Re: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-28 Thread Bull, Mary
Thanks everyone for the responses – they definitely contribute to our 
understanding of whether to pursue a high density wifi installment for the 
theaters and concert halls. Looks like we’ll work with the building folks to 
put as much as possible in during the construction phase.

Mary Bull
Network Engineering
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

From: "Bull, Mary" 
Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 12:34 PM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-25 Thread John Rodkey
I feel your pain.
We can all do deep breathing together.  It won't change things, but we'll
feel better about life in general.

John

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:14 AM Jonathan Miller  wrote:

> > Some of this can be affected by the architect and what they deem
> aesthetically pleasing...
>
> This is one of the few things that actually still gets under my skin in
> this line of work.  Architects refusing to allow the installation of access
> points due to aesthetics is ludicrous.  We recently ran into this - even
> after presenting options for mounts and covers to hide our APs in a new
> building.
>
> What about that big red fire alarm horn/strobe, are you not going to allow
> that?
>
> When the complaints about poor wireless performance come in, will you, oh
> great architect and designer of all things beautiful, come in and help us
> troubleshoot?
>
> How will it make you feel when we have to slap wire mold all over your
> glorious aesthetically pleasing creation to run data out to the APs that we
> end up having to install after you turn the building over to us?  I guess
> as long as the wire mold isn't there for the opening ceremony it doesn't
> matter.
>
> If you happen to be in a position that has enough power to push back on
> architects and their asinine refusal to allow installation of access
> points, please back your local networking folks.
>
> OK, back to some deep breathing exercises.
>
> Jonathan Miller
> Network Analyst
> Franklin and Marshall College
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:50 PM Ronald Loneker  wrote:
>
>> Good Afternoon -
>>
>> Some of this can be affected by the architect and what they deem
>> aesthetically pleasing...
>>
>> When our theater was built in our fine and performing arts center 12
>> years ago, the architect was against us putting access points on the wall
>> due to aesthetics.  We ended up putting on AP in our projection booth and
>> one backstage in one of the wings.
>>
>> Our theater was originally slated to be used for all purposes
>> (performances, concerts, lectures, conference presentations, admissions
>> Open Houses, etc) so it really could have used a lot more connectivity than
>> what we could put in the theater.
>>
>> Three years ago, we upgraded the APs in the fine and performing arts
>> center and, with new leadership at the college, added three more access
>> points to support more connections.  Our theater has 560 seats, and we did
>> have a conference that we streamed video plus had public wifi available and
>> we seem to be fine with connectivity.
>>
>> If you can do it and not get pushback from the architect, I'd recommend
>> you build it into your plans for having availability day one.
>>
>> (then you can sit in the back of the theater and watch all the parents
>> with their smart phones raising them up and see the sea of phone screens as
>> they record their kids' performances...because it will happen when you
>> eventually rent out the space...)
>>
>> Ron Loneker, Jr.
>> Director, IT Special Projects
>> College of Saint Elizabeth
>> Mahoney Library
>> 2 Convent Road
>> Morristown, NJ  07960
>>
>> Phone:  973-290-4229
>>
>> e-mail:  rlone...@cse.edu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:44 PM Bull, Mary  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in
>>> the theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a
>>> new arts complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear
>>> direction from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable.
>>> The previous main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus,
>>> did/do not have full connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked
>>> on the walls that were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning
>>> is favorable toward building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially
>>> since it would be much harder or impossible to install if the faculty
>>> changes their mind in a few years once the building is complete. However,
>>> I’m not sure whether there is really an expectation from the audience that
>>> they should have wifi when they attend a show or concert.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mary Bull
>>>
>>> William and Mary
>>>
>>> 757-221-2491
>>>
>>> mb...@wm.edu
>>>
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-25 Thread Jonathan Miller
> Some of this can be affected by the architect and what they deem
aesthetically pleasing...

This is one of the few things that actually still gets under my skin in
this line of work.  Architects refusing to allow the installation of access
points due to aesthetics is ludicrous.  We recently ran into this - even
after presenting options for mounts and covers to hide our APs in a new
building.

What about that big red fire alarm horn/strobe, are you not going to allow
that?

When the complaints about poor wireless performance come in, will you, oh
great architect and designer of all things beautiful, come in and help us
troubleshoot?

How will it make you feel when we have to slap wire mold all over your
glorious aesthetically pleasing creation to run data out to the APs that we
end up having to install after you turn the building over to us?  I guess
as long as the wire mold isn't there for the opening ceremony it doesn't
matter.

