Bob, I hear what you're saying and have been through the figures a few times
and even tried turning the power of the radio cards down to 1dB output
(still unable to run both links simultaneously) but this doesn't explain why
others are able to use the same radio cards with similar antennas with
Because youre a top bloke ;) I've been trying to track down some narrow
bandwidth 5.8GHz band pass filters for some time. Any ideas on where to get
some?
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Canopy isnt economic viable? Hmmm you can buy SM's @ $250 or less... and
now the SM lite is out around $175. Its a tough call not to use Canopy.
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Really?? What models? We only use 5.8GHz and when we looked at Canopy in the
past they where expensive and had limited throughput.
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What's your number Brian? (Thanks Marlon)
Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
*Vonage: 650.641.1243
* Goes directly to v-mail and immediately
e-mails me with a number and wave file.
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From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Paul,
You may have a bad feed horn or you may have a bad radio. I would
consider both before jumping off a bridge here..
Tell Radiowaves about your issue and see if you can send the feedhorns
back for testing. They come right out and may be a quick test to see
whats up.
-B-
Paul
Charles Wu wrote:
Just a thought here
Is more or less regulation on facilities based providers a good or bad
thing for WISPs (who are also facilities based providers)
Keep in mind, supporting regulation for SBC / Comcast / whoever sets
the precedent for regulation of our internal networks
Do some shopping and you can buy SM's for about $250 or less... start at
ebay, The new SM lite has a MRSP of $200 on 25 packs, usually you can get a
17 - 20 % discount from most Distributors.
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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787.273.4143
What throughput do you get on these things?
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Sent: 18 January 2006 14:50
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Multiple Radios on Single antenna
Do some shopping and you can buy SM's for
For those interested in this report.
If you find out how much it is let me know. I may want to buy a copy too.
laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)
We have Advantage APs , so we get 14 Mbps out of the System
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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787.273.4143
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Sent: Wednesday, January 18,
Not so sure it's that simple. I have 2 separate setups that I'm seeing this
problem with so I doubt it's 4 feed horns or radios gone bad at the same
time. We're in the UK and unfortunately the RadioWaves support isn't quite
as good here as it obviously is over there but I'll give em a go.
Hi All,
I suggest that WISPA support this proposal. Naturally only those who are
members will count when it comes time to decide to support this or not, but
I think ideas and comments from everyone would be welcome and a good idea.
In a nut shell, you all know we've already been working
Are you using advanced sm's too?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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Nop, just regular sm's
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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787.273.4143
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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:07 PM
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Title: New low cost options from Motorola
How many CPE can be supported per single
base station? Ive heard some pretty chilling reports from someone that
had themin production. He may not have known what to do with them however.
chris
Subject: [WISPA] FWD New low cost
options from
Mmmm they sold the company to Motorola?
...ducking...
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Come on... they are lowering prices? Atlas will be $100 for cpe?
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Whooa - - I got a phone
Have they produced a product that can pass 1Gbps full-duplex with a -92
signal in a NLOS environment?
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Go to the web site, $149 CPE.
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Have they produced a product that can pass 1Gbps
Saw that, cool. Need more details like the form factor? Antenna included ?
To what type of AP will it talk to ? regual 5830's or new Atlas AP's ?
Got to love atheros chips.
Gino A. Villarini,
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Trango Introduces New $149 WISP Subscriber Unit
Lowest priced fixed wireless modem available
SAN DIEGO, CA January 18, 2006 - Trango Broadband Wireless,
the leader in fixed broadband wireless equipment, introduced a major
addition to its product line which will enable Wireless Internet
So who is going to beta test these bad boys? I already took my turn with the
link 10's and T900's
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lol
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So who is going to beta test these bad boys? I already took my turn with the
link 10's
I did with the Atlas PTP
Gino A. Villarini,
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Never used Trango before but is that 10mbps full-duplex using both
polarizations of the antennas?
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I did with
I would also like to see more details. If it is anything like a
multi-point version of their existing Atlas then it could be an
interesting product. Having a connectorized 5.8Ghz multi-point AP at the
Trango price point is certainly needed in the market. I only hope they
drop the shitty RP-SMA
Well MAC.Did we find the right news? Or is there more???
Mac Dearman wrote:
Whooa - - I got a phone call yesterday from Trango that made me smile
all over!
Guys and Gals - - - -- hang on as we are about to enter the Twilight
Zone!!
Trango has some news that is gonna make all of
Hope that affects the price of everything else, at this point who would
by an 802.11a cpe for $250 when you can buy a trango for $150?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
114 S. Walnut St.
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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Well - I cant comment on the 900 either, but I know that their are some
changes in the works there as well.
That release didnt tell you all of it, but by summer you will be able
to upgrade the Atlas fox units (and APs) to do OFDM! WOW MOM!!!
(free too)
Look out Motorpoota - - I see a
Polarities only get used individually, one or the other, software selectable
on the fly.
Trango radios are all Half Duplex on the RF. Ethernet ports (wired) are
Full Duplex.
(Note: Full duplex Ethernet Wired port does make a big difference in
performance when getting flooded with small
The beauty is one CPE radio that will talk to both
the 5830AP and OFDM Atlas PTMP AP.
Atlas AP, wont be till next quarter, from what I
understand.
The new 900SU, also inexpensive, is shipping Beta
this week, so its just around the corner.
Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed
I agree. Can't see putting an N connector on the side of a Fox sized
unit. ;)
Travis
Microserv
Tom DeReggi wrote:
drop the shitty RP-SMA connector in favor of something more robust
like N.
Required for FCC reuirement of unique connector rule. PErsonally Ip
refer them to stay as is
Mac,
Did I miss something? Todd has been at Trango for less than a year. Z
is the top man. Z is who made this happen, starting 5 years ago with a
product called Sunstream. :)
Travis
Microserv
Mac Dearman wrote:
Why (slamming head on desk) would you continue with Motorola when them
dirty
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Required for FCC reuirement of unique connector rule. PErsonally Ip
refer them to stay as is with the connectors. That way they all stay
the same and one cable to stock.
There are other connectors more robust than RP-SMA; it doesn't have to
be N. RP-SMA is just too small
That's almost enough to interest me.
does anyone know if these support an external antenna?
That reflector is super-ugly, and without it, they don't go far enough for
me.
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:
That information is on Trango's
website... The 900 system's been talked about quite a
bit...
I don't think anyone's revealing
anything.
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence
to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at
neofast dot netFast
Not the $150 CPE the 900mhz beta product, etc.
Some of us have known about the new 900mhz CPE for 6 months... but were
asked to not share the information with the public. ;)
Travis
Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
What are you
talking about they have it
posted all
Yeah, well, Waverider's been stringing us along for
a while with promises of
"superfantasticamazingthroughputdistancepowerreliabilityandperformance" too.
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence
to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at
I think Travis was referring to the new900
product and Atlas AP, which time tables have not been publically released.
He'sright, I should keep my mouth shut until Trango releases info first on
their time table. Sorry, Trango. Itsjust hard tokeep quiet about good news.
Tom DeReggiRapidDSL
The Reflector is one negative trait regarding Trango. When the Internal
short range, and external long range foxes were two different unit, it was
disappointing that the Fox only had a reflector option compared to the
5830ext. However, my opinion on that has all changed now that its just one
I'm not sure if everyone really truly realizes what has just happened.
It took an hour or two for it to really sink in, I think I must have been in
shock.
Last year when Betas were send out, they asked, how many we wanted to buy,
before they shipped.
This year, they just sent them, and I
Tom,
I agree with you 100%. However, there is still much to do the 5.8ghz
product was only the first step... we are currently deploying 60-70 of
the 2.4ghz product per month... mainly because of the totally amazing
distance (15-20 miles is a no brainer... 25-30 miles is possible with a
Yep. 900 is what I need.
5.8.ya right.
2.4sometimes.
900...hits the spot.
Travis Johnson wrote:
Tom,
I agree with you 100%. However, there is still much to do the
5.8ghz product was only the first step... we are currently deploying
60-70 of the 2.4ghz product per month...
Yeah, I wondered why. Now I know.
No way could they support a distributor model at these prices...
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!
We have been installing Linksys / Dlink / Belkin routers at every
install for almost 4 years. Customers get an "internal" wireless, we
help protect them by having a firewall, and we then have a device we
can monitor (with ping) to check their connection.
Travis
Microserv
Mark Koskenmaki
I am probably far more cynical than most but I really hope that Trango has
made a turn around as a company with the latest round of changes.
I tend to remember the bad things more than the good.
WARNING this is a list of the BAD things!! Good things are at the bottom...
I remember purchasing
Before I came to the WISP world, I had 13 years as a technician that had
customer contact and often did technical support over the phone.
I often was the guy across the counter when the customer was happy...and
when he was not.
I never cease to be amazed at stories of businesses with people on
What are you using now? What are you trying to accomplish? The first 3
you list are all 802.11a/b/g the last 3 are all proprietary. There are
people on this list for every different system you just described, not
sure how many people have used them all. I have used StarOS, Mikrotik,
and Motorola
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