RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread G.Villarini
John , Youre best and cheap option here is a 38 ghz lic. Backhaul. For around $1000 or less you can buy the whole DS3 link with antennas, youll need to buy a pair of DS3 to Ethernet converters if you want Ethernet (around $1500 or less for the pair). The license lease is around $500 anually

RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Ditto! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Villarini Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:36 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? John , Youre best and cheap option here is a 38 ghz lic. Backhaul. For around $1000

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Travis Johnson
No, we get full speed on this link. 44.5mbps in each direction at the same time using Mikrotik to test. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Travis, That is the one I was referring to (when I reference YDI ElinkII or was it CX) before it evolved to the current product line. Are you getting

RE: [WISPA] Re: BPL Announcement in Texas

2005-12-20 Thread Rick Schlander
Will do. Rick Schlander Owner - Sr. Network Engineer email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.mrvnet.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:00 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Re: BPL

Re: [WISPA] NTIA - Gallagher leaving

2005-12-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Interesting. Is that good or bad? Was he on our side of the fence or theirs? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:41

RE: [WISPA] Network Monitoring you need to see..

2005-12-20 Thread Richard Strittmatter
We had looked at this... It looks great, but everything is encoded php.. no customization.. We do a bunch of customization to our stuff. Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:31 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Anytime the budget allows it I run wires. Wireless is great but there's no guarantee of service as it's unlicensed. Yes we can do a very good job by buying good gear and being smart about the design etc. But. Also, anytime you can use wires you free up valuable spectrum for ptmp

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Travis Johnson
Search on ebay for 38ghz. There are quite a few Pcom complete systems for $600-$800 with antennas. Then you need a DS3 to ethernet converter (like mentioned). Those are $800 for each side. Then you have to have a ROCK SOLID mounting point on each side. The beamwidth on 38ghz with 2ft dishes is

RE: [WISPA] Network Monitoring you need to see..

2005-12-20 Thread Jeff Sullivan
So, what is the app you are using? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Strittmatter Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Network Monitoring you need to see.. We had looked at

RE: [WISPA] Network Monitoring you need to see..

2005-12-20 Thread Richard Strittmatter
Nagios/Cacti / custom snmp / mikrotik-ssh combo... Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Network Monitoring you need to see.. So,

Re: [WISPA] Re: [WISPA FCC] USF fund issues

2005-12-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Out here the telco gets $109 per month per pots line in usf funds. I think that's why they require a pots line in order to have dsl service. Without the pots line subsidy they could never afford to offer their $30 dsl service free install and all! USF should either go away or be made fair

Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices

2005-12-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Not true. We have a couple of different lines. They were hard to get, we actually get run under a program for farmers, but we have them. Believe me though, I can't wait till I get rid of them too though! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Dylan Oliver
On 12/20/05, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A.OK.I've watch for them some but never seen any actually show up. I see you're going for one now! Good luck bidding. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices

2005-12-20 Thread Travis Johnson
The biggest problem is a bank will have a hard time allowing you to continue to grow. With leasing companies, I can just continue to use a new company each time, then not a single company takes all the risk. At a certain point, the bank will just say no, and then you will be stuck. :( Travis

Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices

2005-12-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
H. Haven't run into that yet. As long as we're showing growth their working with us. Not as well as I'd like but that's not always bad either. We're smaller than we could have been, but we're also financially stable. Nothing at all wrong with that. As broadband prices keep falling

RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Jason Lee
Hello John, please let me know if I can help you in any way. You can visit our website for product information: www.plaintree.com -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 20, 2005 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: Jason Lee

RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
60ghz Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good

[WISPA] Line of Credit was:Canopy buying group prices

2005-12-20 Thread John Scrivner
Point of Order here guys: Not to pick on anyone here, just please note this. When a subject of a thread has significantly changed from its original content the thread name should be changed accordingly. I attempted this earlier by changing the thread name to Line of Credit as that was the

Re: [WISPA] Re: [WISPA FCC] USF fund issues

2005-12-20 Thread Blair Davis
Marlon, Where can one find out what the telco gets in usf funding? I'd like to know what the rate is around here... Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Out here the telco gets $109 per month per pots line in usf funds. I think that's why they require a pots line in order to have dsl

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
This help? http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bssbrftog=1fstype=1from=R10satitle=38+ghzsacat=-1%26catref%3DC6bs=Searchsargn=-1%26saslc%3D2sadis=200fpos=ZIP%2FPostalftrt=1ftrv=1saprclo=saprchi=fsop=1fsoo=1 I ebayed 38 ghz Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: A. OK. I've

[WISPA] skypilot?

2005-12-20 Thread Mario Pommier
Gentlemen, is anyone using this product? looks good on paper, doesn't it? Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by Webjogger's AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

[WISPA] older CPE

2005-12-20 Thread Travis Johnson
Marlon, We have been doing wireless since 1997. Up until about a year ago, we still had gear running that was installed in 1999. The logical plan is we move the older, slower gear to the more remote areas, and upgrade the core system as needed. However, we started installing Trango 5.8ghz

Re: [WISPA] skypilot?

2005-12-20 Thread Jory Privett
I use it Jory Privett WCCS 940.683.5797 - Original Message - From: Mario Pommier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 12:36 PM Subject: [WISPA] skypilot? Gentlemen, is anyone using this product? looks good on paper,

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Bob Moldashel
He can do a Proxim GigaLink for $10K. Fiber interface, 1.25Gb. -B- Tom DeReggi wrote: For around $1000 a month I think you can get a 1 gbps wireless link from Gigabeam, that would work for that distance I think. Atlas has been working great for us, using 5.3 for that short distance, you

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Who can do one for $10K? However, isn't Proxim's gear 60 Ghz, right? There is a big difference between the capabilties of 60Ghz vs 70Ghz of Gigabeam. 60Ghz is effected much larger by Oxygen absorbion. so... 60Ghz- reliable to half mile. 70Ghz - reliable to 2.5 miles. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL

Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices

2005-12-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Travis, That is an interesting point. You are full of all sorts of clever ideas. But how do you get past the, need to be in business for two years to get financing, problem? How do you manage that on the books? Doesn't it cost you more than you are saving with the Lease terms? For a while

Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices

2005-12-20 Thread Travis Johnson
Tom, Like many on this list, we started out using personal credit cards. And in the beginning, we did make the subs pay for the equipment. However, we've been in business since 1995 and doing wireless since 1997. Also, you have to be willing to sign a personal guarantee on the leases, at

Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices NOW Line of Credit.

2005-12-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Tom and Travis. If it's not too much trouble, why don't you rename the thread like Scriv requested. When I do a search for line of credit in 6 months on the archive, I won't remember to look throught all the canopy threads too. :) Travis Johnson wrote: Tom, Like many on this list, we

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Bob Moldashel
Tom DeReggi wrote: Who can do one for $10K? However, isn't Proxim's gear 60 Ghz, right? There is a big difference between the capabilties of 60Ghz vs 70Ghz of Gigabeam. 60Ghz is effected much larger by Oxygen absorbion. so... 60Ghz- reliable to half mile. 70Ghz - reliable to 2.5 miles. Tom

Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices NOW Line of Credit.

2005-12-20 Thread Dylan Oliver
On 12/20/05, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Tom and Travis.If it's not too much trouble, why don't you rename the thread like Scriv requested.When I do a search for line of credit in 6months on the archive, I won't remember to look throught all the canopythreads too.:)Brian. If it's not

Re: [WISPA] Canopy buying group prices NOW Line of Credit. NOW title of threads

2005-12-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Dude, it was not too much to ask. Yet people go along posting in off topic threads. To me, it seems like a good idea to title threads to specific topics. If you don't like it, whatever. My 2 cents. Brian Dylan Oliver wrote: On 12/20/05, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Tom and

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
I would second that- you can usually find good quality ( stratex for example ) used backhauls on ebay for around a few grand. - Jeff On Dec 20, 2005, at 3:35 AM, G.Villarini wrote: John , Youre best and cheap option here is a 38 ghz lic. Backhaul. For around $1000 or less you can buy

[WISPA] DS3 to Ethernet Converters

2005-12-20 Thread John Scrivner
I just ordered 2 of those PCOM links. I will report how they do for us. I need some DS3 to Ethernet Converters. What is my best source on these? Thanks, Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

RE: [WISPA] DS3 to Ethernet Converters

2005-12-20 Thread G.Villarini
Here are some 6 ports units http://cgi.ebay.com/Net-To-Net-DNE4500-6DC-Ethernet-to-DS3-T3-Converter_W0QQ itemZ5837756909QQcategoryZ86726QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.767.7466 -Original

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring you need to see..

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Price
Hybodus isn't very flexible or customizable.. I have used it but I much prefer our nagios+cacti combo. Mark Rick Smith wrote: Looks great from the demo, I need a new NOC monitor...so I was lookin around. http://www.hybodus.com/index.php -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org