If you happen to be in a position that has enough power to push back on
architects and their asinine refusal to allow installation of access
points, please back your local networking folks.

OK, back to some deep breathing exercises.

Jonathan Miller
Network Analyst
Franklin and Marshall College


On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:50 PM Ronald Loneker  wrote:

> Good Afternoon -
>
> Some of this can be affected by the architect and what they deem
> aesthetically pleasing...
>
> When our theater was built in our fine and performing arts center 12 years
> ago, the architect was against us putting access points on the wall due to
> aesthetics.  We ended up putting on AP in our projection booth and one
> backstage in one of the wings.
>
> Our theater was originally slated to be used for all purposes
> (performances, concerts, lectures, conference presentations, admissions
> Open Houses, etc) so it really could have used a lot more connectivity than
> what we could put in the theater.
>
> Three years ago, we upgraded the APs in the fine and performing arts
> center and, with new leadership at the college, added three more access
> points to support more connections.  Our theater has 560 seats, and we did
> have a conference that we streamed video plus had public wifi available and
> we seem to be fine with connectivity.
>
> If you can do it and not get pushback from the architect, I'd recommend
> you build it into your plans for having availability day one.
>
> (then you can sit in the back of the theater and watch all the parents
> with their smart phones raising them up and see the sea of phone screens as
> they record their kids' performances...because it will happen when you
> eventually rent out the space...)
>
> Ron Loneker, Jr.
> Director, IT Special Projects
> College of Saint Elizabeth
> Mahoney Library
> 2 Convent Road
> Morristown, NJ  07960
>
> Phone:  973-290-4229
>
> e-mail:  rlone...@cse.edu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:44 PM Bull, Mary  wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the
>> theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new
>> arts complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear
>> direction from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable.
>> The previous main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus,
>> did/do not have full connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked
>> on the walls that were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning
>> is favorable toward building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially
>> since it would be much harder or impossible to install if the faculty
>> changes their mind in a few years once the building is complete. However,
>> I’m not sure whether there is really an expectation from the audience that
>> they should have wifi when they attend a show or concert.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mary Bull
>>
>> William and Mary
>>
>> 757-221-2491
>>
>> mb...@wm.edu
>>
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-24 Thread Ronald Loneker
Good Afternoon -

We have Listen assistive listening systems in our theater and our new 94
seat auditorium.

ADA requires a certain percentage of assistive listening devices in larger
spaces.

Our system consists of beltpacks with ear buds which would be given to each
attendee who requests them and our sound system does feed the Listen
system.  Your mileage may vary on the use of this system - our experience
is that we've had a few people request them days before the performances
but they've never actually picked them up to use them.

Ron Loneker, Jr.
Director, IT Special Projects
College of Saint Elizabeth
Mahoney Library
2 Convent Road
Morristown, NJ  07960

Phone:  973-290-4229

e-mail:  rlone...@cse.edu






On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:23 AM Schneider, Glenn 
wrote:

> I’ve been sitting on the sidelines in this discussion but wanted to
> mention something we are seeing for use in chapels, theaters and
> auditoriums. That is the use of personal cellular devices to assist hearing
> impaired guests in these venues. I believe the app is Listen Everywhere
> that has an appliance that ties into the sound system and the network to
> provide the service.
>
>
>
> Are there others using these services?
>
>
>
> *Glenn Schneider*
>
> *Director, Network Group*
>
> *Technology Services*
>
> *Samford University*
>
>
>
> 205-726-2663 <+1205-726-2663> | office
>
> gtsch...@samford.edu
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Gray, Sean
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:41 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have
>
>
>
> Put it in while you can. It’s going to be much easier to do it during the
> project than later on when someone complains.
>
>
>
> *Sean Gray* | B.Sc (Hons)
>
> Voice, Collaboration & Wireless Network Analyst
>
> ITS, University of Lethbridge
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Bull, Mary
> *Sent:* October 22, 2019 10:34 AM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the
> theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new
> arts complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear
> direction from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable.
> The previous main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus,
> did/do not have full connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked
> on the walls that were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning
> is favorable toward building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially
> since it would be much harder or impossible to install if the faculty
> changes their mind in a few years once the building is complete. However,
> I’m not sure whether there is really an expectation from the audience that
> they should have wifi when they attend a show or concert.
>
>
>
> Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?
>
>
>
> Mary Bull
>
> William and Mary
>
> 757-221-2491
>
> mb...@wm.edu
>
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-24 Thread Ronald Loneker
Good Afternoon -

Some of this can be affected by the architect and what they deem
aesthetically pleasing...

