Re: [WISPA] Lightning protecting WRAPs

2005-09-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
Blair, I am using a DC to DC converter with each of my WRAPs so they are powered with the Lucent standard 48V POE. The D-Link 5V/12V switchable POE units work fine for this. I take it then that the D-Link 12V Poe terminator then acts sorta like a fuse or barrier between the WRAP and the

Re: [WISPA] Martin's call for more radio frequency spectrumforemergency responders

2005-09-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
K, I can't agree with you more. The problem is we don't have real world examples with 700 Mhz spectrum or with Public Safety. The reason is we have not been awarded the tsk to provide it, and therefore can only offer our concepts in theory. Thats the big disadvantage we'd have compared to

Re: [WISPA] Martin's call for more radio frequency spectrum for emergency responders

2005-09-28 Thread Tony Weasler
Hi kc! For those of you who don't know her, she is one of the pioneers of the 'Use _accurate_ data, stupid' movement [1]. She and CAIDA have produced some of the best real-world analysis of IP networks that I have seen (and I've spent considerable time looking.) She is also a serial presenter at

Re: [WISPA] Martin's call for more radio frequency spectrum foremergency responders

2005-09-28 Thread k claffy
[too long and off-topic academic rant, delete now unless you have strong stomach] On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 12:45:32AM -0500, John Scrivner wrote: I see you have made your introduction K. :-) I think you guys will find this lady's enthusiasm toward policy change to be no less than

Re: [WISPA] Lightning protecting WRAPs

2005-09-28 Thread Blair Davis
Tom DeReggi wrote: Blair, I am using a DC to DC converter with each of my WRAPs so they are powered with the Lucent standard 48V POE. The D-Link 5V/12V switchable POE units work fine for this. I take it then that the D-Link 12V Poe terminator then acts sorta like a fuse or

Re: [WISPA] Lightning protecting WRAPs

2005-09-28 Thread Dylan Oliver
What is FiberCor, and where do you get it? Would you post a pic of one of these assemblies? Thanks,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] Lightning protecting WRAPs

2005-09-28 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I just ordered the cat 5 from ARC Wireless. He gave me a price of .0689 per foot. GREAT DEAL! Thanks Blair. Brian Blair Davis wrote: Tom DeReggi wrote: Blair, I am using a DC to DC converter with each of my WRAPs so they are powered with the Lucent standard 48V POE. The

[WISPA] WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread Jory Privett
As a WISP paid member does anyone know where I can get discount passes to WispCon in Dallas October 9-11? Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

[WISPA] Installer looking for work in Florida

2005-09-28 Thread Dan Metcalf
My Installation Manager had to move to Florida for personal reasons and is looking for work, has experience installing canopy, trango, karlnet (physical install and aiming), can make cat5 cables, and can tower climb, has years of experience running cat5/cable, also managed a crew with 2 junior

Re: [WISPA] WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
As a paid member of p15 or wispa? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)

RE: [WISPA] WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread Charles Wu
WISPA was started initially in response to Part-15/WISPCON's lack of representation of true WISP issues (although you can't fault Mike for it, it needs to be known that Part-15.org is a FOR-PROFIT organization existing to put money in Mike's pocket). Until recently (due to circumstances created

Re: [WISPA] shipping info for Mac D.

2005-09-28 Thread Tim Wolfe
Hey Mac, the package is on the way. Since I don't have the email address to send tracking, here it is(now everybody can track it!!) FedEx: 057274810085245 inclosed in the package is: 10-3ft jumpers-Times Microwave LMR400 and connectors 10 rolls of electrical tape(Not Scotch 33, but good enough

Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting

2005-09-28 Thread Matt Liotta
I'm interested. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, I'm setting up some FCC meetings for late Oct. or early Nov. I need 5 people to go. I'm looking mainly for folks that haven't been there before. We'll get together after the team is picked and talk about what we'd

RE: [WISPA] Installer looking for work in Florida

2005-09-28 Thread dustin jurman
I'm in Tampa and always looking for good guys. DSJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 11:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Installer looking for work in Florida My Installation

Re: [WISPA] Installer looking for work in Florida

2005-09-28 Thread RickG
Which part of Florida? On 9/28/05, Dan Metcalf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Installation Manager had to move to Florida for personal reasons and islooking for work, has experience installing canopy, trango, karlnet (physical install and aiming), can make cat5 cables, and can tower climb, has years

RE: [WISPA] FCC meeting

2005-09-28 Thread dustin jurman
Always interested DSJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:18 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: [WISPA] FCC meeting Hi All, I'm

Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting

2005-09-28 Thread A. Huppenthal
I'll have some time then Marlon. and can volunteer. I have a tie. Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, I'm setting up some FCC meetings for late Oct. or early Nov. I need 5 people to go. I'm looking mainly for folks that haven't been there before. We'll get together after the

