]

I do not know about this situation, but our management insists on us using a 5G 
Wi-Fi point-to-point to go across a road on our campus near an airport. Radar 
can cause havoc with 5G Wi-Fi.​

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Services - Wireless

(434) 592-4229

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
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From: Ian McDonald [mailto:i...@st-andrews.ac.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

Yearly license fees?

I see that 2.4 might not be ideal. What stops you using the 5G radios?

--
ian

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of John Rodkey
Sent: 05 April 2016 22:53
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

That's what I've got in place now, but it also costs because of the yearly 
license fees.
It hasn't been 100% reliable, either (interference on 2.4MHz, I'm pretty sure), 
so going 5 is desirable.
John

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Ian McDonald 
<i...@st-andrews.ac.uk<mailto:i...@st-andrews.ac.uk>> wrote:
A pair of (cisco) access points from your scrap pile in bridge mode? 100% 
inexpensive ☺

--
ian


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 On Behalf Of John Rodkey
Sent: 05 April 2016 22:36
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

I have need for a fairly inexpensive,  low bandwidth (10Mbps), short distance 
(<200 ft)  point to point wireless connection .
I am aware of the Cambrium ePMP 1000 and Ubiquiti nano.
Would anyone like to compare these items or propose other good solutions to 
this type of situation?
John
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[Scott Fortin]

+1 for Engenius ENH500.  $150 and you have a reliable 300mbps link

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On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Thomas Carter <tcar...@austincollege.edu>
wrote:

> I use the ENH500 (
> http://www.amazon.com/EnGenius-Technologies-Wireless-Bridge-ENH500/dp/B006M1PM22);
> I’m not sure of the difference between the ENH500 and ENS500, but this has
> been extremely reliable to run across a 4 lane street that we have no
> wiring across. We’ve had this solution in place for 2 ½ years or so. It’s
> been dead reliable for the past 1 ½ years (earlier firmware would
> occasionally lock up). If you want reliability, run 2 pair as an LAG
> between switches at each end.
>
>
>
> One thing to note, it uses 24v non-standard “PoE”. It comes with an
> injector, but I found a 48v->24v converter that sits between this and a
> standard PoE port.
>
>
>
> Thomas Carter
>
> Network & Operations Manager
>
> Austin College
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Coehoorn, Joel
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:56 PM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>
>
>
> I've used Engenius bridges in that scenario.  Just $70 each, no licensing:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/EnGenius-Technologies-Wireless-Bridge-ENS500/dp/B00BOVOM0S/
>
>
>
>
> Joel Coehoorn
> Director of Information Technology
> 402.363.5603
> *jcoeho...@york.edu <jcoeho...@york.edu>*
>
> The mission of York College is to transform lives through
> Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
> God, family, and society
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 4:52 PM, John Rodkey <rod...@westmont.edu> wrote:
>
> That's what I've got in place now, but it also costs because of the yearly
> license fees.
>
> It hasn't been 100% reliable, either (interference on 2.4MHz, I'm pretty
> sure), so going 5 is desirable.
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Ian McDonald <i...@st-andrews.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> A pair of (cisco) access points from your scrap pile in bridge mode? 100%
> inexpensive J
>
>
>
> --
>
> ian
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *John Rodkey
> *Sent:* 05 April 2016 22:36
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>
>
>
> I have need for a fairly inexpensive,  low bandwidth (10Mbps), short
> distance (<200 ft)  point to point wireless connection .
>
> I am aware of the Cambrium ePMP 1000 and Ubiquiti nano.
>
> Would anyone like to compare these items or propose other good solutions
> to this type of situation?
>
> John
>
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[John Rodkey]

I don't have any spare 5G in weatherproof.  Also this is proof of concept
for another non Meraki site .
On Apr 5, 2016 2:54 PM, "Ian McDonald" <i...@st-andrews.ac.uk> wrote:

