Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers

2006-02-23 Thread Pete Davis
Yeah. I bought a $45 pair of Ideal brand crimpers, and it was definitely money well spent. I am familiar with those ratcheting ones, too. They are nice. The $15 that come free with a box of cable sometimes are what we WERE using, but we were having to redo ends more often than not. It was rare

Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers

2006-02-23 Thread Jeff Sullivan
I agree, this is the set that I have been using for 8 years now. Has interchangable dies for rj-11 and rj-45. Probably made 1000+ ends with no bad crimps and still a nice working tool, no slop. Altho, they cost $125, I would use none other.

[WISPA] technology event

2006-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/confpage/060307.htm For anyone that's interested. It would be great to see some wireless folks at this. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services

Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-23 Thread Mario Pommier
If I understand correctly, any WISP with less than 250 customers in a given state does not need to file. The reporting threshold for broadband reporting is facilities-based firms that provide at least 250 one-way or two-way broadband (in excess of 200 kilobits per second) service lines or

Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-23 Thread Mario Pommier
hmm, seems like I was reding the old form from Year 2,000. Mario Pommier wrote: If I understand correctly, any WISP with less than 250 customers in a given state does not need to file. The reporting threshold for broadband reporting is facilities-based firms that provide at least

Re: [WISPA] Solectek Skyway 7000

2006-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Hiya Matt, I used to sell Solectek gear. Years ago. It was a good company with good gear as I recall. If you are up and running and have a good reputation in your market it never hurts to try new toys. These days most of the gear I'm buying for links like that comes from Airaya. It's

RE: [WISPA] Solectek Skyway 7000

2006-02-23 Thread danlist
Whats the deal n the airaya stuff? Are they making the 5.3 stuff? What are the specs? Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-846-6798 ext 6201 [EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Righto. It's now 1 subscriber not 250. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From:

Re: Fw: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Due March 1st

2006-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I don't remember if it was this list or isp-wireless that talked about this a bit more specifically. In a nutshell, the fine for not filling it out is up to $10,000 as I read it. Again, however, the biggest reason for us to fill this out is political. They need to know that when someone

Re: [WISPA] Good Evening Folks

2006-02-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
Its always good to hear a chime in from one of the original early guys in the game, now and then. Lots of stuff happening here in WISP land. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Roger Boggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA

[WISPA] Should we work to change some FCC rules? was--Fw: Latest WISP FCC visit

2006-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Hi All, I was just going through some old stuff on my puter and bumped into this post from Tom. Buried in there is a rehash of the idea of a real FCC recognized professional installer. Is WISPA in a position to push for this? Can we come up with a certification program? Can we take on

[WISPA] Have a referal for service in S.C.

2006-02-23 Thread Victoria Proffer
Anyone cover Orangeburg, S.C.? Hit me offlist. Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadBand.com 314-974-5600 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

RE: [WISPA] Solectek Skyway 7000

2006-02-23 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message Have you looked at Airaya's web site? It's pretty informative: http://www.airaya.com/products/p2m.asp -Charles ---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Solectek Skyway 7000

2006-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
OK, this gets a bit sticky for me I work on the side as a sales geek for electro-comm and therefore sell this gear. Apply appropriate grain of salt. *I* use this gear in my network because it's priced well and it works. They get away with such low pricing because it's using the Atheros

Re: [WISPA] Good Evening Folks

2006-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Yeah. Cheap tools always come to roost sooner or later. Usually sooner and at a very bad time! Grin Now if I could just find a good cable tester at $5. heheheheh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
First off, don't. Mesh is all the rage today. Just like hotspots were a couple of years ago. Mesh and muni are often rolled out in the same sentence. Show me ONE that's working correctly past the 6 to 12 month stage.. Having said that, you can still give them the same functionality.

