[WISPA] Marlon not awake

2005-11-14 Thread Carl A Jeptha
Hey Marlon, I asked you for the contact information of the person in Ottawa. (damn it is hard to get good help these days) :o You getting so famous it is hard trying to talk to you. Maybe I should make like I am as famous as you. :-P Just trying to get the ball rolling up here in the Frozen

Re: [WISPA] Atheros speed WRAP vs RB532

2005-11-14 Thread Dan Petermann
For the profile, I use RadioMobile and export the path to a text file. I then put the first 2 columns into the second tab on the spreadsheet. Works great. On Nov 13, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Dylan Oliver wrote: Paul, I haven't tried the Spectra yet but am planning some links with the Link

RE: [WISPA] Atheros speed WRAP vs RB532

2005-11-14 Thread Paul Hendry
Just as a rough guide, would it be likely that you could get half the rated throughput on the Orthogon units over 2k through very lite trees? The problem I have is that I haven't been able to complete a site survey but have been told that they had a link during last winter which dropped once

[WISPA] Packet Aggregation

2005-11-14 Thread Paul Hendry
Because a lot of traffic crossing our network is in packets smaller than 1500 bytes I have been playing with Mikrotik's M3P to aggregate the smaller packets together. Throughput wise this seems to work very well and we see a big improvement on the amount of data we can pass over our wireless

Re: [WISPA] New Tower Installation - Check out these towers!

2005-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'd be scared to climb one of those, with the section of the tower weighing less than I do. I wonder how strong they are from the perspective of climbing safety. For example if a fall takes a direction jult to the cross member tied off to? Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed

Re: [WISPA] New Tower Installation - Check out these towers!

2005-11-14 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Not suppose to climb them, I guess. Tom DeReggi wrote: I'd be scared to climb one of those, with the section of the tower weighing less than I do. I wonder how strong they are from the perspective of climbing safety. For example if a fall takes a direction jult to the cross member

Re: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation

2005-11-14 Thread Blair Davis
In my experience, the guys at MikroTik are quite responsive to user requests. Have you asked them about this? -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless, ISP 269-686-8648 Paul Hendry wrote: Because a lot of traffic crossing our network is in packets smaller than 1500 bytes I have been playing

RE: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation

2005-11-14 Thread Paul Hendry
I've posted a couple of times on the forum but no responses. Is there an alternative out there? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: 14 November 2005 23:57 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation In my

[WISPA] 900Mhz Grid vs Yagi

2005-11-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
PacWireless makes a 900Mhz 18 dbi Parabolic grid antenna. M2 makes a 900Mhz 17.5 dbi Yagi antenna. We had found that 900 was very particular to placement, even a few inches in one direction or the other can make big differences in link quality. Has anyone used both antenna types for a

RE: [WISPA] 900Mhz Grid vs Yagi

2005-11-14 Thread Rick Smith
Tom, Check out the newer 15 dbi grid from Pac - it's the same grid as the 2.4 parabolic, but with a 900 mhz horn. It ROCKS in comparison to many other antennas, and I've used 'em all. I'm usin this particular one with Canopy - 12 miles out and -74 through thick trees on the CPE end. 7

RE: [WISPA] Atheros speed WRAP vs RB532

2005-11-14 Thread Rick Harnish
Paul, Send me the coordinates of the link and pictures from antenna height at both ends looking down the path and I can give you a pretty good idea..ok, here is where a disclaimer goes :P Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell

RE: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation

2005-11-14 Thread Rick Harnish
Sure Paul, its called Karlnet, no wait YDI, no wait, Terabeam, no wait, Proxim, yeah that what it is this week, Turbocell on 802.11a Atheros. You can find the information on the www.karlnet.com, nope that's gone now, www.ydi.com, nope that's gone now, www.terabeam.com, oops that just got

RE: [WISPA] Atheros speed WRAP vs RB532

2005-11-14 Thread Paul Hendry
Will do. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: 15 November 2005 02:13 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Atheros speed WRAP vs RB532 Paul, Send me the coordinates of the link and pictures from antenna height at

RE: [WISPA] Packet Aggregation

2005-11-14 Thread Paul Hendry
I know that Packeteer does it but it's a bit on the expensive side. I'm surprised there isn't a FreeBSD or Linux package out there that does it :( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: 15 November 2005 02:25 To: 'WISPA General

[WISPA] Insurance / Service Plan Offerings

2005-11-14 Thread JohnnyO
Title: Insurance / Service Plan Offerings We're coming into our 3rd year of operation soon. I am curious how others are doing combat against the replacement / repair / service call costs associated with having to replace CPE end equipment. I was thinking about offering a service plan like