> Yearly license fees?
>
>
>
> I see that 2.4 might not be ideal. What stops you using the 5G radios?
>
>
>
> --
>
> ian
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *John Rodkey
> *Sent:* 05 April 2016 22:53
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>
>
>
> That's what I've got in place now, but it also costs because of the yearly
> license fees.
>
> It hasn't been 100% reliable, either (interference on 2.4MHz, I'm pretty
> sure), so going 5 is desirable.
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Ian McDonald <i...@st-andrews.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> A pair of (cisco) access points from your scrap pile in bridge mode? 100%
> inexpensive J
>
>
>
> --
>
> ian
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *John Rodkey
> *Sent:* 05 April 2016 22:36
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>
>
>
> I have need for a fairly inexpensive,  low bandwidth (10Mbps), short
> distance (<200 ft)  point to point wireless connection .
>
> I am aware of the Cambrium ePMP 1000 and Ubiquiti nano.
>
> Would anyone like to compare these items or propose other good solutions
> to this type of situation?
>
> John
>
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[Thomas Carter]

I use the ENH500 
(http://www.amazon.com/EnGenius-Technologies-Wireless-Bridge-ENH500/dp/B006M1PM22);
 I’m not sure of the difference between the ENH500 and ENS500, but this has 
been extremely reliable to run across a 4 lane street that we have no wiring 
across. We’ve had this solution in place for 2 ½ years or so. It’s been dead 
reliable for the past 1 ½ years (earlier firmware would occasionally lock up). 
If you want reliability, run 2 pair as an LAG between switches at each end.

One thing to note, it uses 24v non-standard “PoE”. It comes with an injector, 
but I found a 48v->24v converter that sits between this and a standard PoE port.

Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager
Austin College

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Coehoorn, Joel
Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:56 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

I've used Engenius bridges in that scenario.  Just $70 each, no licensing:

http://www.amazon.com/EnGenius-Technologies-Wireless-Bridge-ENS500/dp/B00BOVOM0S/



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On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 4:52 PM, John Rodkey 
<rod...@westmont.edu<mailto:rod...@westmont.edu>> wrote:
That's what I've got in place now, but it also costs because of the yearly 
license fees.
It hasn't been 100% reliable, either (interference on 2.4MHz, I'm pretty sure), 
so going 5 is desirable.
John

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Ian McDonald 
<i...@st-andrews.ac.uk<mailto:i...@st-andrews.ac.uk>> wrote:
A pair of (cisco) access points from your scrap pile in bridge mode? 100% 
inexpensive ☺

--
ian


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Sent: 05 April 2016 22:36
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

I have need for a fairly inexpensive,  low bandwidth (10Mbps), short distance 
(<200 ft)  point to point wireless connection .
I am aware of the Cambrium ePMP 1000 and Ubiquiti nano.
Would anyone like to compare these items or propose other good solutions to 
this type of situation?
John
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[Christopher Stave]

10 mb and 200 ft SHOULD be do-able with most old access points, just check
to see if they have a bridge mode and use that.  If it's within one
smallish building, I've had a very good experience with HomePlug powerline
adapters (at home, though.)

While waiting to get cable run out to a newly-leased-but-campus-touching
building a point-to-point link was considered.  We ended up getting
cable-comapny internet out to the building and using a point to point VPN
to get their "local" traffic back, it was temporary, so the monthly cable
internet bill didn't add up to much.