[WISPA] Terms and Contracts

2006-02-23 Thread Jory Privett
I was just wondering how a small WISP goes about enforcing a contract? If someone cancels early what actions do I have available to enforce their contract? Any Ideas or suggestions? Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
I guess you'll have to learn more about Mesh because if you did you would not say that a dedicated backhaul and microcell approach gives the same functionality. Sure a dedicated backhaul and microcell are fine because that is what people have been building since forever. Mesh handles routing

Re: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts

2006-02-23 Thread JohnnyO
Is this a residential customer ? Is it worth the bad advertising on your part to pursue it ? What were their reasons for cancelling ? We don't even have a contract in place any longer. We have a TOS and an acceptable use policy in place but no need to waste our time with the extra paperwork

RE: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts

2006-02-23 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Jory, To me, it depends on a few things... 1. Do you have a written contract that has a term commitment and the cancellation fees clearly stated? 2. If you do, is it amount worth pursuing for collections based on the risk, money and time you will spend? 3. If you do

RE: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread chris cooper
The primary challenge from my experience is LOS issues on the link side. You can solve this by deploying more nodes or more injection points according to design and budget. The new 900 Mhz cards look interesting to link those few out of the way nodes. chris -Original Message- From:

RE: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts

2006-02-23 Thread chris cooper
We usually compile them and send em to an attorney that sends out 1 nastygram form letter. We get some $$ back that way. I have always functioned under the assumption that folks who don't pay their bills etc. aren't too likely to bring it up in public. Since we are all bound to have some amount

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Mario Pommier
Lonnie, when will your radios support mesh, as described in your previous post? M Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: I guess you'll have to learn more about Mesh because if you did you would not say that a dedicated backhaul and microcell approach gives the same functionality. Sure a dedicated

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
I am not disputing that at all. What I was saying that mesh is a routing mechanism and as such is used on the backhaul and microcell to tie them together. As such it is far superior to a backhaul and microcell approach without mesh routing. That is all I was trying to say. Lonnie On 2/23/06,

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
We released the code yesterday as part of our v3 for the WAR boards. The beta part is mostly for the Atheros driver which continues to get tweaks and add-ons. We have been testing and playing with mesh since Fall 2005. We felt it was ready for prime time. Lonnie On 2/23/06, Mario Pommier

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
No the problem with Mesh is it adds many hops to the path, therefore adding significant latency, and inability to control QOS, or identify where the QOS lies. Self interference is impossible to avoid without killing every other in town at the same time. routing... Well that brings nother

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Matt Liotta
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: First off, don't. Mesh is all the rage today. Just like hotspots were a couple of years ago. Mesh and muni are often rolled out in the same sentence. Show me ONE that's working correctly past the 6 to 12 month stage.. Come down and visit

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Matt Liotta
Tom DeReggi wrote: No the problem with Mesh is it adds many hops to the path, therefore adding significant latency, and inability to control QOS, or identify where the QOS lies. Self interference is impossible to avoid without killing every other in town at the same time. Mesh doesn't have

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Mario Pommier
good deal! do you have info on the tech specs of the system in the website? thanks. Mario Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: We released the code yesterday as part of our v3 for the WAR boards. The beta part is mostly for the Atheros driver which continues to get tweaks and add-ons. We have been

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Tom DeReggi wrote: No the problem with Mesh is it adds many hops to the path, therefore adding significant latency, and inability to control QOS, or identify where the QOS lies. Self interference is impossible to avoid without killing every other in town at the same time. QoS is easy with

RE: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts

2006-02-23 Thread JohnnyO
Hey Kurt - Fix your date and time - Several people have mentioned this already. Be a considerate list participant. JohnnyO On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 13:38 -0800, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Judge Judy Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com

Re: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts

2006-02-23 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
 We have a contract, and it serves a rather limited role. Since we have only one option that requires a time commitment and that one is short, our contract only serves the following purposes: Agreement on the customer's part not to abuse the network (and leaves the definition of abuse to

[WISPA] Canopy distributors

2006-02-23 Thread Matt Liotta
We continually find ourselves having to call around the country trying to find inventory. We'd prefer just to have a single distributor fulfill all our orders, but we expect the equipment to be stocked. It seems to me distributors don't provide any value if all they do is process orders and