When our theater was built in our fine and performing arts center 12 years
ago, the architect was against us putting access points on the wall due to
aesthetics.  We ended up putting on AP in our projection booth and one
backstage in one of the wings.

Our theater was originally slated to be used for all purposes
(performances, concerts, lectures, conference presentations, admissions
Open Houses, etc) so it really could have used a lot more connectivity than
what we could put in the theater.

Three years ago, we upgraded the APs in the fine and performing arts center
and, with new leadership at the college, added three more access points to
support more connections.  Our theater has 560 seats, and we did have a
conference that we streamed video plus had public wifi available and we
seem to be fine with connectivity.

If you can do it and not get pushback from the architect, I'd recommend you
build it into your plans for having availability day one.

(then you can sit in the back of the theater and watch all the parents with
their smart phones raising them up and see the sea of phone screens as they
record their kids' performances...because it will happen when you
eventually rent out the space...)

Ron Loneker, Jr.
Director, IT Special Projects
College of Saint Elizabeth
Mahoney Library
2 Convent Road
Morristown, NJ  07960

Phone:  973-290-4229

e-mail:  rlone...@cse.edu







On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:44 PM Bull, Mary  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the
> theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new
> arts complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear
> direction from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable.
> The previous main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus,
> did/do not have full connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked
> on the walls that were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning
> is favorable toward building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially
> since it would be much harder or impossible to install if the faculty
> changes their mind in a few years once the building is complete. However,
> I’m not sure whether there is really an expectation from the audience that
> they should have wifi when they attend a show or concert.
>
>
>
> Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?
>
>
>
> Mary Bull
>
> William and Mary
>
> 757-221-2491
>
> mb...@wm.edu
>
> **
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RE: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-23 Thread Glinsky, Eric
I agree with the all-or-nothing stance. Better to have nothing than to have 
mediocrity, which frustrates users as mentioned. If nothing, at least have a 
design and wiring ready. Then buy APs and switches/blades when ready to commit.

We’re just beginning to talk about upgrading wireless in the main performing 
arts theater, which now has good coverage but not density, at the request of 
its manager. Yes, people should be paying attention to the performance, but 
that’s not the only thing the space is used for, plus I’ve personally 
experienced decent WiFi speed during a performance, but then everyone tries to 
use WiFi during intermission and it becomes useless.

Someone mentioned working with the sound engineers in the theater. Absolutely! 
Over the summer, we were asked to disable WiFi in the theater entirely because 
it was causing popping sounds over the headset system. Sure enough, the 
documentation of their system (HME Clear-Com DX – I have a PDF on this if 
anyone’s interested) states that it uses “Spectrum Friendly Mode” (ha!) 
utilizing either the high end or the low end of the 2.4-2.8GHz band, basically 
leaving us only either channel 1 or 11 to use for coexistence. We turned off 
2.4 GHz in the whole building and their issues reportedly went away, but the 
theater manager has since told us to turn it back on and we haven’t heard about 
it since.
Eric Glinsky
Network Technician
University of Connecticut
ITS – Network Operations
Temporary Administration Building
25 Gampel Service Drive | Storrs, CT 06269-1138
(860) 486-9199
e...@uconn.edu<mailto:e...@uconn.edu>




From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Schneider, Glenn
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 11:13 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

I’ve been sitting on the sidelines in this discussion but wanted to mention 
something we are seeing for use in chapels, theaters and auditoriums. That is 
the use of personal cellular devices to assist hearing impaired guests in these 
venues. I believe the app is Listen Everywhere that has an appliance that ties 
into the sound system and the network to provide the service.

Are there others using these services?

Glenn Schneider
Director, Network Group
Technology Services
Samford University

205-726-2663 | office
gtsch...@samford.edu<mailto:gtsch...@samford.edu>

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Gray, Sean
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:41 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Put it in while you can. It’s going to be much easier to do it during the 
project than later on when someone complains.

Sean Gray | B.Sc (Hons)
Voice, Collaboration & Wireless Network Analyst
ITS, University of Lethbridge

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Bull, Mary
Sent: October 22, 2019 10:34 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu<mailto:mb...@wm.edu>

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RE: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-23 Thread Schneider, Glenn
I’ve been sitting on the sidelines in this discussion but wanted to mention 
something we are seeing for use in chapels, theaters and auditoriums. That is 
the use of personal cellular devices to assist hearing impaired guests in these 
venues. I believe the app is Listen Everywhere that has an appliance that ties 
into the sound system and the network to provide the service.

Are there others using these services?

Glenn Schneider
Director, Network Group
Technology Services
Samford University

205-726-2663 | office
gtsch...@samford.edu<mailto:gtsch...@samford.edu>

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Gray, Sean
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:41 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Put it in while you can. It’s going to be much easier to do it during the 
project than later on when someone complains.

Sean Gray | B.Sc (Hons)
Voice, Collaboration & Wireless Network Analyst
ITS, University of Lethbridge

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Bull, Mary
Sent: October 22, 2019 10:34 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu<mailto:mb...@wm.edu>

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RE: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-23 Thread Gray, Sean
Put it in while you can. It’s going to be much easier to do it during the 
project than later on when someone complains.

Sean Gray | B.Sc (Hons)
Voice, Collaboration & Wireless Network Analyst
ITS, University of Lethbridge

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Bull, Mary
Sent: October 22, 2019 10:34 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu<mailto:mb...@wm.edu>

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RE: [EXT]: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-23 Thread Muraca, Peppino P.
Hi , I would defiantly wire for access points and depending on what type of 
ceiling the architect goes with ( access to locations) I would add the waps. 
You can easily disabled them for events if requested.
Here at Stonehill we plan for coverage in every interior space, we have 
actually had our theatre arts people ask to expand wireless in the theatre.

Like others have said it is easy to add them now , and much more difficult and 
expensive later on.

Pino

Peppino Muraca
Manager of Network Services
Stonehill College
W:508-565-1193
C:508-243-5910
pmur...@stonehill.edu<mailto:pmur...@stonehill.edu>




From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Bull, Mary
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:34 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [EXT]: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu<mailto:mb...@wm.edu>

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RE: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Yahya M. Jaber
If there is no clear decision, at least have the cabling infrastructure ready.

Yahya Jaber.
Sr. Wireless Engineer
IT Network & Communications – Engineering
Building 14, Level 3, Rm 308-WS07
KAUST 23955-6900 Thuwal, KSA

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bull, Mary
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 19:34
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu<mailto:mb...@wm.edu>

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Mike Atkins
Mary,

Our goal is to cover occupied spaces indoors with a standard density
deployment.  We deploy high density for large auditoriums/classrooms that
have a primary or significant use by the campus population.  We lean on the
building/venue management and department heads for “specialty” Wi-Fi needed
in large stadiums/arenas/theaters where the majority of occupants are
guests here for a ticketed event.  In those cases we ask the
venue/department to help fund the installation/maintenance because the cost
that is above our typical offering.  Sometimes this works, sometimes it
does not.



Athletics covers some of the cost for high density guest Wi-Fi in areas
like basketball and football but choose not to cover high density for
baseball, soccer, and Lacrosse.  Hockey is likely to be the next specialty
guest Wi-Fi since we have been talking about it for a long time.  But
again, this would be contingent on athletics funding a portion of the
installation/maintenance.



Our performing arts theatre was due for wireless upgrades this year.  That
venue choose to go with just the standard campus density deployment for the
office and work spaces while turning down high density “specialty” Wi-Fi in
the large auditoriums.  History shows for this particular venue we end up
setting up temporary Wi-Fi once a year.  It is hard to fault them on
choosing to not put extra money into large venue high density deployment
when their customers (events) only demand “usable” Wi-Fi once a year.  In
this case the temporary setup is usually a couple APs and a dedicated
radio/SSID.



Another good example my co-worker uses is the dining halls.  We cover the
dining hall Wi-Fi upgrades with maintenance/upgrade funds because these are
campus users.  In the past the dining hall wanted little or no Wi-Fi so
students would eat and get out.  That has slowly changed but it is a good
example that we have to keep the big picture in perspective and protect our
customers from themselves.











*Mike Atkins *

Network Engineer

Office of Information Technology

University of Notre Dame



*From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Bull, Mary
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:34 PM
*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have



Hello all,



I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new
arts complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear
direction from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable.
The previous main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus,
did/do not have full connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked
on the walls that were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning
is favorable toward building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially
since it would be much harder or impossible to install if the faculty
changes their mind in a few years once the building is complete. However,
I’m not sure whether there is really an expectation from the audience that
they should have wifi when they attend a show or concert.



Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?



Mary Bull

William and Mary

757-221-2491

mb...@wm.edu

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Philippe Hanset
I designed a bunch of auditorium and theaters’  Wi-Fi during my days at Univ. 
of TN.

If you do it, do it well, or don't do it at all. Otherwise it will cost you in 
support/complaints/reputation.

And get with the sound system people of those large venues before you lay your 
spectrum!


Philippe

Philippe Hanset, CEO
www.anyroam.net
Operator of eduroam-US
+1 (865) 236-0770

GPG key id: 0xF2636F9C


> On Oct 22, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Coehoorn, Joel  wrote:
> 
> Add one counter-opinion. I tend to believe you **WILL** want coverage here, 
> and probably very soon; it's just what modern students expect.  But at the 
> same time, this can be a very costly project just because "someone will need 
> it someday".
> 
> **DO** add the switching and network drops to support the APs you'll need to 
> provide coverage. That part will be fairly cheap now, but grossly more 
> expensive afterwards. And **DO** have a bid in front of project planners to 
> handle the AP purchase, licensing, and installation. It's likely they'll make 
> the jump...
> 
> ... but let those stakeholders make the decision.
> 
> We had a project recently where we raised some funds to install new bleachers 
> and do a cosmetic refresh (paint and carpet) in a gym. I suggested that while 
> the old bleachers were gone was a good time to improve wifi support in the 
> building and gave a cost estimate to the project planners. They opted to do 
> the wifi updates, but it was their decision.
> 
> 
> Joel Coehoorn
> Director of Information Technology
> 402.363.5603
> jcoeho...@york.edu <mailto:jcoeho...@york.edu>
> 
> Please contact helpd...@york.edu <mailto:helpd...@york.edu> for technical 
> assistance.
> 
> The mission of York College is to transform lives through Christ-centered 
> education and to equip students for lifelong service to God, family, and 
> society
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 1:36 PM Johnson, Christopher  <mailto:cbjo...@ilstu.edu>> wrote:
> Put it in while you can indeed to what Michael said. And funny point about 
> the “student expectation at times is unrealistic” as my co-worker overheard a 
> girl saying recently the “Wi-Fi” sucks, when her friend asked her why, it was 
> because it drops off under a 4 direction walk-way under-pass beneath an 
> intersection….
> 
>  
> 
> Christopher Johnson
> 
> Wireless Network Engineer
> 
> AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
> 
> Illinois State University
> 
> (309) 438-8444
> 
> Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on Facebook 
> <https://www.facebook.com/ISUITHelp/> and Twitter 
> <https://twitter.com/ISUITHelp>
> From: Johnson, Christopher 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:33 PM
> To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
>  <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
> Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have
> 
>  
> 
> Same situation as with what Thomas Carter ran into.
> 
>  
> 
> We ran into the same situation a few years ago -> currently have one AP in 
> the concert hall seating area and one in the theatre seating area (the 
> concert hall AP is up in the cat-walk and does a surprisingly good amount of 
> coverage/reflection around the area down below) -> because the rooms are used 
> for more that just theatre/performances – sometimes for classes and others 
> for important presentations/presenters. We were asked by a couple individuals 
> “can we just say no to Wifi” in those area during campus upgrade. We did add 
> several additional APs in the atrium area for where students study and the 
> back-stage areas for performers when taking their breaks. It was ultimately 
> decided no additional density due to cost (new work in old work).
> 
>  
> 
> To the point about “distractions during performances and 
> presentations/“people would be using devices instead of watching the 
> performances” -> we got complaints again about Wi-Fi in the concert hall – 
> and one of the IT folks brought up a very good and interesting point “I think 
> several around me were more distracted by continual efforts to get a good 
> connection because that is what the expectation is these days.  And the rest 
> were just flipped over to cell probably without knowing it.”
> 
>  
> 
> Christopher Johnson
> 
> Wireless Network Engineer
> 
> AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
> 
> Illinois State University
> 
> (309) 438-8444
> 
> Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on Facebook 
> <https://www.facebook.com/ISUITHelp/> and Twitter 
> <https://twitter.com/ISUITHelp>
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wir

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Coehoorn, Joel
Add one counter-opinion. I tend to believe you **WILL** want coverage here,
and probably very soon; it's just what modern students expect.  But at the
same time, this can be a very costly project just because "someone will
need it someday".

