[WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread Frank Muto
In light of SBC CEO Edward Whitacre’s comments about charging websites a fee for providing services to SBC broadband customers, NYCwireless is launching the NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge. NYCwireless is challenging every company that provides broadband services in NYC to make

[WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot

2005-11-07 Thread Blair Davis
Hi all. I'm looking for an IP based remote reboot or relay controller. It must be small, controlled via http or telnet, and be able to turn a relay off or on remotely Oh, before I forget, cheap, too! Any ideas? -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless

RE: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot

2005-11-07 Thread G.Villarini
Realay control or AC? Cause APC has a cheap ups that's has a Ethernet port for remote reboot ... $80 Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread Frank Muto
Just passing on some information that may be of interest to anyone. Entitlement vs. laws, and a company's TOS/AUP I'm sure are all involved in one form or another, as with anything else concerning the use of a network to access the Internet or other service. As far as I am concerned, this whole

Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread George
Couple of thoughts on this. Seeing they are moving to fee based non profit rather than a community group that is being financed by themselves and their node hosts, Fine, let the them go to the school of hard nocks and figure out why our subs are not allowed to run servers on the network

[WISPA] Rohn 65G or Nello 65N

2005-11-07 Thread noc.kl.terranova.net
We have 60 feet of Rohn 65G tower and need to take it to 100 feet. Does anyone have any 65G or 65N tower sections they want to sell? Thanks. - cw -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread John Scrivner
I can see it now. We will soon be charging for termination and origination of IP traffic on networks. Just like long distance phone calls used to be. Yaykill me now. Scriv Frank Muto wrote: Just passing on some information that may be of interest to anyone. Entitlement vs. laws, and a

Re: [WISPA] Martin Stewart Reply

2005-11-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
On the other hand, if he wants to market his goods and services to WISPA members he really needs to support the asso. to gain the right to do that. He needs to be a vendor member or at the very least buy and ad. At the very very least he needs to offer general help to wispa membership so

RE: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot

2005-11-07 Thread la
Not the cheapest, but they're really nice: http://www.wti.com I've used and installed them for many years. Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
The elecric company doesn't care what you do with their electricity... The gas company doesn't care what you do with their gas... The water company doesn't care what you do with your water... Why should the ISP care what you do with your connection, as long as it doesn't affect their network?

Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread RickG
LOL Frank! Give'em their eggs over hard cause they'll never take it the easy way! I agree with your sediments! On 11/7/05, Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just passing on some information that may be of interest to anyone. Entitlement vs. laws, and a company's TOS/AUP I'm sure are all

Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread Peter R.
John Scrivner wrote: I can see it now. We will soon be charging for termination and origination of IP traffic on networks. Just like long distance phone calls used to be. Yaykill me now. Scriv That's the model the RBOCs are comfortable with - since it makes them billions. REgards,

Re: [WISPA] ROKR

2005-11-07 Thread Peter R.
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: The elecric company doesn't care what you do with their electricity... The gas company doesn't care what you do with their gas... The water company doesn't care what you do with your water... Why should the ISP care what you do with your connection, as long as it

Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot

2005-11-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Which model APC has Ethernet reboot for $80? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: G.Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:37 AM

RE: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot

2005-11-07 Thread G.Villarini
http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=3 Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 5:02 PM

Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread Tony Weasler
A modern marketing mistake created this mess. A company started to sell a product that it was incapable of delivering: unlimited network access. Other companies followed suit and assumed that they would never be compelled to make good on their promise. Now, instead of admitting that they were

Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: The elecric company doesn't care what you do with their electricity... The gas company doesn't care what you do with their gas... The water company doesn't care what you do with your water... Not totaly true. You can not resell the service. You can not share your

Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
The worst thing that an ISP or WISP can do is to support these things. The reason, is that if providers create the perception that this can happen and can be controlled, (networks to be open for what ever legal purpose), than there is absolutely no reason that the government should not keep

RE: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread Charles Wu
The elecric company doesn't care what you do with their electricity... The gas company doesn't care what you do with their gas... The water company doesn't care what you do with your water... Why should the ISP care what you do with your connection, as long as it doesn't affect their network?

Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread John Scrivner
So Charles, start yourself a usage based only operation and let us know how that works out for you. Scriv Charles Wu wrote: Electricity, Gas and Water are billed on a usage basis Competitive market pressures aside, why should Internet be any different? -Charles

RE: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread Charles Wu
snip So Charles, start yourself a usage based only operation and let us know how that works out for you. /snip Lol... We all are already - only difference today b/n the ISP the other 3 operations is the fact that the ISP today obfiscates their usage billing in legalese buried deep within the

RE: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot

2005-11-07 Thread Rick Harnish
We have a couple of them in our office waiting to be deployed at tower sites. The web interface is crap, it won't allow you to put in a subnet and default gateway. You have to set it to get a DHCP address to get those key routing numbers inserted. I like the size and the price is right, I guess

Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge

2005-11-07 Thread RickG
Since 1997 when we rolled out the first broadband in the area, I've been saying we'd eventually bill by the bit. I actually did so in 1999 using an Alot box but only for the bandwidth hogs. I still say it will be mainstream one day. In fact, I can see the bandwidth costing more depending on the

Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot

2005-11-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Thanks thats good to know. Since we don't run DHCP anywhere. Based on that, probably only good as a home unit, thats behind a home gateway w/ DHCP. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot

2005-11-07 Thread Blair Davis
A lot of things here that I have seen, some I have not. Some I use already. Thanks for the ideas. However, the main issue is space.. The box that all my gear must fit in at this location is 12x12x6. In that space, I already have a WRAP 2C, an OR-500 and a 5 port switch And while I

RE: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot

2005-11-07 Thread JNA
Rick, I just looked at the pdf manual http://sturgeon.apcc.com/techref.nsf/partnum/990-9234/$FILE/990-9234_EN.pdf #9 shows you how to set a static ip if no DHCP server is available. Thought you might want to know. John Buwa We have a couple of them in our office waiting to be deployed

Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot

2005-11-07 Thread Blair Davis
It will let you set an IP address. You can't set a gateway or subnet mask -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP JNA wrote: Rick, I just looked at the pdf manual http://sturgeon.apcc.com/techref.nsf/partnum/990-9234/$FILE/990-9234_EN.pdf #9 shows you how to set a static ip if no

Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot

2005-11-07 Thread Chuck Profito
Try this, all our towers have this installed, it even pings for an auto reboot, $300 is cheep ! http://www.corpsys.com/store/prodinfo.asp?number=EPCRvariation=aitem=3mitem=20 Chuck Profito CV-ACCESS - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

RE: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot

2005-11-07 Thread JNA
Ah got it. Ok that's stupid, lol. John Buwa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP based Remote Reboot It will let you set an IP