[WISPA] Waverider Specs

2006-02-23 Thread chris cooper
We are testing a new WR cell. The target rssi generated by the design guide and real field tests show 10-12 db performance delta. Anyone care to weigh in on this? Is this reality- the difference between vendor spec and real world tests or should we look deeper for a problem? We've already

[WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- Some Observations

2006-02-23 Thread Charles Wu
Generally, we end up debating all day and all night on the lists of what's the best radio or who's got those cool blue lights -- however, FWIW, I've noticed that there seldom is any debate on useful topics like sales marketing (especially of the product positioning of license-exempt wireless) Do

[WISPA] Wisp In Killington VT?

2006-02-23 Thread G.Villarini
Hey folks, I up in Killington VT doing some skiying Who the wisp servicing the area with Trango stuff? Gino A. Villarini, Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aeronetpr.com 787.273.4143 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- Some Observations

2006-02-23 Thread Matt Liotta
We have observed the following: It is easier to explain wireless after the fact then to sell wireless itself. In other words, we sell a service that provides X amount of internet access and Y phone lines that we just happen to deliver wirelessly. Once a customer is sold on the value of the

Re: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- SomeObservations

2006-02-23 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Quote: IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN JUST TECHNOLOGY... yes, it is. More to the point, it's about meeting your customer's needs or wants. Not shoving things at them they don't need or want, but genuinely discovering what it is that sparks them to buy in the first place. I desperately need a

RE: [WISPA] Wisp In Killington VT?

2006-02-23 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message East Coast Snow =( Go Rockies -- east coast is WAY too icy -Charles ---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- SomeObservations

2006-02-23 Thread Matt Liotta
Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of service, but needs to be affordable for me to do. Still, nobody's offering this kind of service, that I can find. Either it is sold as raw products (requiring me to

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
No, but I posted a link to the manuals on the Support Forums. We use OLSR and you can get the manuals, etc yourself. http://www.olsr.org/ What specs do you need? This auto routes and is not limited to 2 layer like OSPF. Lonnie On 2/23/06, Mario Pommier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good deal!

Re: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- SomeObservations

2006-02-23 Thread warped.terranova.net
they want their cake and eat it too.. exactly. Either run your own Asterisk server with PSTN gateway or figure out how to sell on margins and stop whining. Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I'd rather just bundle a VOIP service in a higher level tier (let's move from 38 / mo to 55 or 60/mo ) of

[WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Victoria
A Canadian University recently banned Wi-Fi due to unproven health risks. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/22/canada_uni_wifi_ban/ Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadBand.com 314-974-5600 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

RE: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Bobby Jacqmin
So I would guess that all the companies that have in house labs for beta testing are all goners. They are always trying to find a way to keep the wireless broadband business down. I would like to see a proven case study on the size of the brain tumor does it get larger with 2.4 or 5.8.

RE: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
...or, with cordless phones, wireless RF remote controls, lightening storms, nearby radio towers for fire, police, sheriff, Royal Mounties, etc. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bobby Jacqmin Sent: Thursday, February 23,

Re: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services --SomeObservations

2006-02-23 Thread Matt Liotta
VoIP is the future and while it is currently profitable, I don't think it will be long-term. I expect long-term telephone service as we know it will be free. In the mean time, VoIP sells data better than almost anything else. -Matt Mark Koskenmaki wrote: If that's the case, then VOIP has

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Jack Unger
Prudent Avoidance (playing it safe) ??? Owww, owww stop hitting me :) Take care Victoria (long-time, no see - I was glad to hear that you're doing OK). Best wishes, jack Victoria wrote: A Canadian University recently banned Wi-Fi due to unproven health risks.

