RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik Bridging w-Nstreme

2006-02-09 Thread G.Villarini
Turn off connection tracking under firewall Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 1:30 AM To:

RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik Bridging w-Nstreme

2006-02-09 Thread danlist
I am not seeing results like this at all, I am using nstream on several PTP links w/ SR5 cards w/ great success, (polling on) - throughput is awesome and I have replaced all of my karlnet backhaul links (well not replaced but turned the karlnet links into backup links), I believe mikrotik is

Re: [WISPA] BPSK QAM16 DSSS interference

2006-02-09 Thread Travis Johnson
If you are using 2.9.12, there should be a choice where it says 5ghz and 5ghz Turbo there should be a choice that says 5ghz 5mhz and 5ghz 10mhz. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: How do you change channel width? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

[WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
We proposed a spectrum analysis for a client. This analysis was to be performed with a hand-held spectrum analyzer at the height that the equipment was to be mounted. Our offer was rejected. However, we were asked to provide the climber for the other party's analysis. Their analysis was

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread G.Villarini
What redline antenna was used? A sector a panel ? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:07

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Gino, It was Redline's 2' panel. - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Villarini Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!) What redline antenna was

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread G.Villarini
140 are 15 db loss plus 2 for the connectors.. the effective gain on the antenna would be 11 db ... run your calcs Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
www.timesmicrowave.com Go to the online calculator and figure up the losses on your cable. Be sure to set the freq at 5800 mhz. I'd not even count the connectors as loss, they are usually in the .1 to .5 range. But for a survey adding 1dB of loss per connector is safe. As I read this

Re: [WISPA]Farmers Wanting full Farm Coverage

2006-02-09 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA]Farmers Wanting full Farm Coverage Why not use the same essid on all your towers? That works for me. It'll cause

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread JohnnyO
There was no noise detected b/c there was no signal going into the SPEC-AN ! - This sounds like something you would do Cliff - sure this guy wasn't related to you ? JohnnyO On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 10:07 -0600, Cliff Leboeuf wrote: We proposed a spectrum analysis for a client. This analysis

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
I knew that I PAID my dues for a reason.! :) I wasnt treated this way before. I guess I get what I paid forIs there a money-back policy? - Cliff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:49 PM To: WISPA General

[WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz Radio cards and settings.

2006-02-09 Thread Blair Davis
Hey all: I'm getting some odd results here with a PtP 5.8GHz link using MikroTik that I setup to test with. Let me describe the setup... The link is 7.9 miles with clear LoS and clear Frenel zone. Each end has a 27db grid with a 3ft LMR-400 jumper to the MikroTik radio. Using the link

RE: [WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz Radio cards and settings.

2006-02-09 Thread danlist
What pigtails and connectors? Mmcx on the SR5 or u.fl? are these new SR5's or older sr'5s? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Blair Davis
With 140 ft of LMR-400 at 5.8GHz, the loss is about 15db.  With a good antenna topside, you might get some usable results, but not good ones For the RG6, I can't find any loss specs for freq. above 900MHz.  At 900MHz, the loss is about 10db for 140 ft.  Extrapolating that to 5.8GHz, I

RE: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Brian Webster
Cliff, Are you sure the first 140' was RG6? I think that is 75 ohm cable so that may be a problem, if it was something else it still might have too much loss at 5.8 GHz to get any signal to the SA. You may be on to something with the adapters, if they were just using good quality N-Type

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz Radio cards and settings.

2006-02-09 Thread Julius Igugu
Upgrade to 2.9.12. It has better wireless performance. Chech the mikrotik forums. - Original Message - From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz Radio cards and settings.

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz Radio cards and settings.

2006-02-09 Thread Blair Davis
I was/am aware of the mmcx issue and all tests were done with the same u.fl pigtails on each end.  When the radio cards were changed, the same u.fl pigtails were used.  Only the radio cards were changed. They were the older SR5 cards with the mmcx problem.  (proven by testing!!)  The mmcx

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz Radio cards and settings.

2006-02-09 Thread Blair Davis
Thank you. Performance is not the issue here. The issue is predicted signal strength vs measured signal strength. The link works and works well. Thruput and latency are well within expected ranges. I am just getting numbers that don't make sense. Like the high power SR5 cards having a

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz Radio cards and settings.

2006-02-09 Thread Scott Reed
Seems to me there are posts that the MT setting values do not equate to dB.  Maybe on P15's MT maillist. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Blair Davis

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz Radio cards and settings.

2006-02-09 Thread Blair Davis
That makes sense as an explanation for the CM9 issue. Thanks... Doesn't explain the low output on the SR5 cards Scott Reed wrote: Seems to me there are posts that the MT setting values do not equate to dB. Maybe on P15's MT maillist. Scott Reed Owner NewWays

RE: [WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz Radio cards and settings.

2006-02-09 Thread Paul Hendry
If it help, we got SR5s as soon as they where available. When I put them in a real world environment on a StarOS/WRAP set-up I saw no increase in signal quality on either end. Put the CM9s back in and still no change. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz Radio cards and settings.

2006-02-09 Thread danlist
when they new improved Sr5 (the ones w/ the updated MMCXs) I noticed a few changes in the way mikrotik behaves with them, I also seem about a 6dbm improvement in those links as well Dan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent:

RE: [WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz Radio cards and settings.

2006-02-09 Thread danlist
Under advanced status the OLDER (the original sr5 cards) report 15dbm TX Power, while the new cards report 19dbm TX Power Also the CHIP INFO under General is different between the original sr5 cards and the newer SR5 cards (eeprom info) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread George
Another thought is maybe it was alvarion gear or some thing similar that uses a frequency converter at the antenna. I think they get fed with a small cable. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Tom DeReggi
Redline itself, does not have spectrum analasys capability, from what I understood. Generally Redline user can use it to see if their radio can work well on a channel, by looking for loss, and what channel worksbest. but the fact that the Redline smashes through 5.8G fine does not mean that

Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)

2006-02-09 Thread Tom DeReggi
 Agreed if that is what they did, send RF straight up.. However if the cable going up the tower was a redline cable between indoor and outdoor unit, its not straight RF signal going up the tower, it s the redline signal between the two compnents. Depends what they were doing. Tom

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik 5.8GHz Radio cards and settings.

2006-02-09 Thread Tom DeReggi
What exactly is the old mmcx problem? I had some original batch Range2's (or is that range 3s, the 2,4Ghz G ones)that were giving me sparatic performance at a site, used with RfLink Amps, and the mmcx port. Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -

RE: [WISPA] Good news and bad news today

2006-02-09 Thread Rudy Worrell
Mac, I like the million WISP idea. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good news and bad news today I have complete confidence in our