Re: [WISPA] WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread A. Huppenthal
Your best bet for a commercial trade show is to approach vendors presenting there. Check the site and contact any of the vendors - they have a vested interest in selling you stuff and therefore have an interest in getting you in the door. The organizers are interested in making money off you

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Show Interests was: WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread John Scrivner
Actually I did not speak out of turn. I stand by my original post in all details unless you have alternate information. I am not trying to start an argument here but I think I spoke 100% the truth in my last post. I welcome proof to the contrary but I did not use speculation in my post. I

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Show Interests was: WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: or dislike one or the other fine. There are more important things to talk about on this list though. Does this mean I should hold my toungue (fingers, as it were) regarding Part 15? :-) -- Butch Evans BPS Networks

RE: [WISPA] WISPA Show Interests was: WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread Charles Wu
Last I understood, Part-15 was also a Non-Profit. That's the sham Although .org domain names are traditionally reserved for non-profit institutions, there is nothing within ICANN policy preventing a for-profit organization from registering a .org domain A quick who-is of Part-15.org

RE: [WISPA] WISPA Show Interests was: WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread Charles Wu
snip It should be noted that of all organizations mentioned above that WISPA is the only one that is federally recognized under CFR # 501c6 as a non-profit trade association.. Every other entity listed above is working to make a profit in their efforts and as such would likely be looking to

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Show Interests was: WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'm not sure what part you thought made no sense. Maybe I was not possitive enough about WISPA? Maybe, Im not accurate on the current state of Part-15's legal status? It doesn't matter. All I really meant is WISPA is a GROUP for WISPS operated by WISPs. I'm a strong supporter and member of

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Show Interests was: WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
John, do not believe we should be taking away any importance in the governance aspect of WISPA being established as a 501c6. I fully agree, it is excellent that WISPA had the dicipline to follow through with the process. It valididates the organization. Its just that that arguement couldn't

[WISPA] Cool it

2005-09-28 Thread John Scrivner
Charles, Enough! I don't care what you think you can do to harm your competitors but you are not doing it on this list server any longer. If you want to slam another show competitor do it offlist or on your own list server. We are not doing that here, Charles. This thread is 100% closed to

[WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions

2005-09-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'm using Mikrotik live for the first time tommorrow and in a crunch for an 8am install. 1 We flashed Mikrotik to WRAP boards. However, it will not shut down, and their for prevents soft reboot. This is a known issue with WRAP boards listed in their docs, and can be fixed with a kernal bit

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2

2005-09-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
Also We were unable to bridge a Wifi card to the Ethernet port when in Station mode, and successfully pass traffic. In Mikrotik documentation, it clearly states that this is NOT supported because of a limitation of WiFi. I find it hard to believe that Mikrotik can't be used as a bridged

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Show Interests was: WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread George
Charles Wu wrote: if you (as a WISP), don't bother to spend the time/money/energy supporting WISPA, then don't complain if legislation leaves you in the dust -Charles Well said, do you think you could post this a few times on the various lists? George -- WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] Cool it

2005-09-28 Thread George
John Scrivner wrote: Charles, Enough! I don't care what you think you can do to harm your competitors but you are not doing it on this list server any longer. If you want to slam another show competitor do it offlist or on your own list server. We are not doing that here, Charles. This thread

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2

2005-09-28 Thread David E. Smith
Tom DeReggi wrote: I have Station Server boxes, configured as Stations, and have them set as bridges with no problem. Am I missing something? Am I correct that Mikrotiks can't be set up as bridges between Ethernet and Wifi port? For various reasons I do NOT want to route. This is a

[WISPA] Here's how you get the government to subsidize you....

2005-09-28 Thread George
So here is one way to get subsidized Board tells Verizon: cut rates, step up broadband By David Gram, Associated Press Writer | September 27, 2005 MONTPELIER, Vt. --The Public Service Board ordered the Verizon phone company to cut rates by more than $8 million -- and perhaps as much as

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Show Interests was: WISPCon

2005-09-28 Thread Bob Moldashel
Charles Wu wrote: snip All I really meant is WISPA is a GROUP for WISPS operated by WISPs. I'm a strong supporter and member of WISPA. Part-15 is a group for WISPs by an individual. I'm not sure what doesn't make sense about that, thats the way I see it. Nothing wrong with either model,

RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik Quick questions 2

2005-09-28 Thread Rick Smith
You CAN bridge wireless cards and ethernet... Need to use EOIP tunnels however. Contact Butch Evans... http://www.butchevans.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:12 PM To: WISPA General

[WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!

2005-09-28 Thread John Scrivner
If you are on other lists please forward this message to every unlicensed list you know of so we get 100% of this industry to do this PLEASE! This will take about 5 minutes of your time and it may make history for our industry. The FCC has had an open Notice of Proposed Rulemaking called

RE: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!

2005-09-28 Thread JNA
Just sent mine. Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929130449 ' John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT