Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-21 Thread Carl A Jeptha
See Inline, Sorry for the late response, have become a "person of influence" in the community so was a regular Monday meeting. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

[WISPA] Wimax/portable wimax story on wired.com

2006-02-21 Thread Pete Davis
http://www.wired.com/news/columns/1,70241-0.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Use of WISPA logo

2006-02-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
Marlon, I was wondering wondering what the heck to do with all our DSSS dishes needed to be stored. Looks like the ceiling rack is the way to go! Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hiya Carl!

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator

2006-02-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
Rick, Sweet! You did a heck of a clean job on that cabnet. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:26 AM Subject:

[WISPA] Article: Building a WISP

2006-02-21 Thread Peter R.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Building-a-Wireless-ISP-NetworkThe-Opportunityid=145737 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] 900MHz performance (Latency, Throughput)

2006-02-21 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message Are there any notes from the session? The winog website doesnt show anything. it's one of those things where you "kinda have to be there" Also, you mention the login script is broken on wispreviews.com but I cant even browse the forms as a guest. Here's the problem Due

RE: [WISPA] 900MHz performance (Latency, Throughput)

2006-02-21 Thread Charles Wu
FWIW -- wispreviews is just a little blogging site to help people in the industry out We used PhpBB b/c it was easy to setup and fairliy intuitive (for not so computer savy people like me) Do you have any better suggestions? -Charles P.S. -- if it'd help the list, I can still access the

RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - OFFLIST

2006-02-21 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message Hi Linda, This is offlist, since I don't want to spam the listserv with Unsolicited Commercial Email The next event is scheduled for March 13-15, 2006 -- check our website: www.winog.com for a full list of exhibitors / speaking sessions / etc btw -- we're still working

Re: [WISPA] Wispcon? - OFFLIST

2006-02-21 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Title: Message When this happens, I always feel better... At least I know other people aren't perfect, too :) North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot netFast Internet, NO

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator

2006-02-21 Thread Tom DeReggi
What are you using to hold those radio circuit boards in place? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 11:03 AM

RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - OFFLIST

2006-02-21 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message doh =( Someone once told me, if you don't know what you're doing, just act extremely confident, and people will assume that what you're doing is correct -Charles ---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com

RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - OFFLIST

2006-02-21 Thread Victoria Proffer
Title: Message Hey Charles, Checking out the conference but not finding location details. Where is it being held in Austin? Thanks! Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadBand.com 314-974-5600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles WuSent: Tuesday, February

RE: [WISPA] Wispcon?

2006-02-21 Thread Victoria
Title: Message Hey Linda, How are you doing? Been awhile. Unfortunately I have not been to a conference in ages. Had a big legal battle going on with my ex-partner and lost my network for almost two years. Have it back now and really busy rebuilding it

Re: [WISPA] 900MHz performance (Latency, Throughput)

2006-02-21 Thread Matt Liotta
Charles Wu wrote: Do you have any better suggestions? What are your requirements? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] Wispcon? - OFFLIST

2006-02-21 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message Hi Victoria, It is being held at the Hilton Austin Airport -- which incidentally happens to be a Southwest Airlines destination http://www.winog.com/austin_2006/hotel.htm We've set up free airport transportation to/and from the hotel -- and a killer hotel room rate of $99

RE: [WISPA] 900MHz performance (Latency, Throughput)

2006-02-21 Thread Charles Wu
Well...look at http://www.wispreviews.com It's basically a blog site where WISPs post reviews of the gear they've used (expeiences, 2 thumbs up, stuff sucks, etc) In an idea world, I'd like something like DSL Reports -- where you could even rate it and stuff -- but being a free site, we don't

[WISPA] Photo Cell power

2006-02-21 Thread chris cooper
Does anyone know where I can lay my hands on some street light photocell to POE power adapters? Thanks, Chris Cooper Intelliwave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

RE: [WISPA] Photo Cell power

2006-02-21 Thread Brian Webster
I think DefactoWireless has some, thought I saw something like that when I looked at their site a while back. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com Free World Dialup #481416 -Original Message- From: chris cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

[WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Rick Harnish
This is a notice that the FCC Form 477 is due March 1st. The link below is for the FCC Website concerning this report. http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/data.html Also one of the FAQs concerning WISPs 8. Are Wireless Internet Service Providers (WISPs) exempt? No. Entities that provide

RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Rick Harnish
I believe I heard a stat that 475 WISPs filled them out last time. Pretty poor showing in my opinion with some sources saying there are approximately 6000 WISPs in the US. You do what you want. As for me, Im going to stay legal. If the FCC monitors this listserv, who do you think they will

[WISPA] Hospitality Antennas

2006-02-21 Thread Jeff Sullivan
Group, What type of omni does everyone like for Hotel installs? A guy that I am attempting to work with is very insistant on using 12dbi omnis. I myself lean more toward the 7dbi range for a much more balloonish pattern. What is the consensus? Jeff -- WISPA Wireless List:

RE: [WISPA] Ethernet Opto Isolator

2006-02-21 Thread Rick Harnish
Hehe, you tell me what you want to accomplish and we can build them for you. Just don't be to shortsided, think to the future. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[WISPA] Senior Prank

2006-02-21 Thread Victoria
Title: Message LOL! Seniors were caught bungee jumping off of one of our towers today, according to CNN News... :-) Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadBand.com 314-974-5600 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations

2006-02-21 Thread Blair Davis
I have an 8 mile link with CM9 cards (17db) and 27db grids. This link has clear LoS. I get -62 sig strength at each end YMMV Kurt Fankhauser wrote: How much range can I expect to get with a 802.11a setup with 13db radio’s and 24db panel antennas? The reason I am asking is because I am

Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations

2006-02-21 Thread Carl A Jeptha
8km link tr5a-24f - tr5a-nf (16db 60* sector) gives me -80 rssi - speed 24mbps 13km link tr5a-24f - tr5a-nf (16db 60* sector) gives me -82 rssi - speed 24mbps 16km link tr5a-24f - tr5a-nf (16db 60* sector) gives me -93 rssi - speed 6mbps Oh, the 24f was in the car, because it was cold on that

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Dawn
Kurt, With all due respect I would like to ask that you not post suggestions that are blatantly against FCC regulations. In both of your messages I included below it appears you are advocating the complete disregarding of FCC regulations. I like to think of the WISPA list as a professional

RE: [WISPA] Senior Prank

2006-02-21 Thread Victoria Proffer
Saw it on CNN, but here is the local link: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/78 D05A9F3FAE81C28625711C007B1828?OpenDocument The UClub is 26 stories and we have two Rohn 25 G up there. My daughter has always talked about bungee jumping it...jeeze! It is

Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations

2006-02-21 Thread JohnnyO
Hey Kurt - Fix your date / time ! ! ! ! On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 18:45 -0800, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: How much range can I expect to get with a 802.11a setup with 13db radios and 24db panel antennas? The reason I am asking is because I am thinking about using a pair of Tranzeo TR-5a-24f for

Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations

2006-02-21 Thread Bob Moldashel
Kurt Fankhauser wrote: How much range can I expect to get with a 802.11a setup with 13db radio’s and 24db panel antennas? The reason I am asking is because I am thinking about using a pair of Tranzeo TR-5a-24f for a 5 mile link but I am skeptical about the low power. Kurt Fankhauser

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Bob Moldashel
OK...OK. I agree that all should probably file. I have several partners so I am not the only one to decide so I will leave it at that as it pertains to my WISP entity. BUT...What is the penalty for not filing Does anyone know??? Can we get an official statement for this

RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Chuck
How can they send a nasty gram if they do not know who we are??? The last few years only 50 or so have filed out of the 7-8000 WIPS out in wireless land...hummm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Tuesday, February 21,

RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Chuck
WIPS hummm ? this is the new business I am in...I'm sure glad I know how to spell. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 6:04 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Frank Muto
http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.pdf 20. Are there penalties for not filing Form 477? Entities that are required to file Form 477 but fail to do so may be subject to the enforcement provisions of the Communications Act and any other applicable law. In particular, the

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Bob Moldashel
Hey Scott, By no means am I attempting to dig this up again but there are 2 trains of thought that have been brought out on this list. One is to file and let the Commission know they exist and the other is to fly under the radar. Some say letting the FCC (and others) know they exist could

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Scott Reed
Yeah, I know and I could probably argue either side to a degree.  I just tend to believe that following the rules ends up being the better choice.  But I am realistic and know that until I have money I will not have a big a voice as some of the others. Good question about the school. 