Re: [WISPA] Insurance / Service Plan Offerings

2005-11-14 Thread George
JohnnyO wrote: We're coming into our 3rd year of operation soon. I am curious how others are doing combat against the replacement / repair / service call costs associated with having to replace CPE end equipment. I was thinking about offering a service plan like DirecTV / Cellular Companies

Re: [WISPA] Insurance / Service Plan Offerings

2005-11-14 Thread Travis Johnson
Title: Insurance / Service Plan Offerings Hi, We retain ownership of the CPE, so when it goes bad, we replace it free of charge. If they are out of contract, we have them sign a new 12 month contract and they get it for free. Travis Microserv JohnnyO wrote: We're coming into

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz Grid vs Yagi

2005-11-14 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I just looked on Pac Wireless' website, as well as Wisp-router and I don't see the 900mhz grid. Do you have a part number or direct link? Travis Microserv Rick Smith wrote: Tom, Check out the newer 15 dbi grid from Pac - it's the same grid as the 2.4 parabolic, but with a 900 mhz

RE: [WISPA] Insurance / Service Plan Offerings

2005-11-14 Thread JohnnyO
George - that may work in your neck of the woods and I have been doing the same since day 1. This past year - we replaced over $8,000 worth of CPEs - that is almost a full months revenue for us Mind you - we dealt with hurricanes and severe lightning - but - - - we can no longer as a company

Re: [WISPA] Insurance / Service Plan Offerings

2005-11-14 Thread A. Huppenthal
I'm curious about this too.. Are you using off-the-shelf stuff? Can you sell an insurance policy to customers to offset the replacement costs? JohnnyO wrote: George - that may work in your neck of the woods and I have been doing the same since day 1. This past year - we replaced over $8,000

Re: [WISPA] Insurance / Service Plan Offerings

2005-11-14 Thread Blair Davis
What George wrote. It can be annoying to replace equipment, but, the hassle of trying to talk the customer into replacing it is just not worth it. With 200 subs, I am replacing an average of 1 radio a month. Not too bad at all -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648

RE: [WISPA] Insurance / Service Plan Offerings

2005-11-14 Thread JohnnyO
That is what the insurance plan would prevent - They will have a choice to opt out - but if they do - they will be responsible for the cost of a new CPE. If it were only 1 CPE a month - I wouldn't sweat it - but 6 months out of the year - it's almost 8 per month ! I was thinking charging

Re: [WISPA] Insurance / Service Plan Offerings

2005-11-14 Thread George
I feel for ya JohhnyO, seriously. I've changed out every Smart bridge I ever installed except two and dittto for tranzeos. The EZ Bridges were great for a while, but going past 2 years now with them and we're starting to replace them as well. I'm not sure how many rados I've replaced this

Re: [WISPA] Insurance / Service Plan Offerings

2005-11-14 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
So your subs own the CPE? Brian JohnnyO wrote: That is what the insurance plan would prevent - They will have a choice to "opt out" - but if they do - they will be responsible for the "cost" of a new CPE. If it were only 1 CPE a month - I wouldn't sweat it - but 6 months out of the

Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz Grid vs Yagi

2005-11-14 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Whats the cost comparison on these three? Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I just looked on Pac Wireless' website, as well as Wisp-router and I don't see the 900mhz grid. Do you have a part number or direct link? Travis Microserv Rick Smith wrote: Tom, Check out the newer 15 dbi grid from Pac

RE: [WISPA] Insurance / Service Plan Offerings

2005-11-14 Thread Cliff
Title: Insurance / Service Plan Offerings We also retain ownership to the CPE and replace at our cost when not due to customer misuse or abuse (which has happened and I charged for the replacement). Also, all of my service contracts AUTO-RENEW. Therefore, if I do not receive a cancel

RE: [WISPA] Insurance / Service Plan Offerings

2005-11-14 Thread Rick Smith
Title: Insurance / Service Plan Offerings Hrmm, what about getting subs to pay for the installation cost for the replacement trip ? Bill 'em $75 or so for the service call to replace it - that'd go somewhere toward paying some of the CPE off. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [WISPA] 900Mhz Grid vs Yagi

2005-11-14 Thread Rick Smith
http://www.pacwireless.com/products/GD9-15_datasheet.pdf I paid about $75 through CTI... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz Grid

Re: [WISPA] Insurance / Service Plan Offerings

2005-11-14 Thread A. Huppenthal
i like that idea. have the contract read that replacement of the equipment for whatever reason incurs a minimum trip charge of $75 or buy insurance @ $4 a month. Peter R. wrote: The DISH network actually charges for replacement. I had a DVR go bad and it cost me $50 for replacement. Ain't