Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE

2005-12-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
We use Basin Insurance in Moses Lake Wa. Gary Troutman has been GREAT. And he's really done a lot of research into my industry. He's got me on some very cool insurance programs. Good reasonable stuff. His number is: 509.765.4785 Marlon (509) 982-2181

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE

2005-12-12 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Would he give WISPA a good rate? Anyone interested could get quotes and maybe he could cut us a break? I want this trade association to get some members services so people have a reason to join. With added services comes members and money. With members and money comes pull at the FCC

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE

2005-12-12 Thread Peter R.
Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Would he give WISPA a good rate? Anyone interested could get quotes and maybe he could cut us a break? I want this trade association to get some members services so people have a reason to join. With added services comes members and money. With members and money

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE

2005-12-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
He's going to check on what kind of group programs then can come up with for us. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE

2005-12-12 Thread A. Huppenthal
hear hear. I totally agree with you. I have very little experience with Insurance, but mine is a million dollar policy we use for towers and other reasons. Its about $100 a month. I'm sure there's a specialized insurance company that likely does this. Anyone have a contact at American Towers?

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE

2005-12-12 Thread A. Huppenthal
I think WISPA has expressed its disinterest in a 'buying club'. However, if members on this list want to organize a 'buying club' - I'm all for it. Its clearly one of the reasons you will get your ass kicked by the telco and cable company - they have buying power and can get what you want and

Re: [WISPA] USF fund issues

2005-12-12 Thread Peter R.
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I shot him a note this am. thanks! Marlon Kris may be a little behind. He was in Tampa for the ISP Expo Saturday. BTW, Dustin at RSENG / TransmitRF presented some excellent information on wireless. Expo Round-up here:

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2005-12-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
WISPA's intrepid leader back before there was a WISPA. grin marlon attachment: P1010644.JPG -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE - buying club

2005-12-12 Thread A. Huppenthal
Someone asked a while ago about Canopy prices. The last post I did was on 900 Mhz - okay we all don't live in the Eastern US or other high-treed areas. Of course, if you are spending an average of 1 hour a month screwing around with each subscriber you aren't going to have a successful WISP

Re: [WISPA] Emailing: P1010641.JPG

2005-12-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
He's at Cisco. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE - buying club

2005-12-12 Thread A. Huppenthal
Well, I tend to agree. Moto builds cable modems, and other competitive products. We aren't going to change Moto's pricing policy, product strategy, or anything else - well, unless we all work together. I see 500 packs broken all the time - so that's the idea - a bunch of us put in 1/20th of

Re: [WISPA] buying club meeting

2005-12-12 Thread A. Huppenthal
Good ideas. Partnering with a successful existing ISPCON would be great. I'm not close to Baltimore, so it would be my first choice. :-) I didn't know there was a WISP buying club. That would be a wonderful thing. Do you mean like Price Club or somesuch? Wow, now if they'd carry the end-user

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE - buying club

2005-12-12 Thread Blair Davis
I just wish people would quit quoting the Q100 or Q500 price to compare CPE equipment costs. Quote the Q1 cost. We all know that one can do better in larger quantity. But most of us don't buy in Q100 or Q500. Most of us do good to buy Q5 or Q10. The high CPE cost is what keeps me from even

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE - buying club

2005-12-12 Thread A. Huppenthal
'people' is me. note: posting here showed $270 quantity one Moto SM w/power supply on ebay for example. Its just a thought. I've bought dozens and dozens of Moto SM radios near $260 each over the past 12 months all at 5s and 10s quantity. So it can be done, just wished it would be a bit

Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250 Double Radius has 25 pack for : $8,500.00 double to 50 pack and it 17k Will you please tell me who the Canopy major supplier is so I can avoid at all costs. The 100 pack is

Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread A. Huppenthal
I'm not a supplier, nor do I want to be one to the list, nor do I want to research on behalf of the list. google: motorola canopy SM bulk 100 pack. I picked the first couple of hits that showed prices.. That's it. I don't do business with Double Radius, so I wouldn't know. Brian

Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread A. Huppenthal
check if you are comparing apples to apples. 900 Mhz units are much more expensive. Have fun, whatever you decide. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: 432631 Bulk Pack 50 900 MHz Subscriber Modules BP9000SM-50 $26,250

Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Yes, I believe I was looking at all 900 products. If a 100 pack is 295, a 500 pack (buying group) might just be affordable for ma and pa WISP. A. Huppenthal wrote: check if you are comparing apples to apples. 900 Mhz units are much more expensive. Have fun, whatever you decide.

Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread A. Huppenthal
we're talking 900 mhz, right? I don't use Moto 2.4 or 900 mhz stuff. never tried 2.4 and the 900 mhz didn't work for me - but it was a press. some 15 miles with NLOS so.. it could have been a path too challanging even for 900 mhz. $295 for a 900 mhz radios is very good. You still have to add

Re: [WISPA] Emailing: IMG_0823.JPG

2005-12-12 Thread Bob Moldashel
You're a dead man Marlon.. I'm calling the boys in Brooklyn right now.! :-P -B- Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I'm cleaning some stuff up on the puter. Found a few pics from the 2004 FCC trip. For those that have never seen him, the guy in the white shirt is our

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE

2005-12-12 Thread Dylan Oliver
I'm now talking to Jamie Davis of a NASBA (Association of System Builders) insurance program. He's been helpful so far, and I've suggested they facilitate the insurance process for WISPs. I don't know what they've got yet, but check them out: Jamie Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1908 South el Camino

Re: [WISPA] Emailing: IMG_0823.JPG

2005-12-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Who, ME?? Geeze, and I left Spokane so that I didn't have to pack heat anymore! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE

2005-12-12 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I'll bet we could get coverage for the liability, but the riders for gear might be another thing. If one company handles a ton of WISPs, that is a lot of lightning pay outs... Dylan Oliver wrote: I'm now talking to Jamie Davis of a NASBA (Association of System Builders) insurance program.

RE: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread G.Villarini
$100 for a 900 antenna? Yikes man were are buying? I buy 11 db yagis for around $40 , 15 db for $60 and 17db for $80 Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread A. Huppenthal
great prices! G.Villarini wrote: $100 for a 900 antenna? Yikes man were are buying? I buy 11 db yagis for around $40 , 15 db for $60 and 17db for $80 Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: WAS [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread George
Plus the piggy or cable and connectors. George G.Villarini wrote: $100 for a 900 antenna? Yikes man were are buying? I buy 11 db yagis for around $40 , 15 db for $60 and 17db for $80 Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466

Re: [WISPA] Re: [wisp] Another reason to love the Barracuda...

2005-12-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
See inline... ly. But no email server worth it's salt should dump it's spool and put out an undeliverable bounce in that amount of time. I disagree. Your view is old school, and todays a new world. The trend is that people want to know when their messages are not successfully delivered to

RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread G.Villarini
Hey Charles ... long time no see ... any winog on 2006 ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Travis Johnson
And, the other issue is the purchase will be made in the group name, so how do you handle warranty issues? Travis Microserv Charles Wu wrote: snip You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up eating the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a

Re: [WISPA] Intro/Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim/Turbocell

2005-12-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'd like to add, that US manufacturers are required by law to offer replacement parts for their products for a minimum of 10 years. Maybe it also applies to software? Its also possible that even through a bankruptcy, the liabilty to maintain that support may have been assumed when buying the

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I have never done a group buy, but this is how I would approach it. First step. Principal Members only. You want a deal, fork over 200 some bucks and support the industry. Second step. Find 10 people who want ten units. (500 if possible, but prolly 100 pack to start) Third step. Go to

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Well, I'm not a Canopy user, but am close to making the leap. (would have done it long time ago if gear was a reasonable price) Whoever buys the gear. Group name or Joe Blow. Attention Canopy users how are warranty issues handled? If I buy gear on ebay can I send it into Moto for

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
Charles, I fully second your post. Well said. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Basically what I propose (in a nutshell) is going to a the distrobuters and saying this. I have ten or twenty or whatever WISPs and we all want to buy ten units of *insert brand here* and have them all shipped to different addresses and charged to different accounts. What are you willing to

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, There are so many risks that _someone_ is going to have to assume. Example: If I say put me down for 20 units and here's my credit card. You place the order with the distributor, and I get my items. However, either the distributor will put each order in different names (thus, once the

Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices

2005-12-12 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I'll make some calls tomorrow and see what the distributors say. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, There are so many risks that _someone_ is going to have to assume. Example: If I say put me down for 20 units and here's my credit card. You place the order with the distributor, and I get my items.