  *Christopher Stave
*
Network Administrator | University Technology

Drew University | 36 Madison Ave | Madison, NJ 07940
(973) 408-3814 | drew.edu





On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:36 PM, John Rodkey  wrote:

> I have need for a fairly inexpensive,  low bandwidth (10Mbps), short
> distance (<200 ft)  point to point wireless connection .
> I am aware of the Cambrium ePMP 1000 and Ubiquiti nano.
>
> Would anyone like to compare these items or propose other good solutions
> to this type of situation?
>
> John
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[Coehoorn, Joel]

I've used Engenius bridges in that scenario.  Just $70 each, no licensing:

http://www.amazon.com/EnGenius-Technologies-Wireless-Bridge-ENS500/dp/B00BOVOM0S/



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On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 4:52 PM, John Rodkey <rod...@westmont.edu> wrote:

> That's what I've got in place now, but it also costs because of the yearly
> license fees.
> It hasn't been 100% reliable, either (interference on 2.4MHz, I'm pretty
> sure), so going 5 is desirable.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Ian McDonald <i...@st-andrews.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> A pair of (cisco) access points from your scrap pile in bridge mode? 100%
>> inexpensive J
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
>> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *John Rodkey
>> *Sent:* 05 April 2016 22:36
>> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>>
>>
>>
>> I have need for a fairly inexpensive,  low bandwidth (10Mbps), short
>> distance (<200 ft)  point to point wireless connection .
>>
>> I am aware of the Cambrium ePMP 1000 and Ubiquiti nano.
>>
>> Would anyone like to compare these items or propose other good solutions
>> to this type of situation?
>>
>> John
>>
>> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
>> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at
>> http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
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>>
>>
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[Ian McDonald]

Yearly license fees?

I see that 2.4 might not be ideal. What stops you using the 5G radios?

--
ian

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of John Rodkey
Sent: 05 April 2016 22:53
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

That's what I've got in place now, but it also costs because of the yearly 
license fees.
It hasn't been 100% reliable, either (interference on 2.4MHz, I'm pretty sure), 
so going 5 is desirable.
John

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Ian McDonald 
<i...@st-andrews.ac.uk<mailto:i...@st-andrews.ac.uk>> wrote:
A pair of (cisco) access points from your scrap pile in bridge mode? 100% 
inexpensive ☺

--
ian


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>]
 On Behalf Of John Rodkey
Sent: 05 April 2016 22:36
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WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

I have need for a fairly inexpensive,  low bandwidth (10Mbps), short distance 
(<200 ft)  point to point wireless connection .
I am aware of the Cambrium ePMP 1000 and Ubiquiti nano.
Would anyone like to compare these items or propose other good solutions to 
this type of situation?
John
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[John Rodkey]

That's what I've got in place now, but it also costs because of the yearly
license fees.
It hasn't been 100% reliable, either (interference on 2.4MHz, I'm pretty
sure), so going 5 is desirable.

John

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Ian McDonald <i...@st-andrews.ac.uk> wrote:

> A pair of (cisco) access points from your scrap pile in bridge mode? 100%
> inexpensive J
>
>
>
> --
>
> ian
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *John Rodkey
> *Sent:* 05 April 2016 22:36
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions
>
>
>
> I have need for a fairly inexpensive,  low bandwidth (10Mbps), short
> distance (<200 ft)  point to point wireless connection .
>
> I am aware of the Cambrium ePMP 1000 and Ubiquiti nano.
>
> Would anyone like to compare these items or propose other good solutions
> to this type of situation?
>
> John
>
> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE
> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at
> http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
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>
>

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[Ian McDonald]

A pair of (cisco) access points from your scrap pile in bridge mode? 100% 
inexpensive ☺

--
ian


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of John Rodkey
Sent: 05 April 2016 22:36
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

I have need for a fairly inexpensive,  low bandwidth (10Mbps), short distance 
(<200 ft)  point to point wireless connection .
I am aware of the Cambrium ePMP 1000 and Ubiquiti nano.
Would anyone like to compare these items or propose other good solutions to 
this type of situation?
John
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backhaul wifi comparison/suggestions

[John Rodkey]

I have need for a fairly inexpensive,  low bandwidth (10Mbps), short
distance (<200 ft)  point to point wireless connection .
I am aware of the Cambrium ePMP 1000 and Ubiquiti nano.

Would anyone like to compare these items or propose other good solutions to
this type of situation?

John

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