Re: [WISPA] 900MHz Systems

2006-02-20 Thread ccooper
I bought my last round of Waverider cpe w/ antenna for $340 ea. chris Quoting Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Has anyone else brought out an inexpensive 900MHz CPE besides Motorola? I keep hoping Trango will as I wish to deploy a 900MHz system in a new area. But $500+ CPE costs will not

RE: [WISPA] 900MHz Systems

2006-02-20 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
What QTY is that pricing at? 100 Pack? Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Morin Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900MHz Systems I

[WISPA] 900MHz performance (Latency, Throughput)

2006-02-20 Thread Dylan Bouterse
We are in the beginning stages of evaluating 900MHz for our wireless portfolio. Im very interested to hear about implemented systems and what kind of max throughput and latency is expected. Any help is greatly appreciated. Dylan Bouterse . Sr. System Engineer ___

RE: [WISPA] 900MHz Systems

2006-02-20 Thread Chadd Thompson
FYI the moto price is for the light version of client, Limited to 512K throughput. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:10 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900MHz Systems What

Re: [WISPA] 900MHz Systems

2006-02-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
He's got a big company, leases and most likely gets volume. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How did you get your trango 900mhz so cheap? My price on the web is still listed at $475.. I would be deploying more at $340 Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com http://www.wbisp.com

Re: [WISPA] 900MHz performance (Latency, Throughput)

2006-02-20 Thread Pete Davis
The 900Mhz pricing has always been higher than 2.4ghz 802.11x on price. Probably always will be. What 900mhz buys you is NLOS performance. 900mhz links will cut through trees that 802.11b only dreams about. I am not sure how well the new Ubiquiti cards running 802.11 on them will do with NLOS.

RE: [WISPA] Lightning Protection

2006-02-20 Thread chris cooper
So does this mean that cabling and equipment should be grounded to same source? I understand grounding the cable prior to entry. Does grounding my cable to one ground and then using the shelter power, which is on a different ground, set up a potential on the equipment? Maybe disconnect the

RE: [WISPA] 900MHz performance (Latency, Throughput)

2006-02-20 Thread chris cooper
I wouldn't bank on the 1.5 Mb per client unless you want to dedicate a ccu to them. We have found the 1.5 claim virtually impossible to sustain. It makes the business model unsound as well. chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete

[WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator

2006-02-20 Thread Jason Wallace
Friends, Does anyone know of a good isolator for cat5? I want to really protect my network from a tower mounted radio. Jason -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] 900MHz performance (Latency, Throughput)

2006-02-20 Thread Blair Davis
That is what we do. Get one client in a subdivision with a good link to our TurboCell or Netstream backbone and then put up a 802.11B Mesh ap for local (up to 3Mile) service... Works ok, but I'd like to get to some 900MHz stuff that works for some subdivisions that are so tree infested that I

[WISPA] New Board Instated and official call for open board position applicants

2006-02-20 Thread Rick Harnish
On Thursday, February 16, 2006, the Founding Board of WISPA officially accepted the results of the recent Board election. The new Board begins immediately and will consist of the following members. John ScrivnerMount Vernon Net Matt LarsenInventive Media Marlon ShaferOdessa

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Not sure about the logo, my guess is, no. Has to be the whole wispa logo, not just part of it. I know Bob (if it's the same Bob Smith), he's a good guy. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12

RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator

2006-02-20 Thread Frank
For this, I've normally used an Ethernet fiber converter. Cat5 - Fiber on the tower and Fiber - Cat5 down below. These are standard 10/100 megabit Ethernet converters readily available from networking supply houses. Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment:

Re: [WISPA] 900MHz performance (Latency, Throughput)

2006-02-20 Thread Pete Davis
Agreed. 1534k to the client is something I have yet to see on Waverider. Setting the GOS (Grade of service) to 1024k and setting the queue in Mikrotik to 512k seems to work reasonably well. YMMV. pd chris cooper wrote: I wouldn't bank on the 1.5 Mb per client unless you want to dedicate a

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I understand the problem. Pony up the $250 bucks or whatever and help us get some spectrum. The FCC only listens if we have $$, so pony it up! Join TODAY! KyWiFi LLC wrote: We aren't using the WISPA logo cause we aren't members of WISPA. The tower image was actually designed by a local

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Blair Davis
Our logo is similar as well www.wmwisp.net When was wispa formed? KyWiFi LLC wrote: We aren't using the WISPA logo cause we aren't members of WISPA. The tower image was actually designed by a local vinyl/sign shop, I think they got it from a clip art CD, not sure. It does resemble the

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
80 years ago! roflol Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread KyWiFi LLC
I just joined the WISPA list this past week to see what it's all about. I don't know much about WISPA at this point so that's why I'm here. Is there a page somewhere on the WISPA web site that lists all members? I would be interested in seeing who are members. We are a member of KYISPA (Kentucky

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread George
Well Shannon, WELCOME ABOARD! This list is made up of some of the best people you would want to collaborate with. George KyWiFi LLC wrote: I just joined the WISPA list this past week to see what it's all about. I don't know much about WISPA at this point so that's why I'm here. Is there a

RE: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Rick Harnish
Shannon, You can go to http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless and login with your email and password to view the current membership of the wireless@wispa.org listserv. Let me know privately if you forgot your password. Currently the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list is private to all

