Re: [WISPA] verizon pension

2005-12-07 Thread Peter R.
Actually, VZ is just hitting management: Late Monday the company said it plans to freeze its guaranteed pension plan for 50,000 of its managers, a move that could save the telecommunications giant $3 billion during the next decade. The company said it would expand its own contributions to

Re: [WISPA] How to Authenticate/Protect (WasEthernetbasedauthentication)

2005-12-07 Thread John Thomas
Mac Dearman wrote: Well, I agree to a point with both of you (Nunweiler Marlon)- - you know I am different - - kinda like rocky roads ice cream, just sweeter :-) I don't like DHCP for the client as its just too easy and requires no interaction with the client - EVER! I also dont like

Re: [WISPA] verizon pension

2005-12-07 Thread Frank Muto
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051206/bs_nm/telecoms_verizon_retirement_dc NEW YORK (Reuters) - Verizon Communications (NYSE:VZ - news), the second-biggest U.S. telecoms firm, said on Monday it was restructuring retirement benefits for 50,000 managers in a bid to save $3 billion over the next 10

Re: [WISPA] How to Authenticate/Protect (WasEthernetbasedauthentication)

2005-12-07 Thread Blair Davis
We do it a bit differently We run a routed network with static, private IP's. Each tower is assigned a private IP subnet. Clients are assigned a private, static IP in the subnet of the tower they connect to. MikroTiks at my T1's control NAT rules that enable and disable individual

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-12-07 Thread Blair Davis
Anyone heard anything more about these 900MHz mini-PCI cards from Ubiquiti? Their web site doesn't seem to mention them IMHO, their web site is useless -- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: OK, talking about all of the ways that Trango has to fine tune the radios has me

RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-12-07 Thread Eje Gustafsson
They just finished their 6th prototype and found out some issues with the current Atheros chipsets in regards to adjustable frequency selection. They are looking at making a new prototype with the latest chipset. The cards where not estimated to be available and ready until around Jan/Feb and more

Re: [WISPA] How to Authenticate/Protect(WasEthernetbasedauthentication)

2005-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
The idea, for me is that by the time a company gets to the point that they need to route they'll either know what they are doing. And/or they'll have someone on staff just to handle that issue. The other problem I ran into back when was a shortage of ip addys. And routing to every customer

Re: [WISPA] How to Authenticate/Protect(WasEthernetbasedauthentication)

2005-12-07 Thread Scott Reed
How were you looking at routing to use 3 for 1?  I have never setup routing that way and would like to be sure I don't.  I am running fully routed from the get-go, with 3 internal routers and a 4th going in Friday.  Actually 2 MTs as router only and 2 that are routing APs. Scott Reed

Re: [WISPA] How toAuthenticate/Protect(WasEthernetbasedauthentication)

2005-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I'm no expert so you guys feel free to correct me as needed. The smallest subnet needs 4 ip addys to work. Even if it's three you get the idea. Still a huge waste of a very limited and harder to get all the time resource. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)

Re: [WISPA] How toAuthenticate/Protect(WasEthernetbasedauthentication)

2005-12-07 Thread Scott Reed
PPPoE on a SOHO Router, private IPs for the devices. But I don't think you have to use PPPoE to do the /32 address to force the end-device to route everything.   Need a router guru to answer that. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and

Re: [WISPA]How to Authenticate/Protect (WasEthernetbasedauthentication)

2005-12-07 Thread Ron Wallace
Blair, Could we get together sometime. I like this architecture. I am at a point, ready to expand, that this is where I need to go. I'm over near Jackson. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson St. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517) 547-8410 Mobile: (517) 605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA]How to Authenticate/Protect (WasEthernetbasedauthentication)

2005-12-07 Thread Blair Davis
Sure. Call me, or reply offlist. Also, as I see no overlap of our service areas, would you like to link directly to each other? Maybe something like If you are looking for coverage in the Jackson area, try www.newgenet.net on my site and If you need service in Allegan County, try

Re: [WISPA] How to Authenticate/Protect(WasEthernetbasedauthentication)

2005-12-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
There are some benefits to bridging apposed to routing. So learn when routing or bridging is best for you. Generally you do not want to accept OSPF from a client, as it compromises the integrity of OSPF. (passing bad OSPF data). So routes then get added at the AP/cell router. The problem

RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-12-07 Thread Ron Wallace
Thanks for the heads-up Eje. Ron Wallace Original message Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:50:31 -0600 From: Eje Gustafsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini- PCICard To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org They

Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation

2005-12-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Sascha, Although I agree with you, Bell South's actions do not condone the action of the city. New Orleans could easilly instead announce a grant offer or loan program for small business ISPs, to rebuild New Orlean's communications systems. They could understand the problem with having

Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation

2005-12-07 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
We'd come out ahead, thats for sure. Rick Smith wrote: How bout nuking N.O. and starting somewhere else ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

[WISPA] Good Service from our Distributors

2005-12-07 Thread Ron Wallace
To All, I would like to relate an experience to you all. I have had some bad experiences with the original smartbridges equipment that I purchased from Electro-Comm, I have had some failures and RMA'd them all back to Electro-Comm. Today I received a credit memo from them, they are replacing

Re: [WISPA]How to Authenticate/Protect (WasEthernetbasedauthentication)

2005-12-07 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Why don't you meet in the middle at my house. :) Ron Wallace wrote: Blair, Could we get together sometime. I like this architecture. I am at a point, ready to expand, that this is where I need to go. I'm over near Jackson. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson St. Addison, MI 49220

Re: [WISPA] Good Service from our Distributors

2005-12-07 Thread Blair Davis
I have to agree that they are a good outfit. Been dealing with them for years Trouble free!! Ron Wallace wrote: To All, I would like to relate an experience to you all. I have had some bad experiences with the original smartbridges equipment that I purchased from Electro-Comm, I

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Networks Reveals Prototype902-928MHzMini-PCICard

2005-12-07 Thread Pete Davis. NoDial.net
With all of the current 900mhz AP's and CPE out there currently a closed/proprietary system (not an 802.x open standard) for the handshaking, security, ack/nack, etc, I am curious if/how Mikrotik, StarOS, Windows, or whoever will talk to them. Has all of that programming been worked out? They

Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation

2005-12-07 Thread Joe Laura
Nuke New Orleans? I dont get it. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:04 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation How

RE: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation

2005-12-07 Thread Rick Smith
No offense, but wipe it off the face of the earth. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation Nuke New Orleans? I

Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation

2005-12-07 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Many of us from far away have watched the debacle in New Oleans with a morbid fascination. Many find themselves frustrated with the corruption, incompetence, and dirty politics that have marked the aftermath of both hurricanes to pass through the area this summer. Thus, many people find

[WISPA] OFFLIST

2005-12-07 Thread John Scrivner
Rick, This comment from you causes nothing but ill will and is uncalled for. I want you to apologize on the list right now and mean it. Scriv Rick Smith wrote: No offense, but wipe it off the face of the earth. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST - OK I messed up

2005-12-07 Thread John Scrivner
I had a long day. This was intended to genuinely be off list. The truth is though that I do feel Rick owes this list an apology. I was hoping to not make the request for such public though. For that I am sorry to Rick and this list for making this a public issue for discussion. I still hope we