[WISPA] Good Evening Folks

2006-02-21 Thread Roger Boggs
Bored to tears in a hotel room outside of Richmond, VA so I thought I'd jump onto this list and see who's here and what we're talking about lately. Haven't been doing much outdoor wireless stuff for more than a year now.. All indoor - mostly in hospitals and warehouses in support of RFID

RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Rick Harnish
Quick Google search for Sections 502 and 503 of the Communication Act returned this result. http://www.telecomattorneys.com/analysis.html You all might want to read it. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell

RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Dawwwn, Please point out where I said I don't file. Once you do that I will listen to what you have to say. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn

RE: [WISPA] Good Evening Folks

2006-02-21 Thread Rick Harnish
Welcome Roger! Sounds like a much warmer environment than what some of us work in during the winter. Your welcome to stay around for awhile. We welcome your experienced input. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP

[WISPA] Fw: Tech support funny

2006-02-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
roflol One of my tech support gals sent this to me today. That must have been a funny phone call! marlon - Original Message - From: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 To: Marlon Schafer Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Tech support funny Hi Marlon, While helping a new

RE: [WISPA] Good Evening Folks

2006-02-21 Thread Roger Boggs
This time of year, I don't miss standing around on rooftops one bit... I'll probably be the one doing all the knowledge absorption nowadays.. Thanks Rick. Thought I'd see a few names I hadn't seen/heard in a while over here... At 10:54 PM 2/21/2006, you wrote: Welcome Roger! Sounds like

RE: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Rick Harnish
I think this clause of the Communications Act might be used for unlicensed spectrum violations. If the violator is neither a broadcast station licensee or permittee, cable television operator, or applicant for any broadcast or cable television operator license, permit, certificate or other

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Rick Smith
just fill the damn thing out and start making the system WORK FOR US. Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Someone needs to start an online poll in which we can go on and anonymously vote on weather we fill this form out or not. Does the FCC say how many of these forms are being turned in? Kurt

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
It was 400 wisps last I heard. You HAVE to fill it out. Doesn't do anything for you to not fill it out anyway. On this note. I spent quite a bit of time on the phone with the 477 folks today (we're working with them on a solution for those that don't have excel). It turns out it's not

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Checking now. thanks marlon - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st OK...OK.

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st Hey Scott, By no means am I attempting to dig this up again but there are 2 trains of

Re: [WISPA] Good Evening Folks

2006-02-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
dude! We're working on getting people to fill out the fcc forms. We're hunting for new spectrum (current fight is for unused tv spectrum). Today I checked on the 5.4 band. It's to the spell check the certification docs phase. We're very close on that one! Also checked on 3650 and tv white

Re: [WISPA] Good Evening Folks

2006-02-21 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Wow, I had actually forgotten this name... I can't beleive I've hung around this bunch long enough for famous folks to vanish into near obscurity :) Hope we entertain ya :) North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to:

Re: [WISPA] Good Evening Folks

2006-02-21 Thread Carl A Jeptha
I called him Dad back then, do I now call him, Granddad??? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Mark Koskenmaki wrote: Wow, I had actually forgotten this name... I can't beleive I've

Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations

2006-02-21 Thread KyWiFi LLC
Blair, Where are you seeing the -62 reported? StarOS? Mikrotik? According to my calcs, your link below is a perfect link. The link calculator I use estimates your loss at each side to be 2dBm. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky

RE: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations

2006-02-21 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Well I have a perfect 2 mile shot and according to the calcs should be running between -50 and -60 but the tranzeo unit is reporting -73, is there any evidence to suggest that tranzeo's don't report signal levels accurately? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820

Re: [WISPA] 5.8ghz low power distance limitations

2006-02-21 Thread Blair Davis
My exact hardware config at each end is as follows: RouterBoard 230 CM9 radio card 8 u.fl to N-female pigtail (hand selected by me) 5' LMR-400 jumper (hand made by me) Hyperlink 27db grid Software is Mikrotik 2.9.11. Netstream mode with polling on. 5825MHz Mikrotik bandwidth speed test