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Carl A Jeptha
Ask Marlon, how put up a tower on the cheap. Nothing like a wheel rim and Muffler Pipe. But today he may claim it wasn't him, because he now wears suits to work. But we have witnesses. :-D Don't ask, don't think, join. It is people like Marlon and the other cohorts and other fools like me

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Membership

2006-02-20 Thread Peter R.
A. Principal Member. A Principal Member is a person or business that operates a wireless information service as defined in Section 1.2. Principal Members may have other types of business interests and still meet the criteria to be a Principal Member. Annual Payment of Dues: $250 Semi- Annual

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread JohnnyO
Wow - Thank you George - I've never been more flattered ! ! ! ! ! JohnnyO On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 11:10 -0800, George wrote: Well Shannon, WELCOME ABOARD! This list is made up of some of the best people you would want to collaborate with. George KyWiFi LLC wrote: I just joined the

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread George
Oh, except for Johnny O. :) Hah just kidding, Johnny O is our wild wispa guy. Any time you have problems with someone, contact him and he'll help you straighten them out. George JohnnyO wrote: Wow - Thank you George - I've never been more flattered ! ! ! ! ! JohnnyO On Mon, 2006-02-20

Re: [WISPA] 900MHz Systems

2006-02-20 Thread Travis Johnson
We buy 250 at a time. ;) Travis Microserv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How did you get your trango 900mhz so cheap? My price on the web is still listed at $475.. I would be deploying more at $340   Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-846-6798  ext

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Carl A Jeptha
oh, just for a moment I thought you made a mistake. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha George wrote: Oh, except for Johnny O. :) Hah just kidding, Johnny O is our wild wispa guy. Any time you

Re: [WISPA] 900MHz performance (Latency, Throughput)

2006-02-20 Thread Dan Petermann
I have gotten just under 3Mb/s down and 400Kb up on a Canopy system at short range (5 miles or so). I don't do very many installs anymore so I can't give you an idea of latency. Not sure if thruput drops significantly on longer ranges or if latency increases either.On Feb 20, 2006, at 8:17 AM,

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Boy do we have witnesses. Heck, I've helped him put up a site before :) North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot netFast Internet, NO

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
 Well, now... There's always a mushy apple in the bunch... hahahahah What are YOU doing working on this holiday? :) North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot netFast Internet, NO

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread JohnnyO
Well we have a contest for our customers each month - The 1st customers to get their payments in after invoices have been mailed receive a chance for their stubs to go into a hopper to receive 50% off of their next months service Sooo I was goign to head to the post office today to do

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Hiya Carl! You really need to stop telling those awful lies about me! As you can clearly see, we have nothing but the best these days! http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/images/45deg.htm http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/new_office/index.htm

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
roflol You should see the latest one! No pics though. I'll have to find them and get 'em posted. Looks like we're gonna do a MAN for a casino complex. I'm looking forward to having a budget to work with for a change! BTW, all you jokers teasing me about my network. It's up to 6000 square

Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Hiya Toots! That last joke you sent me want funny! I'd have beaten the biker dude! LOL Anyhow, which show you should go to really depends on what you want to do. If I had my way I'd go to ALL of them. They ALL have something to offer if you're willing to listen and learn. I just got

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
You're going to have to tell me where this is, so I can find it next time I come up that way... North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot netFast Internet, NO

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-20 Thread Travis Johnson
I think the REAL question would be, how many "coax" antennas are in your network? :) Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: roflol You should see the latest one! No pics though. I'll have to find them and get 'em posted. Looks like we're gonna do a MAN

RE: [WISPA] 900MHz performance (Latency, Throughput)

2006-02-20 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message old news =) that was covered at the last WiNOG http://www.winog.com/park-city_2005/sessions/day2_900mhz_bakeoff.htm another place to check is http://www.wispreviews.com (the login script is broken, but if you fiddle around with it, you should be able to get in) -Charles

RE: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-20 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message Hi Linda, This is what Steve Stroh has to say about WiNOG, WISPCON, Broadband Wireless World, WiMAXWorld WiNOG is well-positioned to serve a segment of the Broadband Wireless industry that has gone unnoticed and unserved. PART-15.ORGs WISPCON focuses on smaller and

RE: [WISPA] 900MHz performance (Latency, Throughput)

2006-02-20 Thread Dylan Bouterse
Title: Message Are there any notes from the session? The winog website doesnt show anything. Also, you mention the login script is broken on wispreviews.com but I cant even browse the forms as a guest. Dylan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

[WISPA] used Pac Wireless antennas for sale

2006-02-20 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I have 10 pac wireless PA24-19 19db flat panels (2.4GHz) that were recently replaced with different gear. These client end antennas are all working and any reasonable offer will be accepted. I paid $50 each for these things brand new. So there is $500 worth of stuff here. Anyone interested

Re: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-20 Thread Linda Pond
Thanks, Marlon. That does help. Looking forward to reconnecting soon. Linda Linda PondPresidentCustomer Connects"Bridging Technology Relationships"www.customerconnects.com613-253-0240 (w)613-291-2884 (c)BLOG: http://lindaleepond.blogspot.com/ - Original Message - From:

Re: [WISPA] used Pac Wireless antennas for sale

2006-02-20 Thread JohnnyO
Any of them have added ventilation holes from bullets ? JohnnyO On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 00:13 -0800, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I have 10 pac wireless PA24-19 19db flat panels (2.4GHz) that were recently replaced with different gear. These client end antennas are all working and any

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator

2006-02-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
But then you need AC up the tower right? Or how do you do it? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: RE: