[WISPA] Virtual AP

2005-12-27 Thread Pete Davis
Mikrotik APs have the capability to create a Virtual AP with a secondary SSID, but I haven't found much documentation about it. Has anyone used this feature much? I could see this being useful during a transitional period, while you are changing the SSID, so you can access the CPE with the

Re: [WISPA] Virtual AP

2005-12-27 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, John Scrivner wrote: associate and use the AP. One nice feature is the ability to set different AP features for each SSID. For instance you can have different WEP or other security settings for each virtual AP. Nice feature. Yes, this is a nice feature. MT also allows

RE: [WISPA] Virtual AP

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Smith
actually, I was kidding about the competitor thing, wanted to see if it'd start a fire. It's something I'd thought of, but you can't route based on Virtual AP SSID Having an invididual hotspot page per virtual SSID would be cool, on a wholesale level... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WISPA] Virtual AP

2005-12-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I do that too, 3 competitors have towers all within mile of each other, I put their ssid in my AP but turn the broadcast off, their clients associate to me and I deny all their access so when they try to hook up customers it looks like their connected but they cant figure out why it

[WISPA] dual band

2005-12-27 Thread danlist
I'm looking for a dual band high gain panel antenna (ie: 2.4ghz and 5ghz 19db+) - does such a beast exist? Thanks Dan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.7/214 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- WISPA Wireless

Re: [WISPA] dual band

2005-12-27 Thread Aubrey Wells
highest gain i've seen on dual-band is the superpass ones. http://www.superpass.com/DUAL-GJ.html --- Aubrey Wells AirInfinite [EMAIL PROTECTED] o: (404) 601.1407 f: (404) 601.1408 c: (770) 356.9767 robert maier wrote: I've only heard of dual polorized, but could be wrong, we order those

[WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-27 Thread danlist
Although the service is not available yet in my area, it is getting close and reports are it could be available in 2006 - check out this pricing - the 15Mbps for $49.95 a month seems like a really good deal and would be tough to beat, currently I am using Nstream/MT which gives me about 20Mbps to

RE: [WISPA] dual band

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Smith
They're not really dual they're either/or. One panel to do BOTH would be awesome, but for now nothing of the sort exists, save for the dual-pol dishes for use with orthogon, etc... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aubrey Wells Sent:

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Seriously, how much does a sub use anyway? If you keep control over p2p, how much are they really going to take anyway? Anyone got numbers? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although the service is not available yet in my area, it is getting close and reports are it could be available in 2006 -

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
It is reasons like this that I am a firm believer in contracts! -B- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although the service is not available yet in my area, it is getting close and reports are it could be available in 2006 - check out this pricing - the 15Mbps for $49.95 a month seems like a really

RE: [WISPA] dual band

2005-12-27 Thread danlist
Looks like I may have to use a dual POL dish (pacwireless makes on) basically I'm looking for redundancy, ie: using 2 rb532 so if 1 fails the other will still work, but only want 1 antenna as pricing is costly on this tower Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Virtual AP

2005-12-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
I have to agree with John. I can't see the benefit of resorting to those type of poor neighbor policies. First off, I'd be embaressed to admit it openly on the list. Second you are borderlining on legality. You just provided evidence that you purposely attempt to degrade another businesses

RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Smith
And that's why having them sealed into a contract like Bob believes in protects you :) Won't be long before YOU can get that feed (maybe from another ISP) as well and start feeding it into wireless shtuff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [WISPA] dual band

2005-12-27 Thread danlist
Currently I am running separate antennas/radio's/systems on my backhauls (old karlnet gear) and the new MT/rb532/nstream stuff but I'm looking to find the best solution :-) How often do the feedhorns die? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
Don't try and beat it, because you can't, based on bandwdith. The saviour is nobody needs 15mbps when they are only using 15kbps now. Offer things that are more useful to the clients than jsut bandwdith, that has zero value since its never going to be used any way. You may want to compete on

Re: [WISPA] dual band

2005-12-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently I am running separate antennas/radio's/systems on my backhauls (old karlnet gear) and the new MT/rb532/nstream stuff but I'm looking to find the best solution :-) How often do the feedhorns die? Well...not to often. I have changed maybe 8 in my whole

Re: [WISPA] Virtual AP

2005-12-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
I don't know...I think its kind of a cute idea! :-) OK...But as a board member I cannot condone such business tactics. Play fair now. As you were.. -B- Tom DeReggi wrote: I have to agree with John. I can't see the benefit of resorting to those type of poor neighbor policies.

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah but what about the new customer who is comparing FIOS to what I offer? FIOS will have tv and voip ( we do voip now but no tv ) Times are a changing and verizon is putting flyers on everything around boston, ma to promote FIOS, like pizza box's, dry cleaning slips

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
Bob made a good point regarding contracts. Use the you can serve them today, to your advantage, and lock them in. Charge install fees because you can, so yoour gear is paid for by the time FIOS does come, and you are in the position to be your most competitive. My view is that it is a time

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Travis Johnson
I have been saying for YEARS on these lists that you can NOT compete on price... you have to compete on service and customer support. Period. We currently charge $10 per month more than CableOne. They are selling an up to 3meg connection for $29.95. I currently sell a 512k connection for $40

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Tom DeReggi wrote: Bob made a good point regarding contracts. Use the you can serve them today, to your advantage, and lock them in. Charge install fees because you can, so yoour gear is paid for by the time FIOS does come, and you are in the position to be your most competitive. My view is

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Travis Johnson wrote: I have been saying for YEARS on these lists that you can NOT compete on price... you have to compete on service and customer support. Period. We currently charge $10 per month more than CableOne. They are selling an up to 3meg connection for $29.95. I currently sell a

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Travis Johnson
LOL. Because I still enjoy coming to work each day and I'm making a good living... and I get to do what I want from replacing bad radios on top of 9,000ft mountains to changing out light bulbs (literally)... ;) Of course, there are days that aren't so good Christmas Eve I had to

Re: [WISPA] Virtual AP

2005-12-27 Thread John Thomas
Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should John Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I do that too, 3 competitors have towers all within ΒΌ mile of each other, I put their ssid in my AP but turn the broadcast off, their clients associate to me and I deny all their access so when they

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread John Thomas
And, when they have a problem and the jerk at Verizon support doesn't fix it. There is some value in being able to talk to the owner of a business. There are prople that don't see it I worked for a roofing company, they moved about 8-10 million dollars a year. The owner of the

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread John Scrivner
I am not going to debate what the ultimate broadband system architecture is too long because there really is no perfect solution. There are way too many ways of doing things for us to debate it too much. I used to be in the Cable Television industry. In my 10 years in that business I saw

Re: [WISPA] Virtual AP

2005-12-27 Thread Pete Davis - NoDial.net
If you have a competitor on a nearby tower who is uncooperative with you on channel coordination or whatever, I could see this as a way to goof with your competitor, by having his clients associate with you instead, and flood their technical support lines with calls. Having the virtual AP only