RE: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Victoria
I have been wondering about that thing growing on the side of my head, or it is just the bumps that I have gotten since I have been into wireless? Nice to see you too Jack. Climb any mountains lately? :-) Victoria -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I'll take a tumor and wireless over no tumor and no wireless. Victoria wrote: I have been wondering about that thing growing on the side of my head, or it is just the bumps that I have gotten since I have been into wireless? Nice to see you too Jack. Climb any mountains lately? :-)

Re: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services --SomeObservations

2006-02-23 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
I don't understand your point about selling on margins. I was merely asking for a wholesale product that was priced less than RETAIL. Nothing more, nothing less. I have yet to figure out how it is all the wholesale products are currently anywhere between 10 and 100% more than the current retail

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
Not going to allow it until proven safe. Can we assume that all illegitemate drug use has been stopped? Underage alcohol consumption doesn't exist? Binge drinking has been halted? No unsafe sex occurs on campus or by students? No students speed, or drive unsafely? What a concept... Nothing

Re: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts

2006-02-23 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
FYI Kurt, your computer appears to be set at the wrong time and date. Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Judge Judy Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff

Re: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services --SomeObservations

2006-02-23 Thread warped.terranova.net
What makes you think there's any margin selling retail? Figure out what you're doing or accept what's handed to you. Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I don't understand your point about selling on margins. I was merely asking for a wholesale product that was priced less than RETAIL. Nothing more,

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Roger Boggs
The thing growing on the side of V''s head is caused by overuse of the cellular phone. Sue the cellular phone company. Everyone else in the civilized world should bring a class action suit against all television and radio transmitting staions, police departments, airports, airlines, phone

Re: [WISPA] Good Evening Folks

2006-02-23 Thread Roger Boggs
Thanks Tom - and all others. Good to hear from all the old names/faces. I've learned more about copper cable crimpers here in the last two days than I have from any other wireLESS list I've been on in the last two years! :-) At 11:22 AM 2/23/2006, you wrote: Its always good to hear a

RE: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Yea...and another thing that causes death...Breathing! If you do it long enough, eventually you will die. I guess I should ban breathing too! :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Boggs Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:11 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Roger Boggs
Ooops!!! How could I forget this one... Must make all amateur radio operations illegal and lock them all up and confiscate all their equipment!!! Either that or start suing all the ham radio operators for the suspected damage they've done to us all, too At 10:11 PM 2/23/2006, you wrote:

RE: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Roger Boggs
You can breathe all you want to, as long as you don't get all that second hand carbon dioxide on me... And I just saw some of that CO2 pass by me a minute ago!! I'm gonna trap some of it in a bottle and if it matches the CO2 that came out of you, you're buzzard meat buddy Just like the

RE: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Roger, That wasn't CO2 that passes by you...It was methane! :-) Oops... - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Boggs Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and

RE: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Roger Boggs
You could have blamed it on the dog, and nobody would have known the difference, Cliff... At 10:29 PM 2/23/2006, you wrote: Roger, That wasn't CO2 that passes by you...It was methane! :-) Oops... - Cliff -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Bob Moldashel
Roger Boggs wrote: Ooops!!! How could I forget this one... Must make all amateur radio operations illegal and lock them all up and confiscate all their equipment!!! Either that or start suing all the ham radio operators for the suspected damage they've done to us all, too Don't get me

RE: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services --Some Observations

2006-02-23 Thread Charles Wu
snip Generally speaking, we have found the cost/time to sell a customer is the same no matter how large the service delivered is. In other words, it takes just as long to sell a DS3 as it does a T1 even though the DS3 is significantly more profitable. /snip Hi Matt, I would disagree with you

RE: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services --SomeObservations

2006-02-23 Thread Charles Wu
snip I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal, where I own the customer and do frontline support, it's my own brand (if I brand it) and I merely bulk buy minutes, numbers, and CPE.I can't sell my customers a 400 minute account that costs me 25 bucks a month. They can buy Packet8 for

RE: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services --SomeObservations