**DO** add the switching and network drops to support the APs you'll need
to provide coverage. That part will be fairly cheap now, but grossly more
expensive afterwards. And **DO** have a bid in front of project planners to
handle the AP purchase, licensing, and installation. It's likely they'll
make the jump...

... but let those stakeholders make the decision.

We had a project recently where we raised some funds to install new
bleachers and do a cosmetic refresh (paint and carpet) in a gym. I
suggested that while the old bleachers were gone was a good time to improve
wifi support in the building and gave a cost estimate to the project
planners. They opted to do the wifi updates, but it was their decision.

Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
402.363.5603
*jcoeho...@york.edu *

*Please contact helpd...@york.edu  for technical
assistance.*


The mission of York College is to transform lives through
Christ-centered education and to equip students for lifelong service to
God, family, and society


On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 1:36 PM Johnson, Christopher 
wrote:

> Put it in while you can indeed to what Michael said. And funny point about
> the “student expectation at times is unrealistic” as my co-worker overheard
> a girl saying recently the “Wi-Fi” sucks, when her friend asked her why, it
> was because it drops off under a 4 direction walk-way under-pass beneath an
> intersection….
>
>
>
> *Christopher Johnson*
>
> Wireless Network Engineer
>
> AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
>
> Illinois State University
>
> (309) 438-8444
>
> Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on Facebook
> <https://www.facebook.com/ISUITHelp/> and Twitter
> <https://twitter.com/ISUITHelp>
>
> *From:* Johnson, Christopher
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:33 PM
> *To:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> *Subject:* RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have
>
>
>
> Same situation as with what Thomas Carter ran into.
>
>
>
> We ran into the same situation a few years ago -> currently have one AP in
> the concert hall seating area and one in the theatre seating area (the
> concert hall AP is up in the cat-walk and does a surprisingly good amount
> of coverage/reflection around the area down below) -> because the rooms are
> used for more that just theatre/performances – *sometimes for classes and
> others for important presentations/presenters*. We were asked by a couple
> individuals “can we just say no to Wifi” in those area during campus
> upgrade. *We did add several additional APs in the atrium area for where
> students study and the back-stage areas for performers when taking their
> breaks*. It was ultimately decided no additional density due to cost (new
> work in old work).
>
>
>
> To the point about “distractions during performances and presentations/“people
> would be using devices instead of watching the performances” -> we got
> complaints again about Wi-Fi in the concert hall – and one of the IT folks
> brought up a very good and interesting point *“I think several around me
> were more distracted by continual efforts to get a good connection because
> that is what the expectation is these days.  And the rest were just flipped
> over to cell probably without knowing it.”*
>
>
>
> *Christopher Johnson*
>
> Wireless Network Engineer
>
> AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
>
> Illinois State University
>
> (309) 438-8444
>
> Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on Facebook
> <https://www.facebook.com/ISUITHelp/> and Twitter
> <https://twitter.com/ISUITHelp>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Manon Lessard
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:37 PM
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have
>
>
>
> *[This message came from an external source. If suspicious, report to
> ab...@ilstu.edu ] *
>
> Not only do most students expect it, universities push their online
> learning platforms, performers appreciate it and you can hand them “on the
> cheap”, but there’s always the possibility that some are going to be used
> for convocation ceremonies…meaning lots and lots of happy grads and their
> parents who want to share over social media (else, beware of Spott

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Johnson, Christopher
Put it in while you can indeed to what Michael said. And funny point about the 
“student expectation at times is unrealistic” as my co-worker overheard a girl 
saying recently the “Wi-Fi” sucks, when her friend asked her why, it was 
because it drops off under a 4 direction walk-way under-pass beneath an 
intersection….

Christopher Johnson
Wireless Network Engineer
AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
Illinois State University
(309) 438-8444
Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on 
Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/ISUITHelp/> and 
Twitter<https://twitter.com/ISUITHelp>
From: Johnson, Christopher
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:33 PM
To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Same situation as with what Thomas Carter ran into.

We ran into the same situation a few years ago -> currently have one AP in the 
concert hall seating area and one in the theatre seating area (the concert hall 
AP is up in the cat-walk and does a surprisingly good amount of 
coverage/reflection around the area down below) -> because the rooms are used 
for more that just theatre/performances – sometimes for classes and others for 
important presentations/presenters. We were asked by a couple individuals “can 
we just say no to Wifi” in those area during campus upgrade. We did add several 
additional APs in the atrium area for where students study and the back-stage 
areas for performers when taking their breaks. It was ultimately decided no 
additional density due to cost (new work in old work).