2006-02-23 Thread Charles Wu
snip Maybe you stumbled upon the fact that no one offers what you want because it isn't cost effective to do so. As much as we try to wholesale our VoIP offers to other WISPs, they want their cake and eat it too. Being an ISP or for that matter a VoIP provider requires either relying on

Re: [WISPA] Terms and Contracts

2006-02-23 Thread Peter R.
Jory Privett wrote: I was just wondering how a small WISP goes about enforcing a contract? If someone cancels early what actions do I have available to enforce their contract? Any Ideas or suggestions? Jory Privett WCCS Collections usually works, but negotiating with the end user should

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Roger Boggs
At 10:41 PM 2/23/2006, you wrote: Roger Boggs wrote: Ooops!!! How could I forget this one... Must make all amateur radio operations illegal and lock them all up and confiscate all their equipment!!! Either that or start suing all the ham radio operators for the suspected damage they've

[WISPA] DSL - NJ / PA Sprint / Verizon

2006-02-23 Thread Rick Smith
How does a WISP go about adding DSL resale to its list of services. I'd like to resell some DSL access to places we can't provide wireless. Need to deal with Sprint Local in Sussex / Warren Counties, VCerizon in Morris County, and Warwick Valley Telephone in upper Sussex County, NJ and

Re: [WISPA] VOIP

2006-02-23 Thread Peter R.
The margin in consumer VOIP is disappearing. The costs of the infrastructure including DIDs and 911 implementation have slammed the industry. Read Vonage's IPO to better understand the 911 liability and cost. In a couple of cases I have consulted on, the local CO was not accessible by any

Re: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services--SomeObservations

2006-02-23 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:46 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services--SomeObservations snip I desperately need a GOOD VOIP wholesale deal,

RE: [WISPA] Wi-Fi causes leukemia and brain tumors

2006-02-23 Thread Victoria Proffer
Hey Roger, No, it's my blue tooth oh... that's what you meant ;-) Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadBand.com 314-974-5600 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Boggs Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:11 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] VOIP

2006-02-23 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
I'm just looking to offer customers an alternative to the phone line. That is, I'd like to give them an excuse to drop the Qwest copper line, keep phone service, and give me the money instead. And for those who live outside any other broadband, I can make a package deal that puts them right in

Re: [WISPA] DSL - NJ / PA Sprint / Verizon

2006-02-23 Thread A. Huppenthal
contact the dsl loop provider. in some states, like CO, you need an ATM connection to the Qwest cloud, with specific ATM features - and then its pretty simple. you pay per loop, Qwest sends the ATM cells over to you on a specific virtual path (vpi,vci) -- you provide the IP services to the

Re: [WISPA] VOIP BOC?

2006-02-23 Thread A. Huppenthal
I wonder what we should start calling the new telcos. There are 3 international companies that control nearly all of telcom today. Verizon/MCI, SBC that bought Cingular/ATT, and Sprint/Nextel. They aren't Bell Operating Companies. They are really big, mostly unchecked mega-telcos. RBMTs.. :-)

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
MAtt, The Super cell gives the ISP better central control and simplicity. I don't believe an argument has been made to back up your above statement. Trie I did not offer any backup data. But use your immagination. Its all in one place, easy to check, easy to document, easy to configure,

Re: [WISPA] Mesh Equipment

2006-02-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
you jsut gotta pick your software well. OK. What do you pick, and why? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006

Re: [WISPA] Sales Marketing of Unlicensed Wireless Services -- SomeObservations

2006-02-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
. In addition, a Network Operator's valuation is a direct multiple of its ARPU. Wrong. Thats old school. Evaluation is a direct multiple of the ARPU that the buyer can acheive because they bought your netowrk. Consider their new ability to gain revenue at a quicker rate, based on the unique

Re: [WISPA] VOIP

2006-02-23 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Here is the part that really sucks I have an asterisk box setup, and five customers beta testing voip on my network. It works fine. Those five customers have used a grand total of 1003 minutes so far this month. My cost for termination minutes is .02 per minute, with a $5/month charge