To the point about “distractions during performances and presentations/“people 
would be using devices instead of watching the performances” -> we got 
complaints again about Wi-Fi in the concert hall – and one of the IT folks 
brought up a very good and interesting point “I think several around me were 
more distracted by continual efforts to get a good connection because that is 
what the expectation is these days.  And the rest were just flipped over to 
cell probably without knowing it.”

Christopher Johnson
Wireless Network Engineer
AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION)
Illinois State University
(309) 438-8444
Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on 
Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/ISUITHelp/> and 
Twitter<https://twitter.com/ISUITHelp>
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Manon Lessard
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

[This message came from an external source. If suspicious, report to 
ab...@ilstu.edu<mailto:ab...@ilstu.edu>]
Not only do most students expect it, universities push their online learning 
platforms, performers appreciate it and you can hand them “on the cheap”, but 
there’s always the possibility that some are going to be used for convocation 
ceremonies…meaning lots and lots of happy grads and their parents who want to 
share over social media (else, beware of Spotted:Your Uni)

Manon Lessard
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of Tomo mailto:t...@london.edu>>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 1:28 PM
To: 
"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

ATTENTION : L’émetteur de ce courriel est externe à l’Université Laval
Évitez de cliquer sur un hyperlien, d’ouvrir une pièce jointe ou de transmettre 
des informations si vous ne connaissez pas l’expéditeur du courriel. En cas de 
doute, contactez l’équipe de soutien informatique de votre unité ou 
hameconn...@ulaval.ca<mailto:hameconn...@ulaval.ca>.


I can think of some performers who have actively encouraged their audience to 
take pictures/videos and share them (live) on social media.
Having decent connectivity obviously can support such activities.

Install it!



Tomo | Infrastruc

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Manon Lessard




Not only do most students expect it, universities push their online learning platforms, performers appreciate it and you can hand them “on the cheap”, but there’s always the
 possibility that some are going to be used for convocation ceremonies…meaning lots and lots of happy grads and their parents who want to share over social media (else, beware of Spotted:Your Uni)
 





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I can think of some performers who have actively encouraged their audience to take pictures/videos and share them (live) on social media.
Having decent connectivity obviously can support such activities.
 
Install it!
 


 

 




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Add me to the “install it” list as we’re going through this exact thing with our theater department. They have pushed back with concerns that “people
 would be using devices instead of watching the performances”. But that venue is used for more than just plays and we can’t stop people from looking at cell phones.
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin College
900 North Grand Avenue 
Sherman, TX 75090
Phone: 903-813-2564
www.austincollege.edu
 
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I'll jump on the install train. Every time I try to save the university money, it only comes back to bite me in the rear.

 


On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:11 PM Benedick, Jason <bened...@stevenscollege.edu> wrote:




I’d install it, you can always disable SSIDs in those areas to prevent people from using it, but I’d bet there will be
 something that will require it sooner rather than later.
 

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

 


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Hello all,
 
I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus.
 We have a new arts complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full connectivity
 for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much harder or impossible to install if the faculty
 changes their mind in a few years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they attend a show 

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Tomo
I can think of some performers who have actively encouraged their audience to 
take pictures/videos and share them (live) on social media.
Having decent connectivity obviously can support such activities.

Install it!



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Add me to the “install it” list as we’re going through this exact thing with 
our theater department. They have pushed back with concerns that “people would 
be using devices instead of watching the performances”. But that venue is used 
for more than just plays and we can’t stop people from looking at cell phones.
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin College
900 North Grand Avenue
Sherman, TX 75090
Phone: 903-813-2564
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I'll jump on the install train. Every time I try to save the university money, 
it only comes back to bite me in the rear.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:11 PM Benedick, Jason 
mailto:bened...@stevenscollege.edu>> wrote:
I’d install it, you can always disable SSIDs in those areas to prevent people 
from using it, but I’d bet there will be something that will require it sooner 
rather than later.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

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I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Thomas Carter
Add me to the “install it” list as we’re going through this exact thing with 
our theater department. They have pushed back with concerns that “people would 
be using devices instead of watching the performances”. But that venue is used 
for more than just plays and we can’t stop people from looking at cell phones.
Thomas Carter
Network & Operations Manager / IT
Austin College
900 North Grand Avenue
Sherman, TX 75090
Phone: 903-813-2564
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:14 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

I'll jump on the install train. Every time I try to save the university money, 
it only comes back to bite me in the rear.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:11 PM Benedick, Jason 
mailto:bened...@stevenscollege.edu>> wrote:
I’d install it, you can always disable SSIDs in those areas to prevent people 
from using it, but I’d bet there will be something that will require it sooner 
rather than later.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

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I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
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RE: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Benedick, Jason
I’d install it, you can always disable SSIDs in those areas to prevent people 
from using it, but I’d bet there will be something that will require it sooner 
rather than later.

Thanks,
Jason R. Benedick
IT Generalist
Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology
Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu<mailto:mb...@wm.edu>

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Steve Fletty
Several years ago, the University of Minnesota gutted and redid the big
~3000 seat auditorium on the Twin Cities campus, Northrop Memorial
Auditorium. One of the driving factors to put WiFi in the auditorium space
came from consultants, who emphasized the importance of social media. We
had to hide the APs of course.

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 11:44 AM Bull, Mary  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the
> theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new
> arts complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear
> direction from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable.
> The previous main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus,
> did/do not have full connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked
> on the walls that were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning
> is favorable toward building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially
> since it would be much harder or impossible to install if the faculty
> changes their mind in a few years once the building is complete. However,
> I’m not sure whether there is really an expectation from the audience that
> they should have wifi when they attend a show or concert.
>
>
>
> Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?
>
>
>
> Mary Bull
>
> William and Mary
>
> 757-221-2491
>
> mb...@wm.edu
>
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RE: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Hales, David
We installed wireless in our big auditorium on campus several years ago because 
it gets used for the occasional event where wireless is useful.  We have 
recruiting and large scale campus visit events in there and sometimes have 
participants fill out online forms and applications during sessions in there.

While it might not seem that it would be used in there, someone will want it 
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Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu<mailto:mb...@wm.edu>

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Christopher H Ressel
We just had a new arts building come online in a very similar scenario. One of 
the biggest pains for us was dealing with the acoustic, aesthetic, and monetary 
constraints of getting wireless into some of the acoustically engineered 
concert halls. Our campus standard is for wireless coverage in all spaces.



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Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 9:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

As of right now we are only doing wireless backstage and in the ticketing 
booths.  There is some bleed over into the audience section, but we are not 
trying to cover an entire theater.  Haven’t been asked to do this as of yet.  
All of our theaters have been in place for years and getting this done now 
would be a nightmare.  If a new theater was coming up I would probably do the 
design work and get the pipes to the correct places so that we would have the 
option to do something in the future.

Thanks,
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Hunter Fuller
There was never any question, we have always offered wireless in these
locations. However, none of ours are old enough for the word
"historic" to be involved, so we have it pretty easy.

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Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama in Huntsville
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 11:44 AM Bull, Mary  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
> theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
> complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
> from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
> main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have 
> full connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that 
> were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
> building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
> harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
> years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
> really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
> attend a show or concert.
>
>
>
> Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?
>
>
>
> Mary Bull
>
> William and Mary
>
> 757-221-2491
>
> mb...@wm.edu
>
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Mallon, Jason
As of right now we are only doing wireless backstage and in the ticketing 
booths.  There is some bleed over into the audience section, but we are not 
trying to cover an entire theater.  Haven’t been asked to do this as of yet.  
All of our theaters have been in place for years and getting this done now 
would be a nightmare.  If a new theater was coming up I would probably do the 
design work and get the pipes to the correct places so that we would have the 
option to do something in the future.

Thanks,
Jason Mallon | Network Engineer III
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 on behalf of "Bull, Mary" 
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 

Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 11:44 AM
To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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RE: [EXT] [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Michael Cole
On our campus wireless is always expected every where, whether in theater 
halls, parking lots, classrooms or outside walking between buildings.  The 
students expectation at times is unrealistic, when it gets to off campus 
apartments in the neighborhood.  Put it in while you’re doing the planning and 
it will be there for you when you need it.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Bull, Mary
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:34 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [EXT] [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu<mailto:mb...@wm.edu>

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RE: Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Lee H Badman
Put it in while you can. Better to have and not need versus the opposite. Never 
know when some event will need it.

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Bull, Mary
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:34 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have

Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu<mailto:mb...@wm.edu>

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Theater wifi - to have or not to have

2019-10-22 Thread Bull, Mary
Hello all,

I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the 
theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts 
complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction 
from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous 
main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full 
connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were 
useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward 
building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much 
harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few 
years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is 
really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they 
attend a show or concert.

Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice?

Mary Bull
William and Mary
757-221-2491
mb...@wm.edu

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